OT- Official WWE/TNA/ROH Thread|Year of CM Punk

ADRajX · Post #21 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:19 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:This was pretty clearly a work.

Between the statement on the WWE website (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-06-27 ... pends-punk) and the fact that no one cut him off earlier, this will definitely be worked into a storyline.

Of course it's all a work lol... that's why it's a worked shoot... but what Punk said was the "Truth".... they basically gave him the mic and told him to say whatever he wanted to... and well, he told it like is, big-time haha... he went over-the-top with his rant, and that's what Vince and WWE wanted him to do... it was visceral and surreal. I figured the creative team would do this... turn this WWE/Punk contract/backstage situation into a storyline, since Punk is not expected re-sign with the WWE in real-life, due to displeasure with his character usage and direction... Punk is going to take a break for a bit imo, but when he comes back, he's going to be even more HUGE... unless he has a change of heart and re-signs before his current deal expires.

Btw, I've been enjoying R-Truth's recent work as a heel too. He reminds me of Brian Pillman... just off the walls crazy.

R-Truth, CM Punk, Christian, and Mark Henry are the only 4 guys keeping me interested in the WWE product... all of them have stepped up their game.

I can't wait until Jericho returns.

Gerhalt11 · Post #22 » by **Gerhalt11** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:29 pm

DJRajX wrote:Of course it's all a work lol...

Don't give me that "Of course" BS. You didn't even know if it was a work in your OP.

DJRajX wrote:Whether it was a worked shoot or a shoot...

ADRajX · Post #23 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:32 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Of course it's all a work lol...

Don't give me that "Of course" BS. You didn't even know if it was a work in your OP.

DJRajX wrote:Whether it was a worked shoot or a shoot...

That was last night (just an hour after Raw aired), a lot of fans didn't know whether it was a worked shoot or a shoot initially (if you don't believe me, go read the wrestlingforum.com posts)... as the news and the spoilers for next week's Raw taping came out later in the night... it was pretty apparent that it was a worked shoot... see, opinions and thoughts and perceptions can change Gerhalt11.

Punk did a great job with his promo... it gave that doubt and real-life feel to it... that shows how great of a performer he really is... he did a tremendous job.

Don't get touchy with me btw... relax... If you read my 2nd post or posts thereafter from last night when I was responding to Miracle and Cammo, I pretty much stated that it was a worked shoot... the spoilers had already came out for next week's episode... so relax.

DJRajX wrote:I guess you read the spoilers for next week's Raw lol (about Cena and McMahon)...

DJRajX wrote:Yeah, it's more of a worked shoot than an actual shoot...

You didn't even care for the thread or CM Punk anyways... judging from your post on page 1... so really, why is whether this is a "worked shoot or shoot" bothering you? Who cares, it was awesome lol.

Gerhalt11 wrote:Who?

Gerhalt11 · Post #24 » by **Gerhalt11** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:39 pm

DJRajX wrote:
Gerhalt11 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Of course it's all a work lol...

Don't give me that "Of course" BS. You didn't even know if it was a work in your OP.

DJRajX wrote:Whether it was a worked shoot or a shoot...

That was last night,, a lot of fans didn't know whether it was a worked shoot or a shoot (if you don't believe me, go read the wrestlingforum.com posts)... as the news and the spoilers for next week's Raw taping came out later in the night... it was pretty apparent that it was a worked shoot.

Punk did a great job with his promo... it gave that doubt and real-life feel to it... that shows how great of a performer he really is... he did a tremendous job.

Don't get touchy with me btw... relax... If you read my 2nd post or posts thereafter from last night when I was responding to Miracle and Cammo, I pretty much stated that it was a worked shoot... the spoilers had already came out for next week's episode... so relax

You didn't even care for the thread or CM Punk anyways... judging from your post on page 1... so really, why is whether this is a "worked shoot or shoot" bothering you? Who cares, it was awesome lol.
Gerhalt11 wrote:Who?

I'm in the same boat as some others, I used to be a huge wrestling fan but haven't watched for a few years. I'm a child of the DX/nWo generation. This did grab my interest, though. And it was a great promo. There may have been a degree of uncertainty. Seems weird they'd tell Cena to just chill in the ring while CM was doing his thing.

N4U|Redux · Post #25 » by **N4U|Redux** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:45 pm

Gerhalt seems to be completely oblivious to wtf a worked shoot is. Of course WWE would've just cut to commercial and not showed anything if it wasn't planned.

It was planned, it's part of a storyline. It's already reportedly ruined if you read the spoilers. That said, it probably wasn't scripted and the content was pretty ballsy and probably reflected his true beliefs.

That's the significance of the promo.

ADRajX · Post #26 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:46 pm

^ and ^, I agree. Even the wrestlers backstage thought Punk was in business for himself LOL... can't blame the fans for having that doubt... it was just a damn good promo bro

... that means he did a great job, if people (such as myself) at one point thought it was real. The content of what Punk was saying was real (shoot), but the storyline and direction was worked (ex: Director and creative team telling Punk to do this promo).

Backstage Reaction To CM Punk's RAW Promo - Ryan Clark
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines ... _Promo.php
While some people backstage knew it was coming, CM Punk’s shoot promo on Monday Night RAW certainly had everyone buzzing. When Punk started talking about being “a Paul Heyman guy,” and referenced controversial, past WWE names like Brock Lesnar, many wrestlers watching on the monitor were said to be “simply and solidly stunned” according to one WWE Superstar we spoke with, and several others were trying to find out Talent Exec John Laurinaitis’ reaction as well.

While no one believes Punk went into business for himself, the majority of the RAW locker room was said to be “in shock” (according to one source in production) over how strong the shoot promo was, and the delivery.

We will have tons more on this story as it continues to develop. It was a worked-shoot promo as evidenced by next week's RAW **SPOILERS**.

But yeah man... I grew up during the WCW/ECW/WWF days of the 90s... I miss it so much... nWo, DX, Flock, Austin/McMahon, The Rock, Foley, Goldberg, Sting, DDP, ECW Revolution. Wrestling is so bland and dry now. Characters and performers like Punk are few and far between in this day and age. Back then, we all used to watch Nitro/Thunder, ECW, and Raw is War/Smackdown every week... and those shows used to be amazing, with hot crowds and crazy feuds/angles/stories... it was fresh... now it's just re-hashed garbage, and it isn't even edgy anymore... CM Punk brought the edge.

Gerhalt11 · Post #27 » by **Gerhalt11** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:48 pm

N4U|Redux wrote:Gerhalt seems to be completely oblivious to wtf a worked shoot is. Of course WWE would've just cut to commercial and not showed anything if it wasn't planned.

It was planned, it's part of a storyline. It's already reportedly ruined if you read the spoilers. That said, it probably wasn't scripted and the content was pretty ballsy and probably reflected his true beliefs.

That's the significance of the promo.

Hi, I'm the original post, maybe you missed me.

DJ said he wasn't sure if it was a work or a shoot. I was responding to that. And sorry I don't read wrestling spoiler sites, bra.

Gerhalt11 · Post #28 » by **Gerhalt11** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:50 pm

DJRajX wrote:^ and ^, I agree. Even the wrestlers backstage thought Punk was in business for himself LOL... can't blame the fans for having that doubt... it was just a damn good promo bro ... that means he did a great job, if people (such as myself) at one point thought it was real. The content of what Punk was saying was real (shoot), but the storyline and direction was worked (ex: Director and creative team telling Punk to do this promo).

Backstage Reaction To CM Punk's RAW Promo - Ryan Clark
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines ... _Promo.php
While some people backstage knew it was coming, CM Punk’s shoot promo on Monday Night RAW certainly had everyone buzzing. When Punk started talking about being “a Paul Heyman guy,” and referenced controversial, past WWE names like Brock Lesnar, many wrestlers watching on the monitor were said to be “simply and solidly stunned” according to one WWE Superstar we spoke with, and several others were trying to find out Talent Exec John Laurinaitis’ reaction as well.

While no one believes Punk went into business for himself, the majority of the RAW locker room was said to be “in shock” (according to one source in production) over how strong the shoot promo was, and the delivery.

We will have tons more on this story as it continues to develop. It was a worked-shoot promo as evidenced by next week's RAW **SPOILERS**.

But yeah man... I grew up during the WCW/ECW/WWF days of the 90s... I miss it so much... nWo, DX, Flock, Austin/McMahon, The Rock, Foley, Goldberg, Sting, DDP, ECW Revolution. Wrestling is so bland and dry now. Characters and performers like Punk are few and far between in this day and age. Back then, we all used to watch Nitro/Thunder, ECW, and Raw is War/Smackdown every week... and those shows used to be amazing, with hot crowds and crazy feuds/angles/stories... it was fresh... now it's just re-hashed garbage, and it isn't even edgy anymore... CM Punk brought the edge.

I hear ya. I might not get back into wrestling because of this, but it's nice to see an injection of surprise every now in then. And when something like this happens that it takes over twitter, I mean you never see anything like that anymore. Good stuff.

ADRajX · Post #29 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:51 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:
N4U|Redux wrote:Gerhalt seems to be completely oblivious to wtf a worked shoot is. Of course WWE would've just cut to commercial and not showed anything if it wasn't planned.

It was planned, it's part of a storyline. It's already reportedly ruined if you read the spoilers. That said, it probably wasn't scripted and the content was pretty ballsy and probably reflected his true beliefs.

That's the significance of the promo.

Hi, I'm the original post, maybe you missed me.

DJ said he wasn't sure if it was a work or a shoot. I was responding to that. And sorry I don't read wrestling spoiler sites, bra.

Again, that was my initial reaction after the show (like a bunch of other folks did, I "marked out")... an hour or so later that night, my perception had changed ... as the news from the wrestling sites and the spoilers for next week's show came out... but I wasn't the only one... literally thousands of folks thought it was a real shoot in real-time when it happened; which means Punk did a great job. If you read my posts from last night, I changed my stance on the "subject".

But it's all good... I know you mean well... you were just answering the question I initially stated in my OP, no worries

.

Gerhalt11 · Post #30 » by **Gerhalt11** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:52 pm

DJRajX wrote:Again, that was my initial reaction after the show... an hour or so later that night, it changed ... as the news from the wrestling sites and the spoilers for next week's show came out... but I wasn't the only one... literally thousands of folks thought it was a real shoot in real-time when it happened; which means Punk did a great job. If you read my posts from last night, I changed my stance on the "subject".

Yeah, I get that now. Totally cool. Just responding to N4U's little spaz attack.

ADRajX · Post #31 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:58 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Again, that was my initial reaction after the show (like a bunch of other folks did, I "marked out")... an hour or so later that night, my perception had changed ... as the news from the wrestling sites and the spoilers for next week's show came out... but I wasn't the only one... literally thousands of folks thought it was a real shoot in real-time when it happened; which means Punk did a great job. If you read my posts from last night, I changed my stance on the "subject". But it's all good... I know you mean well... you just answering the question for me I initially stated in my OP, no worries .

Yeah, I get that now. Totally cool. Just responding to N4U's little spaz attack.

Yep, no problem... I set myself up for that one anyways. N4U didn't mean any harm... he probably just thought you didn't know what a "worked shoot" was, that's all. Just a 3-way mis-communication deal, no biggie.

Btw, if you haven't been watching the show... you should watch it to see R-Truth lol... I'm telling you, his character is Brian Pillman crazy, check it out:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUpSy4pEzs[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXcDd0KRctk&feature=related[/youtube]

MiracleBZop · Post #32 » by **MiracleBZop** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:09 pm

I'm not going to lie to you guys, at first I thought it was a pure shoot as well.

As DJ said, as the reports came out from backstage, it was deemed a work-shoot.

The gist of what Punk was saying in his promo was all real though.

And I am enjoying R Truth's work lately too. He is way more entertaining as a heel.

MoGrAdY · Post #33 » by **MoGrAdY** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:19 pm

Honestly between what they are doing with R-Truth and this angle with CM Punk I have to give WWE some credit. They took Truth from being irrelevant to a GREAT heel. Now they are finally giving Punk the freedom he has always needed to be a superstar. This is the type of stuff that made me love WWF when I was little. I also love the A Ry/Miz bits lately. Nice to see Riley finally wrestling for real and showing his stuff, he is a great talent. Miz is awesome (Obviously)!

ADRajX · Post #34 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:28 pm

MoGrAdY wrote:Honestly between what they are doing with R-Truth and this angle with CM Punk I have to give WWE some credit. They took Truth from being irrelevant to a GREAT heel. Now they are finally giving Punk the freedom he has always needed to be a superstar. This is the type of stuff that made me love WWF when I was little. I also love the A Ry/Miz bits lately. Nice to see Riley finally wrestling for real and showing his stuff, he is a great talent. Miz is awesome (Obviously)!

Punk needs that freedom to be successful... I'm happy as well that WWE is giving him creative freedom.

R-Truth has been beast thus far... and so has Mark Henry.

Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised with Alex Riley... he has a good look, good mic skills, and good in-ring ability... dude has nice charisma... and the Miz works really well with him, they have good in-ring chemistry... he's getting a nice push.

I was really hoping the WWE would give Christian the belt again... but I'll see where the story will lead to with Orton... Christian needs a new theme song, since he is a heel again... the one he has now is too "baby-face" sounding.

I'm really happy to see Mark Henry back in his badass heel role again as well... did you see the Big Show/Cage falling spot from last night? LOL.

I really want the WWE to revive the cruiserweight division... with Kofi, Morrison, Sin Cara, Mysterio, Bourne, etc... last night's Sin Cara vs Evan Bourne match was just a small sample of what WWE could tap into with these great athletes/high-flyers. TNA sure isn't doing anything with their X-Division... WWE could capitalize on it... but I doubt Vince will do it... he hates cruiserweights apparently :-\ ... with the exception of Mysterio and Sin Cara

MoGrAdY · Post #35 » by **MoGrAdY** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:34 pm

Yea the new mean Mark Henry is the best. Christian is getting screwed pretty hard, he has earned the right to hold that belt for a while, Orton is TOO baby face, it's annoying. I've always loved Kofi and wished he had the push to get to the main event but that'll never happen. He has the total package though, he's good enough on the mic and the fans love him. Orton complained about his in ring work though and ever since he's been in mid card hell again.

ADRajX · Post #36 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:38 pm

MoGrAdY wrote:Yea the new mean Mark Henry is the best. Christian is getting screwed pretty hard, he has earned the right to hold that belt for a while, Orton is TOO baby face, it's annoying. I've always loved Kofi and wished he had the push to get to the main event but that'll never happen. He has the total package though, he's good enough on the mic and the fans love him. Orton complained about his in ring work though and ever since he's been in mid card hell again.

Orton did the same thing to Mr. Kennedy/Anderson... he's kind of a backstage prick imo.

MoGrAdY · Post #37 » by **MoGrAdY** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:40 pm

Pretty much, I don't care much for him honestly. He's not overly impressive in ring and his mic skills aren't anything to write home about.

Neon1 · Post #38 » by **Neon1** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:46 pm

Cant lie....I LOL'D my ass off @ 5:53 of that second vid

Post #39 » by **ChosenSavior** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:56 pm

That promo was bad ass, wow! Thank you CM Punk for giving me a reason to follow the WWE again. That promo reminded me of the good ol days of wrestling. Damn I'm getting old... :lol:

ADRajX · Post #40 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:23 pm

Neon1 wrote:Cant lie....I LOL'D my ass off @ 5:53 of that second vid

Every week R-Truth has been gold... along with CM Punk

His "Little Jimmy" schtick is hilarious... like when he crushed John Morrison with the backstage production crate and said... "TAKE THAT LITTLE JIMMY!" :lol:

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTJhSVjtwLw[/youtube]