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2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

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Who would you like to see the Magic draft ?

PG Marquis Teague
24
20%
PG/SG Tony Wroten
20
17%
SF Jeff Taylor
5
4%
PG Kendall Marshall
41
34%
SF Terrance Ross
3
3%
SF Quincy Miller
14
12%
PF Arnett Moultrie
4
3%
PF Andrew Nicholson
9
8%
 
Total votes: 120

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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ... 

Post#1341 » by msmoore66 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:21 am

bigmoe1952 wrote:Just for discussion sake, let's say Houston is able to secure a TOP 5 (2,3,4, OR 5) pick and they do make a trade with the Magic for Dwight (chill out some of you, this is hypothetical). If you are the Magic, who do you draft with that pick. If it's #4 or 5 I would like to see Lillard. If it happens, who would you like to see the Magic take with the pick?


Agreed, I have a huge man crush on Lillard and that would be about right position for him. Perhaps the only guy at the spot if still available that I would take is MKG.
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Post#1343 » by dsg2021 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:31 am

I'll play along too, I'd like to see others' predictions too and find out who is the realgm draft guru 8-)

Who I want us to draft #19: Quincy Miller
Who I think we will draft #19: Tony Wroten Jr

Who I want us to draft #49: Tyshawn Taylor
Who I think we will draft #49: Henry Sims


Call me happy with either one of Miller or Wroten but as the draft goes on live thru 1-18 and as GM Hennigan's thinking goes..
I'm calling that some of these good PF's will be off the board anyways to eliminate a hard(er) thinking debate. And I know the Magic worked out Wroten and someone even said he looked very good in ORL (I know Hennigan fired most of these workouts-arranging scouts but one scout remains who Hennigan must therefore respect and that ORL workout/info is clearly still there to supplement Hennigan's profile/big board).
For a little surprise twist, I also think GM Hennigan trade-buys a late #28 from OKC for Quincy Miller who has too much upside and would seem to be, with Wroten, Spurs-like late drafting. Hey, if we're predicting in a draft this deep, I might as well stretch my guess-work anyways. :lol:
So basically, I'm arrogant/confident and think Hennigan and me pick the same players haha. The difference is I see Hennigan going Wroten before Miller, unlike me, because he's gambling smarter and is looking at avg mock draft positions and that the Hawks might grab Wroten at 23 if not taken yet. If Im picking, I split the difference because Miller is a must at 19 to me, but I would buy/trade for 23 anyways to get Wroten by any means necessary, probably offering up 28, cash and a future second unprotected to be as enough for getting a deal done. I think Hennigan wanting a player developing coach will get these draft picks into Spurs-like draft steals, maybe Brian Shaw who won't use the triangle but a free(-er) offense type system.
For the 2nd round, Henry Sims is what Hennigan goes with at #49 because the rest of the huge upside players are gone, including Tyshawn Taylor (who'd Hennigan and me would both take if on the board still). Sims maybe doesn't make the cut, but if he does, then Duhon is waived for roster space.



**I'm going to be stretching reality here a little bit now... but... if Hennigan plays the draft up like crazy because its so deep and he loves players around the 30th pick, or he's just like POR/OKC in crazy draft trading, then I see Hennigan grabbing Tyshawn Taylor around ~28-44 as a back-up plan to Wroten gone or even as a damn-the-PG-glut-to-hell-anyways. Tyshawn Taylor looks amazing, doesn't seem to quite have Wroten's better NBA body and potential but both seem to be racing towards who gets more development help from their NBA team than one being a steal and one being a bust, they're both steals with help. They both seem to have Rondo-Lite qualities, but Wroten a little moreso. As for why I'd pick two PG's, I think we all know Duhon sucks as the main backup PG, and Jameer leaving might be out of Hennigan's hands too. The other possibility (that I'll SMH on if Hennigan drafts him because I almost put him in at 28) is Jeff Taylor though, who seems NBA ready, team first attitude and a CLee 2.0. And I'd get him over all of Tyshawn's upside if I was confident in Jameer staying since a Wroten/Jameer rotation seems golden.
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Post#1344 » by Deadcellz » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:40 am

bigmoe1952 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1239346-nba-rumors-dwight-howard-has-become-the-brett-favre-of-the-nba

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1239 ... oklyn-nets


really horrible articles, didn't like them one bit
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Post#1345 » by bigmoe1952 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:16 pm

Deadcellz wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1239346-nba-rumors-dwight-howard-has-become-the-brett-favre-of-the-nba

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1239 ... oklyn-nets


really horrible articles, didn't like them one bit


I am not wild about them either but they make good points.
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Post#1346 » by Deadcellz » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:22 pm

bigmoe1952 wrote:
Deadcellz wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1239346-nba-rumors-dwight-howard-has-become-the-brett-favre-of-the-nba

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1239 ... oklyn-nets


really horrible articles, didn't like them one bit


I am not wild about them either but they make good points.


Yeah i agree they do make a fair point in the other teams cap situation especially if deron goes to dallas or any other team for that matter, but teams can find ways of clearing if they know they have a shot at D12 next summer if Deron is elsewhere Nets are a no go area.
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Post#1347 » by AdamTheGreek » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:20 pm

1. Kendall Marshall
2. Marquis Teague
3. Moe Harkless
4. John Jenkins
5. Perry Jones III

That's my top 5. At least 2 of those guys will be available by the time we pick. Whoever is ranked the highest on that list and still available is who I see Rob drafting.

#49 I say we take Kris Joseph, but his stock is still rising. I want Papanikolaou, but I definitely see Portland and their many picks probably snagging him.
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Post#1348 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:59 pm

Who i want them to pick
#19 - Harkless, the mechanics on his jumper are solid and i think he'll improve in that area and the other things he brings will fall into place. Playing center at st john's because they lacked sized stunted his growth as a wing player but i think he has the ability to improve significantly.
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Post#1349 » by fendilim » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:56 pm

Sullinger*
Perry Jones**
Marshall
Teague


*- dont really care if we have Big Baby and Ryno in this position. This guy is a top 5 pick had it not been for the red-flag which I think is overblown.

**- his motor might be a question, but the fact that this kid, along with Jared, would have been a top 5 pick had they entered the draft last year, is already a steal at 19.
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Post#1350 » by SolidSnake008 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:20 pm

According to ESPN a reason that Perry Jones might be slipping is because of a knee issue....meniscus to be precise.....not a huge red flag but enough to cause a bit of concern.....http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/ ... ources-say
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Post#1351 » by Neon1 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:26 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:According to ESPN a reason that Perry Jones might be slipping is because of a knee issue....meniscus to be precise.....not a huge red flag but enough to cause a bit of concern.....http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/ ... ources-say


He jumped 38.5 inches on his vert with a "injured knee"? I'm not concerned.
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Post#1352 » by AdamTheGreek » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:20 pm

Knee problem isn't as bad as a back problem, but look at Brandon Roy and you can see why people are backing away from Perry.
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Post#1353 » by G-Heel » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:28 pm

bigmoe1952 wrote:Just for discussion sake, let's say Houston is able to secure a TOP 5 (2,3,4, OR 5) pick and they do make a trade with the Magic for Dwight (chill out some of you, this is hypothetical). If you are the Magic, who do you draft with that pick. If it's #4 or 5 I would like to see Lillard. If it happens, who would you like to see the Magic take with the pick?


I would take Drummond, but I'm very high on Lillard also. Lillard is the safer pick, he's going to be a real good player. I take Drummond because he have the potential to be great with his physical attributes.
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Post#1354 » by Cigamodnalro » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:14 pm

G-Heel wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:Just for discussion sake, let's say Houston is able to secure a TOP 5 (2,3,4, OR 5) pick and they do make a trade with the Magic for Dwight (chill out some of you, this is hypothetical). If you are the Magic, who do you draft with that pick. If it's #4 or 5 I would like to see Lillard. If it happens, who would you like to see the Magic take with the pick?


I would take Drummond, but I'm very high on Lillard also. Lillard is the safer pick, he's going to be a real good player. I take Drummond because he have the potential to be great with his physical attributes.

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Post#1355 » by Skin » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:45 pm

G-Heel wrote:
bigmoe1952 wrote:Just for discussion sake, let's say Houston is able to secure a TOP 5 (2,3,4, OR 5) pick and they do make a trade with the Magic for Dwight (chill out some of you, this is hypothetical). If you are the Magic, who do you draft with that pick. If it's #4 or 5 I would like to see Lillard. If it happens, who would you like to see the Magic take with the pick?


I would take Drummond, but I'm very high on Lillard also. Lillard is the safer pick, he's going to be a real good player. I take Drummond because he have the potential to be great with his physical attributes.

The same Drummond that shoots 20 somthing percent from the FT line? Lillard will be so much better it won't be funny.
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Post#1356 » by Truth24 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:50 pm

The draft is only a few hours away and I have a final top five list.

1. Perry Jones III, Baylor
2. Royce White, Iowa State
3. Quincy Miller, Baylor
4. Marquis Teague, Kentucky
5. Terrence Jones, Kentucky
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Post#1357 » by Dancing Raddish » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:11 pm

Pick the best available. That being said. JS
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Post#1358 » by Skin » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:11 pm

PerryJonesIII wrote:The draft is only a few hours away and I have a final top five list.

1. Perry Jones III, Baylor
2. Royce White, Iowa State
3. Quincy Miller, Baylor
4. Marquis Teague, Kentucky
5. Terrence Jones, Kentucky

Good luck. I hope we get someone off that list.
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Post#1359 » by Neon1 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:15 pm

AT #19

1. F Perry Jones III, Baylor
2 .F Royce White, Iowa State
3. SF Moe Harkless, St Johns (Quincy Miller if Moe is gone).
4. TRADE BACK
5. PG Tyshawn Taylor, Kansas OR G Tony Wroten, Washington.
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Post#1360 » by Nemesis21 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:19 pm

#19

1)PG Kendall Marshall
2)PG Marquis Teague
3)SF Moe Harkless
4)SF Quincy Miller
5)SF Jeff Taylor

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