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Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year?

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Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year?

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Post#181 » by PennytoShaq » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:08 pm

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Not hardheaded and long winded, just very thoroughly explained. I value Pepe's realism amidst some delusional posters fairytales. And most of the time it's better to expect little and be surprised, than otherwise.


I agree, but Pepe is quite known for posting at OPP and constantly complaining that Mario never got minutes. If you saw the posts, you would know that he is guilty of the exact same delusion that you are referencing here. So no one is perfect, and no one knows it all. Additionally, posting stats that fit a narrative and then adding a frustration emoji at the end is not my definition of thoroughly explained.

That being said, I basically agree and get what you are saying, especially about the last part. I personally am not expecting more than 35-38 wins, but I could see how this could finally start going in a good direction due to the team finally establishing an identity of hard work and hustle again.


I admit i was wrong about Mario, at some point you simply have to figure out that he lacks of talent for nba , or at least bigger min in nba. My OPP posts are always backed up by stats and only player i ever hated for Magic last 3 years was Jeff Green 8-)


Well I do not fault you for Mario, I am just bringing it up as perspective. We all want to see these guys do well. I still think Mario has the tools to be a great shooter at least. Basically what you (and I and others) saw in Mario, I think people still see in Aaron Gordon - flashes of talent where you see the guy take over a game in short stints.

Sucks to have these guys with the potential to be really great players and so far it has not happened. That's 2 top 5 picks that have yet to pan out. This is a key year for both. At least it is a storyline to keep us entertained.
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Re: Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year? 

Post#182 » by pepe1991 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:18 pm

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I agree, but Pepe is quite known for posting at OPP and constantly complaining that Mario never got minutes. If you saw the posts, you would know that he is guilty of the exact same delusion that you are referencing here. So no one is perfect, and no one knows it all. Additionally, posting stats that fit a narrative and then adding a frustration emoji at the end is not my definition of thoroughly explained.

That being said, I basically agree and get what you are saying, especially about the last part. I personally am not expecting more than 35-38 wins, but I could see how this could finally start going in a good direction due to the team finally establishing an identity of hard work and hustle again.


I admit i was wrong about Mario, at some point you simply have to figure out that he lacks of talent for nba , or at least bigger min in nba. My OPP posts are always backed up by stats and only player i ever hated for Magic last 3 years was Jeff Green 8-)


Well I do not fault you for Mario, I am just bringing it up as perspective. We all want to see these guys do well. I still think Mario has the tools to be a great shooter at least. Basically what you (and I and others) saw in Mario, I think people still see in Aaron Gordon - flashes of talent where you see the guy take over a game in short stints.

Sucks to have these guys with the potential to be really great players and so far it has not happened. That's 2 top 5 picks that have yet to pan out. This is a key year for both. At least it is a storyline to keep us entertained.


I have some hopes for Gordon to become Shawn Marion type of player ( rich mane Thad Young ? ) , for Hezonja ,at this moment , if he comes close to Bojan or Bogdan Bogdanovic it would be amazing, but i would not bet my money on that odd.
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Re: Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year? 

Post#183 » by dsg2021 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:21 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
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I admit i was wrong about Mario, at some point you simply have to figure out that he lacks of talent for nba , or at least bigger min in nba. My OPP posts are always backed up by stats and only player i ever hated for Magic last 3 years was Jeff Green 8-)


Well I do not fault you for Mario, I am just bringing it up as perspective. We all want to see these guys do well. I still think Mario has the tools to be a great shooter at least. Basically what you (and I and others) saw in Mario, I think people still see in Aaron Gordon - flashes of talent where you see the guy take over a game in short stints.

Sucks to have these guys with the potential to be really great players and so far it has not happened. That's 2 top 5 picks that have yet to pan out. This is a key year for both. At least it is a storyline to keep us entertained.


I have some hopes for Gordon to become Shawn Marion type of player ( rich mane Thad Young ? ) , for Hezonja ,at this moment , if he comes close to Bojan or Bogdan Bogdanovic it would be amazing, but i would not bet my money on that odd.


Yeah, all these people ragging on some of our loftier comparables (like Blake Griffin) when all of along there was a lot of us including our more realistic comparables (like Shawn Marion) from forum posts long past. Cut the guy some slack, he's clearly making little step after little step, at such a young age too.
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Re: Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year? 

Post#184 » by JBSouthpaw » Fri Oct 6, 2017 3:53 pm

Would AG be open to a deal like Powell's ?? 42M extension?
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Post#185 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Oct 6, 2017 5:32 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:Would AG be open to a deal like Powell's ?? 42M extension?


IF he is Weltman should be fired immediately for not signing him already, but to answer your question......absolutely not.

I'm sure his agent is telling him he could easily get 15-20m/yr on the open market.

Pope got 18m/yr even though it's for one year, I'm sure he'll get something averaging 16+ annually next off season.

Then you got Andrew Wiggins that's looking for 30m a year and looking like he's going to get it. By all advanced measures Gordon should at least be getting the same as Wiggins if we're basing on analytics/potential.

JAMES FREAKIN JOHNSON got 15m a year (still insane to me) this summer so I'm sure Aaron Gordon feels he deserves more than him, which I agree with.

and players way less productive and older like Taj Gibson, Zach Randolph got deals averaging 12-14m/yr.

I think we settle giving him a 70/4yr contract with max incentives, we could be looking at matching a 20+/yr contract if he hits restricted free agency or simply losing him for nothing (which in my opinion will be a HORRIBLE outcome even having Isaac).
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Re: Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year? 

Post#186 » by Knightro » Fri Oct 6, 2017 6:02 pm

I think Gordon has a great chance to put up roughly the same numbers he did after the all-star break last year.

16 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG, 1 BPG with a .500/.300/.800 slash.

If he does that over the whole season with solid defense, I think he'll get 18-20M per year
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Post#187 » by j-ragg » Fri Oct 6, 2017 7:12 pm

Knightro wrote:I think Gordon has a great chance to put up roughly the same numbers he did after the all-star break last year.

16 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG, 1 BPG with a .500/.300/.800 slash.

If he does that over the whole season with solid defense, I think he'll get 18-20M per year

Agreed. I'd be happy with that.
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Post#188 » by Skin » Fri Oct 6, 2017 8:14 pm

29 Yes's vs 59 No's. ha ha

Gordon is gonna blow it up this year. Expect a contract in the $20M per year range.
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Re: Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year? 

Post#189 » by Def Swami » Fri Oct 6, 2017 8:34 pm

j-ragg wrote:
Knightro wrote:I think Gordon has a great chance to put up roughly the same numbers he did after the all-star break last year.

16 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG, 1 BPG with a .500/.300/.800 slash.

If he does that over the whole season with solid defense, I think he'll get 18-20M per year

Agreed. I'd be happy with that.

Same. Not sure it's star quality, but I'm hoping he turns into a consistently good basketball player.
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Post#190 » by PrimeThyme » Fri Oct 6, 2017 8:46 pm

All star game here we come AG.
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Post#191 » by Instincts » Sat Oct 7, 2017 4:27 pm

He is definitely capable of that line for the season, but prob more importantly, I think he will realize he can also dominate a game on the boards and defensively when necessary, in conjunction with his increased offensive role.

And while from an energy perspective it is a lot to ask of any player on a season basis to carry a load offensively, defensively, and on the boards, as he gets more comfortable with his increased offensive role he will be able to turn on the complete game when needed. For big games or a playoff run he is capable of 20/20 games. And even with what I would imagine to be an increased offensive role and decreased rebounding role, I would still expect to see several 20/20 games from him this year.

Bottom line, yes he will become a two way player capable of dominating games. Does it happen all at once this year, i believe he makes substantial progress and rises to this new challenge of leading this team, but it's still a process. And from draft day we knew AG was "raw" and would take time to develop, in my mind he is ahead of schedule in his development, most importantly of course having developed a respectable shooting form. Only question is how high is the ceiling.


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Knightro wrote:I think Gordon has a great chance to put up roughly the same numbers he did after the all-star break last year.

16 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG, 1 BPG with a .500/.300/.800 slash.

If he does that over the whole season with solid defense, I think he'll get 18-20M per year

Agreed. I'd be happy with that.

Same. Not sure it's star quality, but I'm hoping he turns into a consistently good basketball player.
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Post#192 » by Skybox » Sat Oct 7, 2017 5:12 pm

I think he has the ability to demoralize opposing teams on the offensive glass. He's really good at tip-ins and follow dunks. If he keeps his motor on full, that's the kind of skill/craftiness + physical advantage that can break open a game. Defensively, Vuc can gobble up all the boards, but I could easily see AG leading the league in offensive rebounds and pick up 3 or 4 putbacks per game (along with the free throws that come with frustrating opponents). If Vuc continues to play decent interior D, I'd really like to see AG roam, looking for weak-side blocks and steals...Could drive opponents crazy on both ends.
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Post#193 » by ChosenSavior » Sun Oct 8, 2017 11:14 am

Skin wrote:29 Yes's vs 59 No's. ha ha

Gordon is gonna blow it up this year. Expect a contract in the $20M per year range.


I'm glad I'm on the YES side of this poll. His jumper looks excellent now and fires it at a much quicker release. I believe in his talents and feel he will be one of the major candidates for Most Improved this season.
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Post#194 » by OrlandoDream » Sun Oct 8, 2017 6:09 pm

Aaron Gordon will be a 2017-2018 East NBA All-Star. Remember this post.
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Post#195 » by Bensational » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:33 am

He’s off to a great start this preseason. Looks to have asserted himself as much more of a scorer and earned the trust of the coaches and other players. Gonna be exciting to watch this season!
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Post#196 » by Instincts » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:03 am

It's not only about the jumpshot, he is showing improvement in a lot of areas, but the jumpshot is the game changer . Form just looks so textbook.

Bensational wrote:He’s off to a great start this preseason. Looks to have asserted himself as much more of a scorer and earned the trust of the coaches and other players. Gonna be exciting to watch this season!
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Post#197 » by Kabookalu » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:18 pm

Gonna be watching a few Magic games just to keep tabs on Gordon. Been really high on him since I watched him play in high school, just an unbelievable talent. Hasn't put it all together yet but if he improves his jumper and handles he's going to be a great great player for you guys.
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Post#198 » by SHAQ32 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:58 am

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Post#199 » by drsd » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:05 am

Gordon is on his way to a max deal.
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Post#200 » by AK47MVP » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:25 am

And some of you were crying rivers when Orlando did not draft Exum. Oh how smart that move looks now:)

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