BaTATAS 1.0: DISCUSSION THREAD 1 - LOCK PLEASE!!!

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #421 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:40 pm

SOUL wrote:also i wish we had more people because the #1 pick really is at an advantage with not having to wait as long between picks, michael jordan and 2 elite players at 40/41 instead of 50/51

but thats not anybodys fault, just saying ;P

Funny how opinions can differ so differently on the same thing. One of the main reasons I closed it down to 20 was because of that same exact reasoning...Teams drafting late have a chance of making a better team if the DON'T have to wait as long (meaning they have a better shot when they can get 20-21 instead of 30-31). A few people brought that up so I went with it. I think this way is better for that reason...more so than the other way around. The quality of players at 20-21 is a good bit different than 30-31.

TDJacksonville · Post #422 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:40 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
Make sure you guys are reading up on how things work. I've gone over this topic now, at least, three times.

As long as a player made an All Star appearance from 1970, all of their years of play are taken in to consideration. Including time in the ABA & overseas...even though those outside leagues don't mean nearly as much as the NBA.

so in essence you can Judge said Players by there prime if they atleast played in 1 allstar game from 1970 to now

Exactly.

probbly should put that in the 1st post so it isnt needed to repeat

Post #423 » by **SOUL** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:42 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
SOUL wrote:also i wish we had more people because the #1 pick really is at an advantage with not having to wait as long between picks, michael jordan and 2 elite players at 40/41 instead of 50/51

but thats not anybodys fault, just saying ;P

Funny how opinions can differ so differently on the same thing. One of the main reasons I closed it down to 20 was because of that same exact reasoning...Teams drafting late have a chance of making a better team if the DON'T have to wait as long (meaning they have a better shot when they can get 20-21 instead of 30-31). A few people brought that up so I went with it. I think this way is better for that reason...more so than the other way around. The quality of players at 20-21 is a good bit different than 30-31.

true, that makes sense as well, although i do think the top 10 is the top 10 regardless, and the 20-30 range isn't as big of a gap, still fun regardless though and with trades / bad picks anything can happen

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #424 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:44 pm

WillyJakkz wrote:That 1970 All Star yr eliminated one of the most integral players in all of NBA history.

What was the idea behind the 1970 date if you don't mind me asking considering ABA and overseas career achievements can be taken into account though you stated it may likely not be as meaningful as the NBA achievements cause that date effectively got rid of perhaps the games ultimate achiever?

1970 sounded like a good year, lol.

However, it did end up with a great number of players in the player pool (if we had had 30 teams)...from 1970 to today, there are 300 eligible players.

You can say his name, not name dropping if you can't draft him. I realized (long) after the fact that it would eliminate Bill Russell but it's just one guy. Not the end of the world...next time around, I'll make sure to adjust it so he can be included. I'll just bump it back to 1969 next time.

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #425 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:47 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:so in essence you can Judge said Players by there prime if they atleast played in 1 allstar game from 1970 to now

Exactly.
probbly should put that in the 1st post so it isnt needed to repeat

Done.

WillyJakkz · Post #426 » by **WillyJakkz** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:53 pm

Fair enough but with all due respect, Bill Russell is more than just one guy.

Alright appreciate the answer man.

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #427 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:05 pm

WillyJakkz wrote:Fair enough but with all due respect, Bill Russell is more than just one guy.

Alright appreciate the answer man.

I didn't mean it like that...obviously he is an all-time great and should be included in something like this. Just saying that I didn't even realize I excluded him until I was making my big board...a little too late to change the rules.

Skin · Post #428 » by **Skin** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:23 pm

Did the next guy get notified?

Grinditout · Post #429 » by **Grinditout** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:33 pm

I'm picking 32nd and I'll be out for a bit. So just in case, I left my draft board with LBP.

Post #430 » by **SOUL** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:35 pm

good luck getting rebounds against the hawks lol

Grinditout · Post #431 » by **Grinditout** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:37 pm

Surprised Dirk dropped to me so I just had to pick him up.

TDJacksonville · Post #432 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:48 pm

Grinditout wrote:Surprised Dirk dropped to me so I just had to pick him up.

not much of a Suprise. hes not a top 30 from the 70s all stars to now.

Post #433 » by **Manhattan Project** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:49 pm

When I saw my pick I wanted a Robinson/Zeke type combo and somehow that turned into Oscar and Baylor, certainly not what I expected at all.

Coaster80 · Post #434 » by **Coaster80** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:50 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Grinditout wrote:Surprised Dirk dropped to me so I just had to pick him up.

not much of a Suprise. hes not a top 30 from the 70s all stars to now.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Btw I'm really liking the Rodman and Dirk picks.

TDJacksonville · Post #435 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:53 pm

Coaster80 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Grinditout wrote:Surprised Dirk dropped to me so I just had to pick him up.

not much of a Suprise. hes not a top 30 from the 70s all stars to now.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Btw I'm really liking the Rodman and Dirk picks.

the only reason i can see dirk going this early is his Ability to be a Stretch 4. wasnt a great defender and not a great rebounder.

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #436 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:55 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Coaster80 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:not much of a Suprise. hes not a top 30 from the 70s all stars to now.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Btw I'm really liking the Rodman and Dirk picks.

the only reason i can see dirk going this early is his Ability to be a Stretch 4. wasnt a great defender and not a great rebounder.

Agreed. I was intrigued with the idea of pairing him next to Hakeem...but with my #46 pick, not my 2nd rounder. Not a bad pick...but maybe a bit of a reach.

TDJacksonville · Post #437 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:56 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Coaster80 wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Btw I'm really liking the Rodman and Dirk picks.

the only reason i can see dirk going this early is his Ability to be a Stretch 4. wasnt a great defender and not a great rebounder.

Agreed. I was intrigued with the idea of pairing him next to Hakeem...but with my #46 pick, not my 2nd rounder. Not a bad pick...but maybe a bit of a reach.

id classify it as a Slight reach.

lilroddyb · Post #438 » by **lilroddyb** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:57 pm

Coaster80 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Grinditout wrote:Surprised Dirk dropped to me so I just had to pick him up.

not much of a Suprise. hes not a top 30 from the 70s all stars to now.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Btw I'm really liking the Rodman and Dirk picks.

I honestly Think Dirk is top 20 player alltime. He has an excellent longevity, probably the best at spreading the floor ever, good defensive rebounder and always raises his game in the playoffs

Coaster80 · Post #439 » by **Coaster80** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:57 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
Coaster80 wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Btw I'm really liking the Rodman and Dirk picks.

the only reason i can see dirk going this early is his Ability to be a Stretch 4. wasnt a great defender and not a great rebounder.

Agreed. I was intrigued with the idea of pairing him next to Hakeem...but with my #46 pick, not my 2nd rounder. Not a bad pick...but maybe a bit of a reach.

Imo Dirk has a strong case for top 20.

He's been the #1 guy on a team who won 50+ games for 10+ seasons in a row. One of the GOAT shooters. MVP, etc..

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #440 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:59 pm

That's what makes this fun. Very unpredictable and there is definitely an argument for any pick.