Tankapolooza: Draft Lottery Odds/Watch thread

[VFX]

I was so pissed when PHX beat OKC and the so called MVP, but thank God the Lakers also won.

Regarding the draft, I don't mind if we fall out of the top 5. I just want the Lakers to lose their pick

I don't want to draft a PF but anybody else is fair game. My priority would be a PG

We can get by with EP as our starting pg. He is showing improvement to his game. Our biggest glaring need is SF. Signing Jeff Green to another 15m dollar contract shouldn't even be a consideration. The only way I can see us taking a guard is if Fultz is somehow available. Even then, there would be some massive restructuring to the roster.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

I was so pissed when PHX beat OKC and the so called MVP, but thank God the Lakers also won.

Regarding the draft, I don't mind if we fall out of the top 5. I just want the Lakers to lose their pick

I don't want to draft a PF but anybody else is fair game. My priority would be a PG

I want to the Lakers to fall out too but I don't think that should be our main concern. Why would you be ok falling out of the top 5? We need an elite prospect on this team. If I had a choice of getting a top 3 pick with the Lakers picking in the top 3 with us Id take that over falling out of the top 5 and the Lakers losing their pick.

If PG is priority Fox should be the target outside of the top 2. Problem is what to do with Payton at that point? Payton is putting up some solid pointless numbers as of late and that complicates things. Im all for taking the BPA but Payton and Fox are so similar. Im actually torn on this subject cause Im a big fan of Fox.

Because I think we could get a nice PG at 6. Smith Jr or Fox

I'd like Payton to be our backup PG, but if his ego can't handle that then trade him. Payton has improved, but he's not one of those must-keep guys

[Ducklett]

I was so pissed when PHX beat OKC and the so called MVP, but thank God the Lakers also won.

Regarding the draft, I don't mind if we fall out of the top 5. I just want the Lakers to lose their pick

I don't want to draft a PF but anybody else is fair game. My priority would be a PG

If we fall out of the top 5 I sincerely hope the Magic don't sell a single ticket next season.

[drsd]

Our biggest glaring need is SF. Signing Jeff Green to another 15m dollar contract shouldn't even be a consideration.

The Magic has about 18M to spend with contracts such as Green's coming off of the books. To resolve the SF need, the best available player is Danilo Gallinari. A 4-year 60M deal would probably get him.

Otherwise we are looking at trades. Otto Porter Jr. might want max money to come to Orlando, and trading Fournier might not be enough for the Wizards.

What Magic fans could pray for is the Bulls missing the playoffs. That would make management seriously consider blowing up the Bulls roster. Fournier, Zimmerman and the high first could get him.

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[drsd]

If we fall out of the top 5 I sincerely hope the Magic don't sell a single ticket next season.

With he Sixers and Magic currently splitting lottery balls, falling out of the top 5 is at a 31%. If the Magic finishes worse the the Sixers, it goes to 17.2%.


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[Blue_and_Whte]

So glad we won that game against Brooklyn... yay moral victories!!!


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[Mc-o]

I was so pissed when PHX beat OKC and the so called MVP, but thank God the Lakers also won.

Regarding the draft, I don't mind if we fall out of the top 5. I just want the Lakers to lose their pick

I don't want to draft a PF but anybody else is fair game. My priority would be a PG

I want to the Lakers to fall out too but I don't think that should be our main concern. Why would you be ok falling out of the top 5? We need an elite prospect on this team. If I had a choice of getting a top 3 pick with the Lakers picking in the top 3 with us Id take that over falling out of the top 5 and the Lakers losing their pick.

If PG is priority Fox should be the target outside of the top 2. Problem is what to do with Payton at that point? Payton is putting up some solid pointless numbers as of late and that complicates things. Im all for taking the BPA but Payton and Fox are so similar. Im actually torn on this subject cause Im a big fan of Fox.

Because I think we could get a nice PG at 6. Smith Jr or Fox

I'd like Payton to be our backup PG, but if his ego can't handle that then trade him. Payton has improved, but he's not one of those must-keep guys

Lmao it's funny u guys are acting like these guys are 100% going to be better than EP ! There is going to be a lot of disappointed fans when they realize most of these players are going to struggle like every other year! Perfect example is Minnesota this year when they drafted kris dunn(who was thought to be NBA ready) and everyone assumed rubio was gone and now Rubio is killing it and Dunn can't get any minutes on a losing team !

[Magic_Johnny12]

I want to the Lakers to fall out too but I don't think that should be our main concern. Why would you be ok falling out of the top 5? We need an elite prospect on this team. If I had a choice of getting a top 3 pick with the Lakers picking in the top 3 with us Id take that over falling out of the top 5 and the Lakers losing their pick.

If PG is priority Fox should be the target outside of the top 2. Problem is what to do with Payton at that point? Payton is putting up some solid pointless numbers as of late and that complicates things. Im all for taking the BPA but Payton and Fox are so similar. Im actually torn on this subject cause Im a big fan of Fox.

Because I think we could get a nice PG at 6. Smith Jr or Fox

I'd like Payton to be our backup PG, but if his ego can't handle that then trade him. Payton has improved, but he's not one of those must-keep guys

Lmao it's funny u guys are acting like these guys are 100% going to be better than EP ! There is going to be a lot of disappointed fans when they realize most of these players are going to struggle like every other year! Perfect example is Minnesota this year when they drafted kris dunn(who was thought to be NBA ready) and everyone assumed rubio was gone and now Rubio is killing it and Dunn can't get any minutes on a losing team !

FACTSSSSSSSSS.

If we can draft Ball/Fultz then yes I agree we should look to trade Payton, but anyone outside of those two I much rather go with a wing such as Tatum/Jackson and invest in Elfrid. Elfrid is light years ahead of players like Smith/Fox and genuinely in my opinion not worth drafting when our glaring need is at the wing.

I'm also on board with packaging Fournier and a top pick for Butler. Then throw a 4 yr/60-70m contract at Gallanari and call it a successful off season.

Payton/WHY CANT WE EVER GET THIS RIGHT
Ross/Ferguson
Butler/Gordon
Gallanari/Hezonja
Vuc/Biyombo

Trade up with our both seconds and LAC pick and cash to teams like Chicago/Indiana/Atlanta picking in the 16-18 area and draft Terrence Ferguson a strong defender and one of if not the best shooter in the '17 draft.

Would be a happy camper if that happened, but as history shows no major trade will go down and we will draft Lauri Markkanen with the #4 pick and sign Andre Igudola to an absurd contract for his "championship experience and veteran leadership" and hate him the second he gets on the floor.

[OrlandoDream]

I was so pissed when PHX beat OKC and the so called MVP, but thank God the Lakers also won.

Regarding the draft, I don't mind if we fall out of the top 5. I just want the Lakers to lose their pick

I don't want to draft a PF but anybody else is fair game. My priority would be a PG

I want to the Lakers to fall out too but I don't think that should be our main concern. Why would you be ok falling out of the top 5? We need an elite prospect on this team. If I had a choice of getting a top 3 pick with the Lakers picking in the top 3 with us Id take that over falling out of the top 5 and the Lakers losing their pick.

If PG is priority Fox should be the target outside of the top 2. Problem is what to do with Payton at that point? Payton is putting up some solid pointless numbers as of late and that complicates things. Im all for taking the BPA but Payton and Fox are so similar. Im actually torn on this subject cause Im a big fan of Fox.

Because I think we could get a nice PG at 6. Smith Jr or Fox

I'd like Payton to be our backup PG, but if his ego can't handle that then trade him. Payton has improved, but he's not one of those must-keep guys

I don't want to get rid of Payton. Him and AG have developed the best chemistry of any two players out there. Trading him will piss off AG. Keep Payton as our backup. He has improved alot this year.If we're going to break up a duo, get rid of the sadazz Fournier/Vuc two man crap. I think Vuc is done with us. He just looked tired of this stuff. Replacing him won't be easy, bc he is still our best player.

Also there is no guarantee that Fox or DSJr will be better then Payton. Fox is just another elfrid copy. Imagine having to wait 3 seasons just for him to hit a jumper. I wouldn't mind gambling on DSJr though. If he falls to the 5th, id gladly take him.

[axl_c_cool]

Because I think we could get a nice PG at 6. Smith Jr or Fox

I'd like Payton to be our backup PG, but if his ego can't handle that then trade him. Payton has improved, but he's not one of those must-keep guys

Lmao it's funny u guys are acting like these guys are 100% going to be better than EP ! There is going to be a lot of disappointed fans when they realize most of these players are going to struggle like every other year! Perfect example is Minnesota this year when they drafted kris dunn(who was thought to be NBA ready) and everyone assumed rubio was gone and now Rubio is killing it and Dunn can't get any minutes on a losing team !

FACTSSSSSSSSS.

If we can draft Ball/Fultz then yes I agree we should look to trade Payton, but anyone outside of those two I much rather go with a wing such as Tatum/Jackson and invest in Elfrid. Elfrid is light years ahead of players like Smith/Fox and genuinely in my opinion not worth drafting when our glaring need is at the wing.

I'm also on board with packaging Fournier and a top pick for Butler. Then throw a 4 yr/60-70m contract at Gallanari and call it a successful off season.

Payton/WHY CANT WE EVER GET THIS RIGHT
Ross/Ferguson
Butler/Gordon
Gallanari/Hezonja
Vuc/Biyombo

Trade up with our both seconds and LAC pick and cash to teams like Chicago/Indiana/Atlanta picking in the 16-18 area and draft Terrence Ferguson a strong defender and one of if not the best shooter in the '17 draft.

Would be a happy camper if that happened, but as history shows no major trade will go down and we will draft Lauri Markkanen with the #4 pick and sign Andre Igudola to an absurd contract for his "championship experience and veteran leadership" and hate him the second he gets on the floor.

Gordon on the bench....???

[Magic_Johnny12]

Lmao it's funny u guys are acting like these guys are 100% going to be better than EP ! There is going to be a lot of disappointed fans when they realize most of these players are going to struggle like every other year! Perfect example is Minnesota this year when they drafted kris dunn(who was thought to be NBA ready) and everyone assumed rubio was gone and now Rubio is killing it and Dunn can't get any minutes on a losing team !

FACTSSSSSSSSS.

If we can draft Ball/Fultz then yes I agree we should look to trade Payton, but anyone outside of those two I much rather go with a wing such as Tatum/Jackson and invest in Elfrid. Elfrid is light years ahead of players like Smith/Fox and genuinely in my opinion not worth drafting when our glaring need is at the wing.

I'm also on board with packaging Fournier and a top pick for Butler. Then throw a 4 yr/60-70m contract at Gallanari and call it a successful off season.

Payton/WHY CANT WE EVER GET THIS RIGHT
Ross/Ferguson
Butler/Gordon
Gallanari/Hezonja
Vuc/Biyombo

Trade up with our both seconds and LAC pick and cash to teams like Chicago/Indiana/Atlanta picking in the 16-18 area and draft Terrence Ferguson a strong defender and one of if not the best shooter in the '17 draft.

Would be a happy camper if that happened, but as history shows no major trade will go down and we will draft Lauri Markkanen with the #4 pick and sign Andre Igudola to an absurd contract for his "championship experience and veteran leadership" and hate him the second he gets on the floor.

Gordon on the bench....???

Either or, literally makes no difference. Gordon off the bench will still probably play more minutes than Gallo.

I'm not on the Gordon HAS to start train. I'm on the whatever makes sense and makes the team better train. If he PROVES to be a starter he will be rewarded as so.

[VFX]

Our biggest glaring need is SF. Signing Jeff Green to another 15m dollar contract shouldn't even be a consideration.

The Magic has about 18M to spend with contracts such as Green's coming off of the books. To resolve the SF need, the best available player is Danilo Gallinari. A 4-year 60M deal would probably get him.

Otherwise we are looking at trades. Otto Porter Jr. might want max money to come to Orlando, and trading Fournier might not be enough for the Wizards.

What Magic fans could pray for is the Bulls missing the playoffs. That would make management seriously consider blowing up the Bulls roster. Fournier, Zimmerman and the high first could get him.

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I wouldn't mind Gallo if he could stay healthy.

Pass on porter because we need someone to create offense he doesn't cut it for the money.

If you are suggesting Butler for Fournier, Zimmerman, and a 1st I would bet they can field a better offer.

[Jameerthefear]

Why do people still want to skip steps? We'll end up back where we started. Stay put and draft well. Do not give a guy who's injured all the time big money and don't​ trade for a star who will leave at the first chance he can get.

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[VFX]

Why do people still want to skip steps? We'll end up back where we started. Stay put and draft well. Do not give a guy who's injured all the time big money and don't​ trade for a star who will leave at the first chance he can get.

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This. We need to retain our own drafted players.

[axl_c_cool]

FACTSSSSSSSSS.

If we can draft Ball/Fultz then yes I agree we should look to trade Payton, but anyone outside of those two I much rather go with a wing such as Tatum/Jackson and invest in Elfrid. Elfrid is light years ahead of players like Smith/Fox and genuinely in my opinion not worth drafting when our glaring need is at the wing.

I'm also on board with packaging Fournier and a top pick for Butler. Then throw a 4 yr/60-70m contract at Gallanari and call it a successful off season.

Payton/WHY CANT WE EVER GET THIS RIGHT
Ross/Ferguson
Butler/Gordon
Gallanari/Hezonja
Vuc/Biyombo

Trade up with our both seconds and LAC pick and cash to teams like Chicago/Indiana/Atlanta picking in the 16-18 area and draft Terrence Ferguson a strong defender and one of if not the best shooter in the '17 draft.

Would be a happy camper if that happened, but as history shows no major trade will go down and we will draft Lauri Markkanen with the #4 pick and sign Andre Igudola to an absurd contract for his "championship experience and veteran leadership" and hate him the second he gets on the floor.

Gordon on the bench....???

Either or, literally makes no difference. Gordon off the bench will still probably play more minutes than Gallo.

I'm not on the Gordon HAS to start train. I'm on the whatever makes sense and makes the team better train. If he PROVES to be a starter he will be rewarded as so.

Gordon's youth and what he's shown since the ASG and how young we'll be is a reason I feel he has to start, it's long term. I like your deals, I'd probably go

Payton/Augustine
Butler/Ross
Gallanari/Ferguson
Gordon/Hezonja
Biyombo/Vucevic


That line up has scoring in the first unit, Biyombo protects the rim, the second is full of shooting. Like you said it'll give players a chance to claim spots but Ross off the bench as a 6th man would be dangerous

[OrlandoDream]

Why do people still want to skip steps? We'll end up back where we started. Stay put and draft well. Do not give a guy who's injured all the time big money and don't​ trade for a star who will leave at the first chance he can get.

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Fans are ok with this, ownership is not. After seeing those drop in ticket sales this year and increase in cancellation of season tickets, Devos and Martins are already colluding on how they can flip this roster once again to raise ticket sales. That's why I'm not counting us out on another Jimmy Butler run. Who we hire as a GM is really gonna decide the core of the group.

[Gomagic44]

After the ibaka blunder I am for hiring a new gm who can draft our future. We need to keep our picks.


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[Airgordon00]

Why do people still want to skip steps? We'll end up back where we started. Stay put and draft well. Do not give a guy who's injured all the time big money and don't​ trade for a star who will leave at the first chance he can get.

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Fans are ok with this, ownership is not. After seeing those drop in ticket sales this year and increase in cancellation of season tickets, Devos and Martins are already colluding on how they can flip this roster once again to raise ticket sales. That's why I'm not counting us out on another Jimmy Butler run. Who we hire as a GM is really gonna decide the core of the group.

I agree that ownership will not be patient and push for a win now move which might include us trading our top pick this year for an established player.

I wish we would draft the best player available with all our picks and trade Evan Fournier, Vooch, dj off this team. Allowing the young guys to go out and figure out who is the alpha of the group.

[IllMagic04]

Knicks lost today. So our next game vs the bulls is another big must lose game

[OrlandoDream]

Knicks lost today. So our next game vs the bulls is another big must lose game

Its at their home and they are in a critical must-win state after that loss to the Nets. I think we will drop that one and end up winning the last game vs DET. That will eliminate us from the 6th best odds and guarantee a 4-5 best. I think that last game will be won by Philly which will put us in that tiebreaker/coin flip for the 4th or 5th best odds. Just knowing that we have a guaranteed top 6 pick and coming out with one of Fultz,Ball,Jackson,Tatum,SmithJr, or Isaac brings some peace of mind.