Official Spec Thread: I guess now's the time to blow this dumpster fire up and bask in the glow!

[drsd]

Boston gave up a FRP to get rid of Kemba’s contract.

SMH that was had actual fans here trying argue giving up actual assets to get Kemba.

Thank goodness that is over with!

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[RookieStar]

Boston gave up a FRP to get rid of Kemba’s contract.

SMH that was had actual fans here trying argue giving up actual assets to get Kemba.

Thank goodness that is over with!

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How much you wanna bet Kemba doesn't even play a single minute in OKC but is instead traded right away to .....

DAL for Porz? + picks
HOU for Wall? + picks

insert other bad contract here

[ogmagicfan]

Maybe the best chance to move Harris for a 1st rounder is like how the Thunder moved Horford.

Trade him for a player that a team wants to move on from, maybe with a year more on his contract than Harris.

We’re not going to be players for free agency until 2023 at the earliest, so this is the time to make those types of moves. The question then becomes what teams/players could we trade with for that kind of scenario?

Stockpiling picks/young talent will be advantageous when trading for stars also too, since not all stars contracts will match up to being free agents when we have space.

[MagicFan101]

Boston gave up a FRP to get rid of Kemba’s contract.

SMH that was had actual fans here trying argue giving up actual assets to get Kemba.

Thank goodness that is over with!

..

How much you wanna bet Kemba doesn't even play a single minute in OKC but is instead traded right away to .....

DAL for Porz? + picks
HOU for Wall? + picks

insert other bad contract here

I think most are already talking about that scenario.

The key for the timeline is Kemba’s health. He has issues and if teams aren’t satisfied they may want OKC to pay off more of that contract while he recovers before giving up anything.

[RookieStar]

Thank goodness that is over with!

..

How much you wanna bet Kemba doesn't even play a single minute in OKC but is instead traded right away to .....

DAL for Porz? + picks
HOU for Wall? + picks

insert other bad contract here

I think most are already talking about that scenario.

The key for the timeline is Kemba’s health. He has issues and if teams aren’t satisfied they may want OKC to pay off more of that contract while he recovers before giving up anything.

Well... good thing OKC has a gazillion picks for sweeteners then.

[basketballRob]

Nice to see Bamba staying in town and down by the arena today. I assume he was training. He's improved every season and this is his first summer not being injured.

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[MagicFan101]

How much you wanna bet Kemba doesn't even play a single minute in OKC but is instead traded right away to .....

DAL for Porz? + picks
HOU for Wall? + picks

insert other bad contract here

I think most are already talking about that scenario.

The key for the timeline is Kemba’s health. He has issues and if teams aren’t satisfied they may want OKC to pay off more of that contract while he recovers before giving up anything.

Well... good thing OKC has a gazillion picks for sweeteners then.

Your first post suggested OKC using him to get draft assets back … which is their clear strategy but unlikely given Kemba’s status.

Now you’re suggesting they will use their draft assets to get rid of him.

Which is it?

His knee is bad. He is going to need to show teams that knee is good to go before anyone makes a real trade for him given the $$ left on his deal. It’s that simple. So he either plays well early in OKC and gets moved at the deadline or he doesn’t and he gets moved as an expiring contract next year.

[RookieStar]

I think most are already talking about that scenario.

The key for the timeline is Kemba’s health. He has issues and if teams aren’t satisfied they may want OKC to pay off more of that contract while he recovers before giving up anything.

Well... good thing OKC has a gazillion picks for sweeteners then.

Your first post suggested OKC using him to get draft assets back … which is their clear strategy but unlikely given Kemba’s status.

Now you’re suggesting they will use their draft assets to get rid of him.

Which is it?

His knee is bad. He is going to need to show teams that knee is good to go before anyone makes a real trade for him given the $$ left on his deal. It’s that simple. So he either plays well early in OKC and gets moved at the deadline or he doesn’t and he gets moved as an expiring contract next year.

Let me be clear..

OKC would likely deal Kemba to DAL for Porzingis and likely a pick ( because OKC seems to like a lot of picks ). However, you did say that other parties might want OKC to pony up more for Kemba due to his many concerns so I replied and "implied" that if OKC really wants to trade Kemba with his "baggage" then good thing they have a lot of assets to use as sweeteners.

I only gave this scenario is because IF they do get rid of Kemba, it is because they finally have a plan/direction where they will go. I mean you just can't continue to stockpile GL talent and picks forever. Even the league would probably step in with that situation. So then, if OKC really wants say Kirstpas to pair with Shai... then they have the assets to do so IF they feel Kristaps is worth more than Kemba.

However, these are all hypothetical scenarios..

[tiderulz]

Well... good thing OKC has a gazillion picks for sweeteners then.

Your first post suggested OKC using him to get draft assets back … which is their clear strategy but unlikely given Kemba’s status.

Now you’re suggesting they will use their draft assets to get rid of him.

Which is it?

His knee is bad. He is going to need to show teams that knee is good to go before anyone makes a real trade for him given the $$ left on his deal. It’s that simple. So he either plays well early in OKC and gets moved at the deadline or he doesn’t and he gets moved as an expiring contract next year.

Let me be clear..

OKC would likely deal Kemba to DAL for Porzingis and likely a pick ( because OKC seems to like a lot of picks ). However, you did say that other parties might want OKC to pony up more for Kemba due to his many concerns so I replied and "implied" that if OKC really wants to trade Kemba with his "baggage" then good thing they have a lot of assets to use as sweeteners.

I only gave this scenario is because IF they do get rid of Kemba, it is because they finally have a plan/direction where they will go. I mean you just can't continue to stockpile GL talent and picks forever. Even the league would probably step in with that situation. So then, if OKC really wants say Kirstpas to pair with Shai... then they have the assets to do so IF they feel Kristaps is worth more than Kemba.

However, these are all hypothetical scenarios..

OKC would have to add a pick to Kemba (unless i read that wrong) Dallas would not be adding a pick to Porzingis for Kemba (which is how i read it)

[RookieStar]

Your first post suggested OKC using him to get draft assets back … which is their clear strategy but unlikely given Kemba’s status.

Now you’re suggesting they will use their draft assets to get rid of him.

Which is it?

His knee is bad. He is going to need to show teams that knee is good to go before anyone makes a real trade for him given the $$ left on his deal. It’s that simple. So he either plays well early in OKC and gets moved at the deadline or he doesn’t and he gets moved as an expiring contract next year.

Let me be clear..

OKC would likely deal Kemba to DAL for Porzingis and likely a pick ( because OKC seems to like a lot of picks ). However, you did say that other parties might want OKC to pony up more for Kemba due to his many concerns so I replied and "implied" that if OKC really wants to trade Kemba with his "baggage" then good thing they have a lot of assets to use as sweeteners.

I only gave this scenario is because IF they do get rid of Kemba, it is because they finally have a plan/direction where they will go. I mean you just can't continue to stockpile GL talent and picks forever. Even the league would probably step in with that situation. So then, if OKC really wants say Kirstpas to pair with Shai... then they have the assets to do so IF they feel Kristaps is worth more than Kemba.

However, these are all hypothetical scenarios..

OKC would have to add a pick to Kemba (unless i read that wrong) Dallas would not be adding a pick to Porzingis for Kemba (which is how i read it)

Well in an ideal world, you add a pick to the "lesser value" player. However, who that is between the two is kinda subjective.

But if history is to be a judge, okc would aleays want a pick. lol

[tiderulz]

Let me be clear..

OKC would likely deal Kemba to DAL for Porzingis and likely a pick ( because OKC seems to like a lot of picks ). However, you did say that other parties might want OKC to pony up more for Kemba due to his many concerns so I replied and "implied" that if OKC really wants to trade Kemba with his "baggage" then good thing they have a lot of assets to use as sweeteners.

I only gave this scenario is because IF they do get rid of Kemba, it is because they finally have a plan/direction where they will go. I mean you just can't continue to stockpile GL talent and picks forever. Even the league would probably step in with that situation. So then, if OKC really wants say Kirstpas to pair with Shai... then they have the assets to do so IF they feel Kristaps is worth more than Kemba.

However, these are all hypothetical scenarios..

OKC would have to add a pick to Kemba (unless i read that wrong) Dallas would not be adding a pick to Porzingis for Kemba (which is how i read it)

Well in an ideal world, you add a pick to the "lesser value" player. However, who that is between the two is kinda subjective.

But if history is to be a judge, okc would aleays want a pick. lol

yeah, but they both have injury issues, but one is 25 the other is 31.

[basketballRob]

Big usage guards that lose a step, because of age or injury, end up out of the league fast. Watching some of the Celtics games at the end of the year, Kemba looked like he was trying to prove something, and he just wasn't very good.

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[fendilim]

Maybe the best chance to move Harris for a 1st rounder is like how the Thunder moved Horford.

Trade him for a player that a team wants to move on from, maybe with a year more on his contract than Harris.

We’re not going to be players for free agency until 2023 at the earliest, so this is the time to make those types of moves. The question then becomes what teams/players could we trade with for that kind of scenario?

Stockpiling picks/young talent will be advantageous when trading for stars also too, since not all stars contracts will match up to being free agents when we have space.

Who would want Harris tho? Harris is damaged goods. Just like Kemba. It took a 1st rounder packaged with him to move him.

[ogmagicfan]

Maybe the best chance to move Harris for a 1st rounder is like how the Thunder moved Horford.

Trade him for a player that a team wants to move on from, maybe with a year more on his contract than Harris.

We’re not going to be players for free agency until 2023 at the earliest, so this is the time to make those types of moves. The question then becomes what teams/players could we trade with for that kind of scenario?

Stockpiling picks/young talent will be advantageous when trading for stars also too, since not all stars contracts will match up to being free agents when we have space.

Who would want Harris tho? Harris is damaged goods. Just like Kemba. It took a 1st rounder packaged with him to move him.

I’d argue that Harris is just as valuable of an asset if not more than Horford. They ended up getting a 1st out of him. It’s more so us taking on a bad contract and matching it with Harris’ than highlighting how good of an asset Harris is.

However if Harris puts it together this upcoming season to start that’ll make it alot easier.

We gotta take the 76ers/Thunder route of seeing what we can get out of our players and their potential, and moving them at their peak value if it doesn’t align like with MCW & Moses Brown.

[pepe1991]

Horford's contract is not fully guaranteed.

[Bensational]

OKC would have to add a pick to Kemba (unless i read that wrong) Dallas would not be adding a pick to Porzingis for Kemba (which is how i read it)

Well in an ideal world, you add a pick to the "lesser value" player. However, who that is between the two is kinda subjective.

But if history is to be a judge, okc would aleays want a pick. lol

yeah, but they both have injury issues, but one is 25 the other is 31.

Yeah, Porzingis + a pick would be like suggesting we trade Isaac + a pick for Kemba. I don’t think any Magic fan would be onboard with that.

[drsd]

HOU for Wall? + picks

insert other bad contract here

A Walker for Wall trade: talk about "moving deck chairs".


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[pepe1991]

HOU for Wall? + picks

insert other bad contract here

A Walker for Wall trade: talk about "moving deck chairs".


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Wall and Walker would still be by far our best players

Maybe if we get Jalen Green, adding high quality veteran PG is actually smart. Especially escaping Fultz contract would be great. Wall is goner in two years regardless and frees up almost $50M

[fendilim]

Maybe the best chance to move Harris for a 1st rounder is like how the Thunder moved Horford.

Trade him for a player that a team wants to move on from, maybe with a year more on his contract than Harris.

We’re not going to be players for free agency until 2023 at the earliest, so this is the time to make those types of moves. The question then becomes what teams/players could we trade with for that kind of scenario?

Stockpiling picks/young talent will be advantageous when trading for stars also too, since not all stars contracts will match up to being free agents when we have space.

Who would want Harris tho? Harris is damaged goods. Just like Kemba. It took a 1st rounder packaged with him to move him.

I’d argue that Harris is just as valuable of an asset if not more than Horford. They ended up getting a 1st out of him. It’s more so us taking on a bad contract and matching it with Harris’ than highlighting how good of an asset Harris is.

However if Harris puts it together this upcoming season to start that’ll make it alot easier.

We gotta take the 76ers/Thunder route of seeing what we can get out of our players and their potential, and moving them at their peak value if it doesn’t align like with MCW & Moses Brown.

It depends, imo. I think the reason why the Celtics were also ok with the deal is because they know how Horford works in their system.

Also, Harris is a free agent next yr, and as previous trade market has indicated for expiring deals, you wont really get anything for them. Just off the top of my head, Fournier trade only got us a 2nd rounder. And he had really good numbers for us.

[drsd]

Well... good thing OKC has a gazillion picks for sweeteners then.

Are they now up to 19 FRPs over the next 6 years?

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