Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

ADRajX · Post #1441 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:13 am

BelgianMagic wrote:Why would we be interested in Carlos Boozer?? He's got 3yr/47mil left on his contract after this season ..

I'd rather keep Hedo and his less-per-year & earlier-FA contract in that case ..

Really, If I'd hear the name Boozer in any talk, i'd instantly hang up the phone. Boozer is the exact opposite of whatever we want back in a trade. He's old + has an absolutely horrible contract, so that doesn't fit the description IMO

Deng/Noah & NO Boozer and I'd remotely start considering .. But Boozer? LOL

+1

WeAreVenom · Post #1442 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:15 am

BelgianMagic wrote:It also amazes me that nobody's talking about having to include Duhon too .. How can anyone still want this guy on a professional basketball team?

He can't even get the ball to mid-court anymore

SOmetimes I really question whether he belongs on an NBA team anymore.

Like, seriously, would any team benefit swapping for him?

ADRajX · Post #1443 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:15 am

magicman123 wrote:the bulls have garbage pieces, not worried about them

I'm a little bit worried, I'm worried Otis is going to get Martins drunk and pull off an unsupervised terrible trade (like with Chicago) with Martins inebriated. :lol:

arkknight1988 · Post #1444 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:17 am

our front office execs need to stay away from the booz until the deadline.

Post #1445 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:17 am

DJRajX wrote:
magicman123 wrote:the bulls have garbage pieces, not worried about them

I'm a little bit worried, I'm worried Otis is going to get Martins drunk and pull off an unsupervised terrible trade (like with Chicago) with Martins inebriated.

Strangely I'm scared that this may actually happen... :lol:

Damn I hate Otis a lot and I used to just stay quiet when the threads came up about firing him, he really pushed me completely to the edge after the Phoenix trade.

ADRajX · Post #1446 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:17 am

arkknight1988 wrote:our front office execs need to stay away from the booz until the deadline.

That's a great rule of thumb/advice :lol:

stay away from booze, and stay away from booz-er

Maverick1978 · Post #1447 » by **Maverick1978** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:18 am

Here's a list of players that need to be shipped out:

Jrich
Hedo
Jameer
Duhon
Big baby

By sending out these individuals we move in the right direction...

ADRajX · Post #1448 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:19 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
magicman123 wrote:the bulls have garbage pieces, not worried about them

I'm a little bit worried, I'm worried Otis is going to get Martins drunk and pull off an unsupervised terrible trade (like with Chicago) with Martins inebriated.

Strangely I'm scared that this may actually happen...

Damn I hate Otis a lot and I used to just stay quiet when the threads came up about firing him, he really pushed me completely to the edge after the Phoenix trade.

The Phoenix trade will always been his undoing.

Post #1449 » by **Bensational** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:19 am

i'd be happy if this team just moved Hedo and Jameer and gave up on the idea of them being an integral part of the success of this team.

Post #1450 » by **Bensational** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:20 am

Maverick1978 wrote:Here's a list of players that need to be shipped out:

Jrich
Hedo
Jameer
Duhon
Big baby

By sending out these individuals we move in the right direction...

exactly. at this point i'd hazard we could be better with a bit of addition by subtraction.

ADRajX · Post #1451 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:21 am

Bensational wrote:i'd be happy if this team just moved Hedo and Jameer and gave up on the idea of them being an integral part of the success of this team.

Do you think Portland would entertain a package of involving those two for Wallace?

Nolimit1211 · Post #1452 » by **Nolimit1211** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:23 am

Monta/D.Lee/Brown(Expiring) for Dwight/Baby/Duhon........

-Monta>Lopez
-We'd sell tickets while still tanking.
-Giving D12 right now to NJ wouldn't give us a good pick.
-We shed contracts
-Letting him walk doesn't guarantee us a stud in the draft.

GS > NJ

Maverick1978 · Post #1453 » by **Maverick1978** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:23 am

Bensational wrote:
Maverick1978 wrote:Here's a list of players that need to be shipped out:

Jrich
Hedo
Jameer
Duhon
Big baby

By sending out these individuals we move in the right direction...

exactly. at this point i'd hazard we could be better with a bit of addition by subtraction.

+1

EasternMagic · Post #1454 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:26 am

I'd rather trade Dwight to GS for David Lee, Monta, and picks

VeryStupidFan · Post #1455 » by **VeryStupidFan** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:26 am

Chicago fan.

Ken Berger is on crack. There is no way that he tweeted involves Boozer. Clearly, it would involve Noah.

As for the validity of any of it, just including Boozer makes it suspect. I think it's more drivel that's going to get people talking but doesn't really have any legs. The fact is that Chicago and Orlando only make good trading partners if 1) Dwight commits to Chicago (they should snap make the trade with a one-year commitment and probably without it, but they won't) and 2) Orlando can't get anything better from the teams trying to rent Dwight.

Getting Noah, Deng, Asik, and draft pick would clearly not be horrible but I find it difficult to believe the Magic couldn't find a better offer, although none of us can be certain how much leverage the Magic have in this situation because we don't know if Dwight is willing to comeback and the Magic, despite what they are saying, might know for sure that he won't. If he won't come back, and won't sign except with the three teams, Orlando is going to trade him and the package is going to be underwhelming for a player of his caliber.

BelgianMagic · Post #1456 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:27 am

If I were Otis (but I'm not, thank God) I'd call NY for Melo/Chandler .. Knicks are playing horrible so probably interested in that kind of trade + Dwight can finally be a "Big City"

EasternMagic · Post #1457 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:27 am

VeryStupidFan wrote:Chicago fan.

Ken Berger is on crack. There is no way that he tweeted involves Boozer. Clearly, it would involve Noah.

As for the validity of any of it, just including Boozer makes it suspect. I think it's more drivel that's going to get people talking but doesn't really have any legs. The fact is that Chicago and Orlando only make good trading partners if 1) Dwight commits to Chicago (they should snap make the trade with a one-year commitment and probably without it, but they won't) and 2) Orlando can't get anything better from the teams trying to rent Dwight.

Getting Noah, Deng, Asik, and draft pick would clearly not be horrible but I find it difficult to believe the Magic couldn't find a better offer, although none of us can be certain how much leverage the Magic have in this situation because we don't know if Dwight is willing to comeback and the Magic, despite what they are saying, might know for sure that he won't. If he won't come back, and won't sign except with the three teams, Orlando is going to trade him and the package is going to be underwhelming for a player of his caliber.

Pretty much agree with all of this. Well said

Post #1458 » by **ChosenSavior** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:28 am

EasternMagic wrote:
VeryStupidFan wrote:Chicago fan.

Ken Berger is on crack. There is no way that he tweeted involves Boozer. Clearly, it would involve Noah.

As for the validity of any of it, just including Boozer makes it suspect. I think it's more drivel that's going to get people talking but doesn't really have any legs. The fact is that Chicago and Orlando only make good trading partners if 1) Dwight commits to Chicago (they should snap make the trade with a one-year commitment and probably without it, but they won't) and 2) Orlando can't get anything better from the teams trying to rent Dwight.

Getting Noah, Deng, Asik, and draft pick would clearly not be horrible but I find it difficult to believe the Magic couldn't find a better offer, although none of us can be certain how much leverage the Magic have in this situation because we don't know if Dwight is willing to comeback and the Magic, despite what they are saying, might know for sure that he won't. If he won't come back, and won't sign except with the three teams, Orlando is going to trade him and the package is going to be underwhelming for a player of his caliber.

Pretty much agree with all of this. Well said

ADRajX · Post #1459 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:29 am

Nolimit1211 wrote:Monta/D.Lee/Brown(Expiring) for Dwight/Baby/Duhon........

-Monta>Lopez
-We'd sell tickets while still tanking.
-Giving D12 right now to NJ wouldn't give us a good pick.
-We shed contracts
-Letting him walk doesn't guarantee us a stud in the draft.

GS > NJ

amen... that package is better than NJ's for sure

ADRajX · Post #1460 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:29 am

EasternMagic wrote:
VeryStupidFan wrote:Chicago fan.

Ken Berger is on crack. There is no way that he tweeted involves Boozer. Clearly, it would involve Noah.

As for the validity of any of it, just including Boozer makes it suspect. I think it's more drivel that's going to get people talking but doesn't really have any legs. The fact is that Chicago and Orlando only make good trading partners if 1) Dwight commits to Chicago (they should snap make the trade with a one-year commitment and probably without it, but they won't) and 2) Orlando can't get anything better from the teams trying to rent Dwight.

Getting Noah, Deng, Asik, and draft pick would clearly not be horrible but I find it difficult to believe the Magic couldn't find a better offer, although none of us can be certain how much leverage the Magic have in this situation because we don't know if Dwight is willing to comeback and the Magic, despite what they are saying, might know for sure that he won't. If he won't come back, and won't sign except with the three teams, Orlando is going to trade him and the package is going to be underwhelming for a player of his caliber.

Pretty much agree with all of this. Well said