Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition)

Post #1201 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:47 pm

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

"90%"

AshBlackstone · Post #1202 » by **AshBlackstone** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:47 pm

I understand that some of you love Bynum. But a deal that brings us Bynum doesn't bring us cap space.

I believe a total rebuild is necessary, and will take that over Bynum.

I think people think Bynum is better than he really is, because there are no good centers in the league. He's not even the 20/10 guy you're claiming that he is. He averaged a career high 18.7 ppg this season.

Did we forget that he has bad knees, or that he clotheslined a Barea? Or how about his general crappy attitude, or the fact that he's having issues with current head coach...to the point that he was benched because he was chucking up 3s when he can't even shoot 3s.

I'll take the cap space, the Toronto lottery pick, and our own high lottery pick over a guy who reminds me of the basketball version of Terrell Owens.

ADRajX · Post #1203 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:47 pm

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports

Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

woosah · Post #1204 » by **woosah** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:48 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:I think the only reason people like this proposed trade is because it is better than the Nets' offer. That doesn't make it a good trade.

Seriously

Henny: Here's a stinking pile of crap for your dinner..

Us: Ewww.....

Henny: OK, well how about this old leather shoe?

Us: Mmmm, not so bad compared to the pu pu platter.....

BUT IT'S STILL A FLIPPIN' SHOE!

Driguez · Post #1205 » by **Driguez** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:48 pm

DJRajX wrote:
Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports

Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

Another guy I'm glad I unfollowed.

Post #1206 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:48 pm

and the safety net...

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Lakers, however, waiting to pounce if Brooklyn trade really falls apart. But all sings point to Magic accommodating Howard's BK request

cvMagic · Post #1207 » by **cvMagic** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:48 pm

cvMagic wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:Agreed.
the top 2 centers in the game exchange hands and the magic get...
Picks.
With the miracle hope that one of them pans out to become...
a top 2 center in the game.
Uh...

I'm grabbing a drink.

Your GM wants picks, your GM is making it clear you're going to rebuild, Bynum DOES NOT want to re-sign with the Magic.

Beggars can't be choosers & that's being ungrateful if you two think that deal is anywhere near bad given the circumstances.

Hahahahaha.
Nice to know you were the only person in America invited to a one on one interview with Henny. Thanks for your insider info.

Now please, move along and go enjoy your 25 million dollar past his prime Shooting guard.

woosah · Post #1208 » by **woosah** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:49 pm

DJRajX wrote:
Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports

Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

dude will have to delete his twitter if Dwight doesn't go to Brooklyn. He will get trolled SO hard.

ADRajX · Post #1209 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:49 pm

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports

Lakers, however, waiting to pounce if Brooklyn trade really falls apart. But all sings point to Magic accommodating Howard's BK request

MoMM · Post #1210 » by **MoMM** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:49 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:My point still stands, I'd prefer a proven 20/10 NBA center to a projected European player.

If it's a 20/10 center (i think Bynum is capable of more than 20/10) without injury issues i would agree, but Bynum is a major risk ala Grant Hill. Imagine if we re-sign him to a 5 years deal at MAX and he injuries in 1st season? We would have no picks, no young players and no capspace.

YosemiteSam · Post #1211 » by **YosemiteSam** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:50 pm

JBreezeNY wrote:Your GM wants picks, your GM is making it clear you're going to rebuild, Bynum DOES NOT want to re-sign with the Magic.

Why do people keep saying this? Did I miss something? How does "Bynum interested in Cleveland and Dallas if a free agent" morph into people saying "Bynum does not want to sign with the Magic"?

Let me guess, SOURCES

Post #1212 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:50 pm

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Howard's people are hopeful that the Brooklyn trade will happen.

Let it be known, where he gets his info from.

BelgianMagic · Post #1213 » by **BelgianMagic** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:50 pm

JBreezeNY wrote:Your GM wants picks, your GM is making it clear you're going to rebuild, Bynum DOES NOT want to re-sign with the Magic.

Beggars can't be choosers & that's being ungrateful if you two think that deal is anywhere near bad given the circumstances.

Again, there was ONE report of Bynum not wanting to re-sign and that was a report by Ric Bucher. During yesterday's Magic game they said that was absolutely not true ..

ADRajX · Post #1214 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:51 pm

Ric Bucher ‏@RicBucher
Re: earlier tweet about GMs saying Cavs are a difficult trade partner. Wasn't a criticism/compliment. Simply sharing other GMs' view.

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Howard's people are hopeful that the Brooklyn trade will happen.

Post #1215 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:51 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

"90%"

There's no way to "simplify" the deal. The Magic would need to take a lot of salary-cap crap from the Nets or take Humphries. There's no way to simplify it beyond that, and there's no "trying" to figure out the Humphries part. The Magic either take him or not.

rcklsscognition · Post #1216 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:51 pm

At least Rudolph letting us know where he's getting all his stuff...

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Howard's people are hopeful that the Brooklyn trade will happen.

AshBlackstone · Post #1217 » by **AshBlackstone** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:52 pm

MoMM wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:My point still stands, I'd prefer a proven 20/10 NBA center to a projected European player.

If it's a 20/10 center (i think Bynum is capable of more than 20/10) without injury issues i would agree, but Bynum is a major risk ala Grant Hill. Imagine if we re-sign him to a 5 years deal at MAX and he injuries in 1st season? We would have no picks, no young players and no capspace.

Yep. Who wants to relive that nightmare? No thanks.

Bynum is a headcase, and injury prone.

I'll take any deal involving Houston that has us picking twice in the top 10 next year, creates cap space for a big free agent run in the near future, and sends him to the West.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1218 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:52 pm

DJRajX wrote:
Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports

Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

I honestly want him to just shut up! No way the Brooklyn deal gets done over a trade with LA or Houston

Post #1219 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:53 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Magic and Nets trying to simplify the deal. Still hopeful that deal can be completed. Still focused on dealing Howard to Brooklyn, for now

"90%"

There's no way to "simplify" the deal. The Magic would need to take a lot of salary-cap crap from the Nets or take Humphries. There's no way to simplify it beyond that, and there's no "trying" to figure out the Humphries part. The Magic either take him or not.

Which is why I think this is Rob just talking to the Nets to keep Fegan happy.

No way the Magic take back Humphries and Lopez on long-term deals.

JBreezeNY · Post #1220 » by **JBreezeNY** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:53 pm

YosemiteSam wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Your GM wants picks, your GM is making it clear you're going to rebuild, Bynum DOES NOT want to re-sign with the Magic.

Why do people keep saying this? Did I miss something? How does "Bynum interested in Cleveland and Dallas if a free agent" morph into people saying "Bynum does not want to sign with the Magic"?

Let me guess, SOURCES

Bynum is reluctant to make a long-term commitment to Orlando, Wojnarowski notes.