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Official 2025 Offseason Thread

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Does the FO add a legitimate starting (scoring) guard to the roster this summer?

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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#201 » by three3d » Thu May 1, 2025 5:56 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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Skin wrote:What does that mean to you? Which of our defensive players could be traded for offensive players?


Anthony Black lol


yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..


https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder

I just say look at OKC’s depth chart especially at shooting guard and Lu Dort, Caruso, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins….. :o

AB and Issac plus draft picks and swaps to OKC
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#202 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu May 1, 2025 5:56 pm

Skin wrote:
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Skin wrote:I like the sound of that, but his return will be very little because he sucks.

i wouldn't say he sucks but he's a Guard/Wing that would fit very well with a Garland/Sexton/Simons bucket getter. We don't have any of those and Black is the same mold of Suggs/KCPoop

He sucks, but if trying to get Simons, he has more value than Cole, so maybe there's a way to combine him to build up trade value.

I think Portland could be interested in Isaac as a defensive minded player to pair with poor defenders like Scoot and Shaedon
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#203 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu May 1, 2025 5:57 pm

three3d wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
three3d wrote:
Anthony Black lol


yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..


https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder

I just say look at OKC’s depth chart especially at shooting guard and Lu Dort, Caruso, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins….. :o

I think OKC is going to wait and see if Giannis wants out then throw all the assets at him.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#204 » by Skin » Thu May 1, 2025 5:58 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
three3d wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..


https://www.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder

I just say look at OKC’s depth chart especially at shooting guard and Lu Dort, Caruso, Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins….. :o

I think OKC is going to wait and see if Giannis wants out then throw all the assets at him.

Somehow the Lakers will get Giannis :lol:
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#205 » by basketballRob » Thu May 1, 2025 6:15 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
three3d wrote:
Skin wrote:What does that mean to you? Which of our defensive players could be traded for offensive players?


Anthony Black lol


yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..
More like Gary Harris and Cole. Cole is a way better defender than Simons.

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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#206 » by three3d » Thu May 1, 2025 6:18 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
three3d wrote:
Anthony Black lol


yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..
More like Gary Harris.

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Gary “Hamstring” Harris has zero trade value lol, but he does have a $7.5M team option next season
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#207 » by basketballRob » Thu May 1, 2025 6:20 pm

three3d wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..
More like Gary Harris.

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Gary “Hamstring” Harris has zero trade value lol, but he does have a $7.5M team option next season
He's a good defender. We'll likely fill his roster with a more offensive minded player.

I guarantee Black won't be traded.

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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#208 » by basketballRob » Thu May 1, 2025 6:22 pm

Cole, Goga, and Jett are all players who couldn't play in the playoffs. Those would be the first players to go combined with draft picks.

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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#209 » by doct3r dr3 » Thu May 1, 2025 6:31 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:VERRY TELLING that when Mosely got asked "Jeff mentioned swap some defense for offense, does that excite you" & before the reporter could even finish Mose said a resounding YES I'm okay with that and a huge laugh/smirk. Have to imagine he's been harping on the need for offensive talent all year long and especially last year.


I've held the view that Mosley starting Cory Joseph and giving Caleb Houstan rotation minutes has been a sort of silent protest of the front office, that the team needs a true PG and some legitimate spot-up shooting.
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#210 » by basketballRob » Thu May 1, 2025 6:51 pm

doct3r dr3 wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:VERRY TELLING that when Mosely got asked "Jeff mentioned swap some defense for offense, does that excite you" & before the reporter could even finish Mose said a resounding YES I'm okay with that and a huge laugh/smirk. Have to imagine he's been harping on the need for offensive talent all year long and especially last year.


I've held the view that Mosley starting Cory Joseph and giving Caleb Houstan rotation minutes has been a sort of silent protest of the front office, that the team needs a true PG and some legitimate spot-up shooting.
He may have been instructed to play the shooters more. They gave Jett a chance for the minutes first, but he wasn't ready. He had some awful sequences.

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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#211 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 1, 2025 7:06 pm

We won't even pick G. Harris team option to lower luxury tax
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#212 » by zaymon » Thu May 1, 2025 7:53 pm

Nothing that suprising to hear. Weltman says about starting to make win now moves when they actually make sense. It could also be year too early but many impatient people including fans, players and agents make it difficult. Remind me when OKC and Celtics started to make real trades and use real assets ?
Narrative that teams will try to squeeze us is also funny becouse every team tries to squeeze every team and we are not even close to being one of the most desperate teams.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#213 » by drsd » Thu May 1, 2025 8:09 pm

basketballRob wrote:Weltman's exit interview.

Read on Twitter
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He couldn't have been more clear; the team will make consolidation moves. It is WIN NOW time.


YES!



And I quote, "clearly we need to get better offensively".


Preach!



EDIT: this interview is the most honest and direct I have ever heard PBO Weltman speak. Fascinating interview.


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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#214 » by KillMonger » Thu May 1, 2025 8:45 pm

they're SAYING the right things.....lets see what they actually DO
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#215 » by Knightro » Thu May 1, 2025 8:55 pm

Read on Twitter



I would be interested in White or Porzingis if they became available. Pritchard too.

Jrue not so purely on age.
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#216 » by basketballRob » Thu May 1, 2025 9:02 pm

Knightro wrote:
Read on Twitter



I would be interested in White or Porzingis if they became available. Pritchard too.

Jrue not so purely on age.
They probably want to move Brown. Houston could have some cap room. It's possible they reunite Brown with Udoka.

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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#217 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu May 1, 2025 9:03 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
three3d wrote:
Anthony Black lol


yeah it's probably Black and Isaac..
More like Gary Harris and Cole. Cole is a way better defender than Simons.

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wrong again :D :D

defensive win shares and Cole gets to play with a defensive minded team and less minutes.

Cole 0.073 in 18.4 minutes
Simons 0.088 in 32.7 minutes
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#218 » by eyriq » Thu May 1, 2025 9:11 pm

Knightro wrote:
Read on Twitter



I would be interested in White or Porzingis if they became available. Pritchard too.

Jrue not so purely on age.
I love the Porzingis idea. Contracts with team options can be traded and Boston gets immediate cap relief by declining the options.
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#219 » by outlawmarx » Fri May 2, 2025 12:56 am

drsd wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Weltman's exit interview.

Read on Twitter
?t=AILsnnSfEbiMplgUJMmDeg&s=19



He couldn't have been more clear; the team will make consolidation moves. It is WIN NOW time.


YES!



And I quote, "clearly we need to get better offensively".


Preach!



EDIT: this interview is the most honest and direct I have ever heard PBO Weltman speak. Fascinating interview.


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Glad it wasn't just me that got my hopes up. Clarifying also the explanation about wanting a rental during the season and that's why they thought the price wasn't right (not that I agree with the "rental" idea).
Also you can feel the tone in all of them was kinda exciting, ready for the WIN NOW!
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Re: Official 2025 Offseason Thread 

Post#220 » by JF5 » Fri May 2, 2025 1:41 am

basketballRob wrote:
three3d wrote:
basketballRob wrote:More like Gary Harris.

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Gary “Hamstring” Harris has zero trade value lol, but he does have a $7.5M team option next season
He's a good defender. We'll likely fill his roster with a more offensive minded player.

I guarantee Black won't be traded.

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I see Black being traded... if he had showcased more playmaking skills i think he would've been off limits. But he has only shown to be defensive player with not much else to offer in other ways. He'd make sense on teams like Chicago or Portland where his mistakes and deficiencies would be overlooked while having more playing time. With this new iteration of the Magic trying to play winning basketball and adding proven vets and play focused/concentrated/complimentary basketball. He doesn't belong on this team.

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