Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 6.0

[AdamTheGreek]

Melton is a fine player, but not really a needle mover in any respect.

He's just a solid role player who, unfortunately, has also had some injury issues over the years.

Back problems are why I would stay away from Melton.

[AdamTheGreek]

Stay far away from D’Angelo Russell. Big empty stats guy (Wolves replaced him with Conley and became great, Lakers are not good because of Russell inspire of LeBron and Davis staying healthy). Not the locker room presence you want from a perceived floor general.

[Knightro]

Latest from Fischer...

Magic up Orlando’s sleeve?

Monk, along with Golden State’s Klay Thomspon, had both been widely rumored as targets for Orlando, with the Magic holding roughly $36 million in cap room. Orlando, sources said, indeed holds intentions of pursuing a veteran guard/wing who can space the floor around Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner, without commanding too much on-ball oxygen. Orlando appears to have an appetite to only offer a short-term deal, similar to the two-year, above-market contract the Magic awarded Joe Ingles a season ago. Orlando could very well exercise the 2024-25 option on Ingles’ deal, sources said, depending on how much room the Magic will need to operate through its overall offseason — with the knowledge that Jalen Suggs is in line for a significant payday before his fourth season in Orlando. How Suggs’ deal compares to Immanuel Quickley’s likely upcoming new agreement with Toronto — and what type of benchmark that could set for Giddey — will all shape another interesting corner of the NBA marketplace.

With that said, let’s say the Magic prove to be open to something similar to Bruce Brown’s contract last summer, when the Pacers inked the former Nuggets swingman to a two-year, $45 million deal, the second season being a team option. That number would be below what Thompson declined from Golden State prior to the 2023-24 campaign, sources said, and would not come close to the four years and $78 million Sacramento plans to give Monk. Thompson is also believed by league sources to want a deal of at least three seasons. Therefore, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope would seem, at present, to be the veteran in line to benefit from the Magic’s cap space. Caldwell-Pope is also believed to have a potential home in Chicago, should the Bulls ultimately lose out on Williams, in addition to Philadelphia viewing the veteran wing as a backup option.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-bulls-roster-shakeup-underway-is-zach-lavine-the-next-piece-on-the-move-150136313.html (free)

[drsd]

Why are Magic fans over thinking this. Look at that smile!

[Rainwater]

I am a bit surprised the Magic (or any other cap space team) wasn’t willing to go past 4/78 for Monk.

looks like Monk just might not have taken meetings with other teams and wanted to stay

Naw, pretty certain his agent did their due diligence and spoke to other teams.

[Knightro]

Fischer basically saying the Magic are only willing to go 1+1 for Klay, but that his salary for next year would almost assuredly be higher than anyone else is offering.

If he won't accept, they would likely pivot to KCP on similar terms.

[cedric76]

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Exactly, he needs to be our 1st signing, go after him while sixers are still trying to land a top fa

4yrs 55 M should be enough

[Rainwater]

Wow, suprising. Thought he (Monk) could get a little more elsewhere.

ORL dodged a bullet.

I am with you on this one. Not sure where the salary projections were coming from. I liked Monk before he signed originally with the Kings, granted I didn’t think last year would happen, it was an impressive year but he’s 26. Not sure how he would be anywhere close to other no defense guys like Simons or Herro, and those guys seem like they are taking up too much cap.

D’Angelo Russell is way more accomplished on offense and is only 2 years older than Monk, and is probably going to cost less than the 18-20% of the cap some of these other guards are making, and his defense isn’t quite as terrible as some of these other guys.

I would stay away from Russell too.

[cedric76]

With Monk gone

I d go for Klay (big 1+1) and Melton (4yr 55M)

Klay just for his mentoring (I want Jett to spend as much time with this 3pt goat and 4x champion)

Draft Carrington (Gleague) and Trade up for Dunn

Suggs,AB,cole
Klay, Melton,Jett
Franz,Jett,Houstan, Dunn
Paolo,moe,JI,Joe,Dunn
WCJ,JI,Goga

[jonbob17]

Fischer basically saying the Magic are only willing to go 1+1 for Klay, but that his salary for next year would almost assuredly be higher than anyone else is offering.

If he won't accept, they would likely pivot to KCP on similar terms.

I am somewhat convinced that Denver extends KCP.

[BlueBalls]

KCP as the “big add” would make me hurl.

This FO is going to do just enough to keep the franchise playoff relevant but never enough to be true contenders. Run it back + KCP = me caring a lot less about the Magic in 2024/25.

[jonbob17]

ORL dodged a bullet.

I am with you on this one. Not sure where the salary projections were coming from. I liked Monk before he signed originally with the Kings, granted I didn’t think last year would happen, it was an impressive year but he’s 26. Not sure how he would be anywhere close to other no defense guys like Simons or Herro, and those guys seem like they are taking up too much cap.

D’Angelo Russell is way more accomplished on offense and is only 2 years older than Monk, and is probably going to cost less than the 18-20% of the cap some of these other guards are making, and his defense isn’t quite as terrible as some of these other guys.

I would stay away from Russell too.

Are any of the names getting kicked around better than Russell?

18pts 6 assists with 3 made threes a game at 42%. Kind of ticks the boxes. Who in this range can beat that, and sure he has his flaws, all the guys in that range do, if they didn’t, 1 they wouldn’t be available and 2 they would probably be maxxed.

[Knightro]

KCP as the “big add” would make me hurl.

This FO is going to do just enough to keep the franchise playoff relevant but never enough to be true contenders. Run it back + KCP = me caring a lot less about the Magic in 2024/25.

KCP is just another role player like Melton. Another good 3&D guy, but not a needle mover.

KCP scored 20+ points just five times all season.

I get that Klay isn't what he once was, but he did score 20+ points 31 times last year. There's just much more game-swinging upside with a guy like Klay.

[fendilim]

Stay far away from D’Angelo Russell. Big empty stats guy (Wolves replaced him with Conley and became great, Lakers are not good because of Russell inspire of LeBron and Davis staying healthy). Not the locker room presence you want from a perceived floor general.

Yep. Guy sucks. He succumbs to pressure.

He doesnt do well when played physically

[eyriq]

All signals are confirming that the Magic front office is firmly in the player development camp still.

Seems like they are looking to add the right garnish to this terrific Lotto Talent dish. Let the lotto talent take us where they can.

Frankly, this is the right approach if you are focused on future value, which we should be I might add. Our core is all 22 years and younger and there just isn't enough space to add another core piece that we haven't already drafted.

[pepe1991]

me watching list of names people throw here.

Just incredible amount of C & D level players, part time starters, very specific & limited role players.

If your masterplan with $35M to spend in free agency is Melton, might as well tell fans to go f*** themselfs .


Magic had 2023-24 season with almost no injuries, matter of fact only big injury helped us ( Fultz) and when Carter was out we played very well with Goga. That gave us 47 wins and first round exit.

If your big addition is one of Sexton/Melton/ KCP or any other player of that caliber, without starting PG in sight, and you have just about average year in terms of injuries, you probably won't even win 47 games again and you will be first round exit again.

Magic need starting level PG. We are not one crappy mid level exception 3& D guy away from being great team. It's just East, and how average eveybody but Celtics are that gives you perception of false quality. I mean, Pacers ended up in ECF , that's how tough it is.

[RichCollab]

All signals are confirming that the Magic front office is firmly in the player development camp still.

Seems like they are looking to add the right garnish to this terrific Lotto Talent dish. Let the lotto talent take us where they can.

Frankly, this is the right approach if you are focused on future value, which we should be I might add. Our core is all 22 years and younger and there just isn't enough space to add another core piece that we haven't already drafted.

Free agents don’t move. These contracts are being signed before we can even talk to them.

Traded are how players move.

[tiderulz]

I am with you on this one. Not sure where the salary projections were coming from. I liked Monk before he signed originally with the Kings, granted I didn’t think last year would happen, it was an impressive year but he’s 26. Not sure how he would be anywhere close to other no defense guys like Simons or Herro, and those guys seem like they are taking up too much cap.

D’Angelo Russell is way more accomplished on offense and is only 2 years older than Monk, and is probably going to cost less than the 18-20% of the cap some of these other guards are making, and his defense isn’t quite as terrible as some of these other guys.

I would stay away from Russell too.

Are any of the names getting kicked around better than Russell?

18pts 6 assists with 3 made threes a game at 42%. Kind of ticks the boxes. Who in this range can beat that, and sure he has his flaws, all the guys in that range do, if they didn’t, 1 they wouldn’t be available and 2 they would probably be maxxed.

have to account for, he will likely be looking for $25mil/yr as he would be turning down $18mil on his final year with LA.

you okay paying that much to him?

[Knightro]

All signals are confirming that the Magic front office is firmly in the player development camp still.

Seems like they are looking to add the right garnish to this terrific Lotto Talent dish. Let the lotto talent take us where they can.

Frankly, this is the right approach if you are focused on future value, which we should be I might add. Our core is all 22 years and younger and there just isn't enough space to add another core piece that we haven't already drafted.

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[tiderulz]

me watching list of names people throw here.

Just incredible amount of C & D level players, part time starters, very specific & limited role players.

If your masterplan with $35M to spend in free agency is Melton, might as well tell fans to go f*** themselfs .


Magic had 2023-24 season with almost no injuries, matter of fact only big injury helped us ( Fultz) and when Carter was out we played very well with Goga. That gave us 47 wins and first round exit.

If your big addition is one of Sexton/Melton/ KCP or any other player of that caliber, without starting PG in sight, and you have just about average year in terms of injuries, you probably won't even win 47 games again and you will be first round exit again.

Magic need starting level PG. We are not one crappy mid level exception 3& D guy away from being great team. It's just East, and how average eveybody but Celtics are that gives you perception of false quality. I mean, Pacers ended up in ECF , that's how tough it is.

ehh, i think Sexton could play starting PG along with Black. maybe more combo guard but not bad enough it would hurt us and he shoots from distance well and can create his own shot. Gone are the days really of a PG that does 10 apg nightly. (Haliburton only one)