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Post#401 » by Bay_Areas_Finest » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:32 am

PimpORL wrote:He's playing alright. He's not even an allstar, while Dwight is a superstar. Dwight is basically our defense and rebounding. It's not even close offensively. Dwight and Rashard both have much higher +/-s than him. Without Hedo, we'd still be pretty good. Without Dwight, this team would be as bad as the Wolves. It's not close.


+/-'s are ridiculous and stupid numbers to go by. With your logic there, you're suggesting Rashard is more valuable than Hedo.

And you can't compare their all-star situations. Two different players at two different positions with much different competition.

As I said, I dont think you can truly judge their effect by stats alone. If Dwight can come farther along offensively, he'll be the easy choice.

Hedo basically carries us in the 4th quarter. Dwight can't be counted on most of the time.


EDIT: This is just my opinion though guys! Not trying to argue or start something, my view on Hedo is just a bit different. I think of him a bit higher in terms of his effect this year.
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Post#402 » by MagicMadness » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:32 am

arroyo wins teh game
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Post#403 » by maginno » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:32 am

or is that a message from Stan to Pat? Hmmm
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Post#404 » by magicman123 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:32 am

maginno wrote:When you are in the press this week saying how hard JJ works in practice and you think about him all the time then have a 20 point lead and you still have in your starters you have to start to wonder if theres some personal reasons.

Still don't believe the conspiracy theories but just saying this is what feeds it.


its annoying, let the kid play, he cant be worse then bogans
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Post#405 » by D12Howard » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:33 am

I will start chipping in money for one of those British Streakers with #7 and Free JJ Painted on his ass to run around and then tea bag Stan
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Post#406 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:33 am

Hey, BAF may be on to something. Every play lately has been a pick & roll for Hedo. Dwight doesn't even get plays run for him anymore.
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Post#407 » by Last Guardian » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:34 am

Unbelievable. Up double digits and the starters finish the game, even though they gave a piss effort for the most part.
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Post#408 » by FFBlitzace » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:34 am

First ever "Fire *coach*!" thread after a win?
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Post#409 » by Typhoon20 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:34 am

Mo Evans has got to be g@y.
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Post#410 » by MagicFan3 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:35 am

Nice game.

Is it me or does Luke Jackson look like a serial killer?
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Post#411 » by SOUL » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:35 am

Solid Snake wrote:Unbelievable. Up double digits and the starters finish the game, even though they gave a piss effort for the most part.


Calm down, jeez.

It's not the end of the world if JJ doesn't play, yes it sucks.. but hes one of many players that hasn't had a fair shake.
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Post#412 » by magicman123 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:35 am

hmmmmm.......arroyo and bogans played a combined 61mins.....some might think we were show casing them, but if it was, it didnt help..4-14
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Post#413 » by Sharper » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:35 am

D12Howard wrote:I hope Arroyo snaps an ACL in the final 2 minutes

No. I hope he DIES. So you can be a happy Magic fan again. :D
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Post#414 » by D12Howard » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:36 am

If there is one thing I hate more than Arroyo, it is the damn Jeep Liberty "Rock Me Gently" commercial that plays every mother f'ing commercial break during every mother f'ing magic game
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Post#415 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:37 am

How long until the media notices the Dwight freeze out on offense and ask Stan about it? I want some answers.
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Post#416 » by LetItRain » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:37 am

MagicFan3 wrote:Nice game.

Is it me or does Luke Jackson look like a serial killer?


He does
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Post#417 » by 1eyedjake » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:37 am

Bay_Areas_Finest wrote:TooNice, there is no "arguably" about it. Dwight is NOT the best center in the league.

-= original quote snipped =-



Considering we dont have a decent PG, do you think we'd have the same record without Hedo's great passing and clutch shooting? And considering he is our most prolific penetrator and really the only starter on our team that can drive and finish (or get fouled), how would Howard be even able to get the ball or for us to win?

And yes, Hedo (when playing at this high level) could be putting up numbers at quite a few places. If anything, I think Lewis has been impacted by Hedo more, and Howard was here last year, and the year before, and the year before. Hedo wasn't playing like this. Maybe he's just grown into this player.

Or it could be a flash in the pan. I'm not denying that.


I'm a big fan of Hedo's and his Scottie Pippen-lite game, and he has been outstanding this year but there is no question that he and his game benefit from the spacing and defensive attention given to Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis. Particularly Howard, though the defense cannot rotate on the wings as quickly with Lewis there and Hedo ably takes advantage of this.
Dwight is the MVP of this team and he should get more touches in a game like this. He needs to learn how to crush teams when they are wounded, because he can do it, though I am grateful for the way Hedo has played.
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Post#418 » by Last Guardian » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:37 am

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Calm down, jeez.

It's not the end of the world if JJ doesn't play, yes it sucks.. but hes one of many players that hasn't had a fair shake.


Up 20, the game is over, and Dwight, Hedo and Rashard are still in. Tell me how that makes any sense to you. Every other team in the league would have rest their starters.

Stan just said how well Redick is playing. Perfect oppurtunity to play him just now. It isn't the end of the world but it doesn't make any sense.

Jeez yourself.
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Post#419 » by D12Howard » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:37 am

[quote="Sharper"]-= original quote snipped =-


No. I hope he DIES. So you can be a happy Magic fan again. :D[/quote]

Damn dude, im not that heartless! A simple career ending injury would suit me just fine!
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Post#420 » by Typhoon20 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:38 am

Up 20 with a couple mins left and coach doesn't rest the big 3 ?
WTF. UNEXPLAINABLE.
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