Official 2025 Offseason Thread

[basketballRob]

Point guard: Suggs
Combo guard: AB
Shooting guard: Bane
Swingman: NAW
Small forward: Franz
Combo forward: TDS
Power forward: Paolo
Combo big: JI
Quick center: WCJ
Power center: Goga

Green goblins: CoJo/Jett/Houstan/draft/draft

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Veto! Try again. Moe!!!!!

Moe might not be a factor next season.

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[Skybox]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

[Knightro]

When can we extend Paolo?

Immediately. Now.

It won’t be official until July 1.

[RichCollab]

Point guard: Suggs
Combo guard: AB
Shooting guard: Bane
Swingman: NAW
Small forward: Franz
Combo forward: TDS
Power forward: Paolo
Combo big: JI
Quick center: WCJ
Power center: Goga

Green goblins: CoJo/Jett/Houstan/draft/draft

I really like this

Veto! Try again. Moe!!!!!

Moe might not be a factor next season.

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Redact your statement.

[CarraT]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I’ll take NAW over Schröder every day of the week.
And a player like Monk is not available for MLE.

[Knightro]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I get what you’re saying.

I think it would depend rather heavily on how much guys like Tyus and Tre Jones and Schroeder and Brogdon and even D. Russell and Westbrook are looking like they’re going to get in free agency.

If any of those guys ends up being a veteran minimum guy, then the Magic could do both

[Skybox]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I’ll take NAW over Schröder every day of the week.
And a player like Monk is not available for MLE.

Geez…read it again but slower, I’m talking about “types” and redundancy not those specific guys so much.

NAW > Schroder in a vacuum, so is KCP…not the point I was making. We have AB, why duplicate him while we still lack scoring pop from a reserve guard.

[RichCollab]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I get what you’re saying.

I think it would depend rather heavily on how much guys like Tyus and Tre Jones and Schroeder and Brogdon and even D. Russell and Westbrook are looking like they’re going to get in free agency.

If any of those guys ends up being a veteran minimum guy, then the Magic could do both

Ok. You add both NAW and Tyus. They aren’t signing unless guaranteed minutes.

What’s your rotation look like?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I get what you’re saying.

I think it would depend rather heavily on how much guys like Tyus and Tre Jones and Schroeder and Brogdon and even D. Russell and Westbrook are looking like they’re going to get in free agency.

If any of those guys ends up being a veteran minimum guy, then the Magic could do both

Ok. You add both NAW and Tyus. They aren’t signing unless guaranteed minutes.

What’s your rotation look like?

Dump Jett with 2 2nd or something


Bane/Tyus
Suggs/Black
Franz/NAW/Houstan
Paolo/ Isaac/25
WCJ/Goga/Moe W

1 vet min and leave 15th spot open. No way Tyus signs another 1 year deal though and I’m not sure the above doesn’t put us over 1st apron. Just a spitball

[Redick07]

I get what you’re saying.

I think it would depend rather heavily on how much guys like Tyus and Tre Jones and Schroeder and Brogdon and even D. Russell and Westbrook are looking like they’re going to get in free agency.

If any of those guys ends up being a veteran minimum guy, then the Magic could do both

Ok. You add both NAW and Tyus. They aren’t signing unless guaranteed minutes.

What’s your rotation look like?

Dump Jett with 2 2nd or something


Bane/Tyus
Suggs/Black
Franz/NAW/Houstan
Paolo/ Isaac/25
WCJ/Goga/Moe W

1 vet min and leave 15th spot open. No way Tyus signs another 1 year deal though and I’m not sure the above doesn’t put us over 1st apron. Just a spitball

Where is Tristan da Silva?
I would like to put NAW at SG, TDS at SF

[CarraT]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I’ll take NAW over Schröder every day of the week.
And a player like Monk is not available for MLE.

Geez…read it again but slower, I’m talking about “types” and redundancy not those specific guys so much.

NAW > Schroder in a vacuum, so is KCP…not the point I was making. We have AB, why duplicate him while we still lack scoring pop from a reserve guard.

But we’re talking specifically about FA. So the pool of available players is kind of small. No need to talk about „types“, you can name the players you want to sign.

Plus: Benefit of signing NAW is IMO to package AB with another Big for Center upgrade trade.

[RichCollab]

I get what you’re saying.

I think it would depend rather heavily on how much guys like Tyus and Tre Jones and Schroeder and Brogdon and even D. Russell and Westbrook are looking like they’re going to get in free agency.

If any of those guys ends up being a veteran minimum guy, then the Magic could do both

Ok. You add both NAW and Tyus. They aren’t signing unless guaranteed minutes.

What’s your rotation look like?

Dump Jett with 2 2nd or something


Bane/Tyus
Suggs/Black
Franz/NAW/Houstan
Paolo/ Isaac/25
WCJ/Goga/Moe W

1 vet min and leave 15th spot open. No way Tyus signs another 1 year deal though and I’m not sure the above doesn’t put us over 1st apron. Just a spitball

2nd unit is 4 defensive players.

[eyriq]

I really like NAW as a player, but i question the value of him as a target for the MLE…he might be an even better KCP at a lower salary, but I don’t think that profile is a worthy priority for that chunk of salary. I’d much rather draft a guy like Drake Powell or Sion James with a srp and hope they can contribute- at least on the defensive end, in the same way. NAW’s offensive contributions are nice, but not really substantial…just like KCP…good player, good fit, happy to have him, BUT if I only have one swing at a FA acquisition, I still need more offense & playmaking as a priority for our thin bench…I’m not sure who is the best target, but someone more in the playing style\skillset of Monk, Schroeder, Ivey…I suppose you could make the argument that drafting Clayton might do that, but I’m reluctant to believe a rookie will contribute offensively as quickly.

Not to mention that we have AB, who is very similar to NAW, already on board.

I’ll take NAW over Schröder every day of the week.
And a player like Monk is not available for MLE.

Geez…read it again but slower, I’m talking about “types” and redundancy not those specific guys so much.

NAW > Schroder in a vacuum, so is KCP…not the point I was making. We have AB, why duplicate him while we still lack scoring pop from a reserve guard.

AB doesn’t duplicate NAW. Let’s avoid the loop and just go to the ultimate expert: NBA 2K.

Anthony Black
Position: PG/SG
Archetype: Defensive Menace

NAW
Position: SG/SF
Archetype: Two-Way Three-Level Shot Creator

Their strengths complement each other. Defensively, they’d form a versatile, disruptive backcourt. Offensively, NAW brings self-creation at all three levels with a smoother jumper and better shot profile. AB, on the other hand, is a downhill playmaker. More pick-and-roll, drive-and-kick, connector-type.

AB sets the table. NAW finishes the meal.

And to be clear, AB is already the better player. Don’t get it twisted.

[RichCollab]

Adding NAW and Tyus

Guards

Bane
Suggs
AB
NAW
Tyus
Jett

Vs

Suggs
KCP
AB
Cole
Harris
CoJo
Jett

[Knightro]

One thing Mosley needs to do this upcoming season is not play 5 bench players at once.

With Paolo, Franz and Bane here, you should be able to have one very capable scorer on the floor at all times.

That’s how you mitigate the lack of bench scoring in my opinion.

[eyriq]

One thing Mosley needs to do this upcoming season is not play 5 bench players at once.

With Paolo, Franz and Bane here, you should be able to have one very capable scorer on the floor at all times.

That’s how you mitigate the lack of bench scoring in my opinion.

Under-discussed point here. We are top heavy and will likely see rotations managed accordingly.

[RichCollab]

Adding NAW and Tyus

Guards

Bane
Suggs
AB
NAW
Tyus
Jett

Vs

Suggs
KCP
AB
Cole
Harris
CoJo
Jett

I want TDS and AB both to get a ton of minutes. I could see NAW/AB getting minutes at the SF and TDS some at the PF.

Pacers and OKC each had 1 drafted in AB’s draft player. Sheppard and Wallace.

I’m not sure we can depend on TDS and AB both in the playoffs this upcoming season.

[CarraT]

AB, on the other hand, is a downhill playmaker. More pick-and-roll, drive-and-kick, connector-type.

AB generates 0.68 PPP as PnR Ballhandler, he is in the 16th percentile. It´s amazing how bad he is here

Edith: Thats by far worst on the team, even worse than Jett

[AdamTheGreek]

Did people not watch last season? We lost Paolo and we still stayed afloat. Hell we even lost Franz and played better than I thought possible it wasn’t until Suggs went down that the wheels fell off. We win because of our defense and he is the single most important piece to that. People really believe he won’t get better? He was terrible shooting then worked on that like a maniac and started shooting 40%. This guy eat sleeps and breathes basketball lol. Just look at who he is dating. I would not place any bet against him.

We stayed afloat in December with Suggs, Mo, Tristan, Goga, AB, Caleb, Queen, 1-2 WCJ games, and 1-2 Cole games.
And then Mo went down and we finally burned out 1-2 weeks later in early January.

What happened that 1-2 weeks later? Suggs went down 6 games after Mo. Yea I get it but I am sorry there is a complete lack of respect for Suggs here in that equation. I love Mo and when he went down it definitely played a big role to the wheels coming off. It was both together that finally sunk us. Jalen played 10 more minutes a game than Mo and was the anchor to our defense. I don’t want to downplay either loss because they were both critical.

There’s no Suggs disrespect of his game.

My concerns with him are purely injury related.

If this team doesn’t succeed, it’s likely because Jalen can’t stay on the floor.

[eyriq]

AB, on the other hand, is a downhill playmaker. More pick-and-roll, drive-and-kick, connector-type.

AB generates 0.68 PPP as PnR Ballhandler, he is in the 16th percentile. It´s amazing how bad he is here

Edith: Thats by far worst on the team, even worse than Jett

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