drsd wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Wait until Arabs figure they like basketball and find out some Joel Embiid is leaving nba in middle of his prime to play for $450 000 000 per season. Pretty much already happened in soccer now.
From player's pov it makes simply no sense to not ask for max if you are max money type player, and even if you are not, you can get one
For example, Franz isn't "max contract" type of player, but most of us are 100% sure he will sign designed max contract in June of 2024. Even if he becomes max contract worthy, he will still stagger our flexibility.
I simply don't get whole scale of nba contracts. Nobody should be making 35% of maximum team has. Etiher remove salary cap all together, or boost salary but in same limit max contracts to 20% of cap.
Lebron and Davis make $87M of projected $136M salary, what's the point? Does limiting teams ability to compete help league? Or parity is just fabricated with terrible conditions players sign players to, and by default, it forces them to tear down rosters after several years because model isn't sustainable? I tend to belive in second.
WIth the coming CBA, essentially all medicore and good teams will have two maxed players, 2 or 3 MLE exepption players, and 10 LLE / rookies. That's just how it is.
THe good news, and the reason 50.1% of the players got behind this new deal: the salary floor is going to explode. From next year, the two-way players are annual millionaires. In a couple years, a player with experience will ALWAYS make at least 3M a year.
So those up-to-ten min guys are all likely to have 10M or more in cumulative NBA salary (three years in the NBA is a pretty standard run). We are talking about a guy like Kevon Harris signing a contract that will pay him this sort of money. Let me say it another way: the 400th best player in the NBA will earn more than 10M in income to be a bench warmer and practice squad guy.
Cris Duhon played in the wrong era!
I don't give a crap how much money players make, only reason why it matters in nba is salary cap.
IF Brown plays in league where salary cap is sub $140M and he makes $60M a year, it means his salary eats 45% of salary cap.
Celtics for 2024-25 season will have $116M invested into 3 players.
Under those contions it's simply impossible to operate. And those conditions might do execlly opposite of what you said.
If you are nba team that knows your star will become $60M a year player, there is good chance that you won't resign
anybody if it's not for very little money. So in near future we might see Suns type buildups. 3-4 elite players and rest of a group made out of minimum salary guys.
We already know Harris & Middelton aren't payed based on fact what they do, but based on fact team's can't afford anybody better. if new CBA was activated under their exstensions, odds are, both would get traded instad of resigned and probably by default would be forced to sign for less ( or enter UFA and make way less ).
Current CBA, to me, makes no sense.
As i was writing this, i went on hoops hype page and Marc Stein reported execlly same thing as i've just typed
: There is already considerable frustration circulating among some NBA players and agents about the new collective bargaining agreement and how it threatens to squeeze the league’s middle class while also shortening deals for numerous players.. Seeing the sorts of figures that are being thrown at athletes in sports that don’t operate with a salary cap is bound to only exacerbate those frustrations.
Middle class of nba will simply disappear. You won't be giving some Wendell Carter $18M deal, you will save every dollar to give Banchero his $50M; so you will rather sign Goga on $5M and save yourself $13M to piss it off on Banchero's bloated contract. So once that same Wendell enters FA, he will NOT be offered $18M deal from anybody, rather $10M and shorter years.
On top of all this, due crazy inflation of stats, every team has "2 max contract " type players, where in reality, only 5-10 nba players should be max contract guys. But teams can't afford to lose players for nothing, especially early in rebuild, so they slap max contract on Ingram, Siakam, Gobert, Lavine , Holiday etc and figure down the line, those players more often than not should be payed 1/3rd of what they are, become untradable, lose value, don't help you win and become unhappy because team stinks. One of reasons why team stinks is- their salary.
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
