Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV, Mods Close))

jezzer45 · Post #81 » by **jezzer45** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:41 am

I just deleted my post 5 different times because I realize that I was just saying the same stuff over and over.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #82 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:43 am

jezzer45 wrote:I just deleted my post 5 different times because I realize that I was just saying the same stuff over and over.

We have all said the same stuff over and over.......and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

rcklsscognition · Post #83 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:44 am

When I entered this thread I'm pretty sure I had 2,800 posts.

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #84 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:46 am

thelead wrote:
SubyWill wrote:I can't believe we've had 14 of these threads since the start of the season.........and absolutely nothing has happened.

what are you talking about? WE GOT ISH SMITH!!!! THE ISH SMITH

Shame he almost never plays

ADRajX · Post #85 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:56 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
thelead wrote:
SubyWill wrote:I can't believe we've had 14 of these threads since the start of the season.........and absolutely nothing has happened.

what are you talking about? WE GOT ISH SMITH!!!! THE ISH SMITH

Shame he almost never plays

And the Bass/Davis|Wafer trade... and the signing of Hughes :lol:

fendilim · Post #86 » by **fendilim** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:11 am

Earl Clark happened too.

Post #87 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:11 am

von wafer ‏ @vonwafer13
On a **** mission I will taste greatness or I'll die trying

thelead · Post #88 » by **thelead** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:13 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
von wafer ‏ @vonwafer13
On a **** mission I will taste greatness or I'll die trying

he's going to die trying playing under Stan :lol:

should we call an ambulance?

InFlames · Post #89 » by **InFlames** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:18 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
von wafer ‏ @vonwafer13
On a **** mission I will taste greatness or I'll die trying

I like this. Really the only gripe I have with Stan is not giving Wafer minutes but that is hard with JRich and JJ here.

Post #90 » by **eyriq** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:19 am

Our primary unit has a +2.78 overall rating and our primary bench unit a -1.65 overall rating. Just to contrast, in '10 our primary unit had a +16.43 overall rating and our ALL bench unit a +15.91 overall rating.

We should have won that year

CPBalla2003 n da 863 · Post #91 » by **CPBalla2003 n da 863** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:22 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
von wafer ‏ @vonwafer13
On a **** mission I will taste greatness or I'll die trying

Dude, Von, i'm sure you can afford Miller Lite.

cb1115 · Post #92 » by **cb1115** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:41 am

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Don't be surprised if the Orlando Magic pursue Josh Smith. They want to make a big move and he's Dwight Howard's best friend in the league.

InFlames · Post #93 » by **InFlames** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:44 am

cb1115 wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Don't be surprised if the Orlando Magic pursue Josh Smith. They want to make a big move and he's Dwight Howard's best friend in the league.

Not gonna happen.

Reverse_Angle · Post #94 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:54 am

eyriq wrote:Our primary unit has a +2.78 overall rating and our primary bench unit a -1.65 overall rating. Just to contrast, in '10 our primary unit had a +16.43 overall rating and our ALL bench unit a +15.91 overall rating.

We should have won that year

that says it right there. something is not right.

Post #95 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:55 am

InFlames wrote:
cb1115 wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Don't be surprised if the Orlando Magic pursue Josh Smith. They want to make a big move and he's Dwight Howard's best friend in the league.

Not gonna happen.

Agreed. There's absolutely no reason for the Hawks to trade their best player (imo). They're playing great basketball right now.

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Dwight Howard and Josh Smith have dreamed of playing together in the NBA since they were kids. I just don't know if Orlando has the assets.

The story of this franchise :noway:

Post #96 » by **Bensational** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:08 am

eyriq wrote:Our primary unit has a +2.78 overall rating and our primary bench unit a -1.65 overall rating. Just to contrast, in '10 our primary unit had a +16.43 overall rating and our ALL bench unit a +15.91 overall rating.

We should have won that year

the primary differences between our team's in 09 and 10?

Dwight/Marcin
Lewis/Battie
Hedo/Pietrus
Lee/JJ
Alston/Nelson

Dwight/Marcin
Lewis/Bass/Anderson
Barnes/Pietrus
Carter/JJ
Nelson/AJ

Dwight
Anderson/BBD
Hedo/Q
JRich/JJ
Nelson/Duhon

the difference is that our current lineup almost has too many options on offense who aren't consistent enough, and we've got no defense.

we were good then, but instead of addressing what was wrong - not having a go to scorer - we watered down what we had and spread it thinner, leaving us with lesser defenders.

i think this team needs some more defense/role players, it needs a distributor at PG, and it needs a bonafide 2nd option. you could probably correct all that with positions 1-3, without having to touch Anderson.

cb1115 · Post #97 » by **cb1115** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:30 am

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Ryan Anderson, J.J. Redick and Jameer Nelson are mediocre assets. They won't yield a star player, which is what Orlando needs.

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
For those saying that Ryan Anderson is a great asset, many executives around the league believe Anderson is a product of Orlando's system.

If true, this might be the nail in our coffin.

Post #98 » by **eyriq** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:32 am

Bensational wrote:...snip...

The '09 primary unit with Rafer had a +3.49 overall rating, not much better than this year's. Of course with Nelson it was a different story, as that unit had a +23.79 overall rating. The primary '09 bench unit is harder to peg down, as there was so much inconsistency in which bench lineup we we went to. Anyway, I think my main point is that the '10 Magic was really much stronger than the '09 team, we just happened to run into a healthy Celtics squad in '10 where as we dodged that in '09.

Edit:

cb1115 wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Ryan Anderson, J.J. Redick and Jameer Nelson are mediocre assets. They won't yield a star player, which is what Orlando needs.

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
For those saying that Ryan Anderson is a great asset, many executives around the league believe Anderson is a product of Orlando's system.

If true, this might be the nail in our coffin.

That doesn't have to be all bad news really, it could mean the market will set Anderson's price much lower than his production would otherwise say.

Darth Magic · Post #99 » by **Darth Magic** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:44 am

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
For those saying that Ryan Anderson is a great asset, many executives around the league believe Anderson is a product of Orlando's system.

Any exec who thinks this simply should not be a GM. Rashard Lewis wasn't a product of our system which is basically the role Ryan is playing currently. Brandon Bass never had the success Ryan Anderson is currently having. Ryan's offensive rebounding is NOT a product of our system. In fact his rebounding numbers overall are hurt because he plays mostly on the perimeter. Once again this just tells me that Hoopsworld peeps are really clueless.

Post #100 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:46 am

Darth Magic wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
For those saying that Ryan Anderson is a great asset, many executives around the league believe Anderson is a product of Orlando's system.

Any exec who thinks this simply should not be a GM. Rashard Lewis wasn't a product of our system which is basically the role Ryan is playing currently. Brandon Bass never had the success Ryan Anderson is currently having. Ryan's offensive rebounding is NOT a product of our system. In fact his rebounding numbers overall are hurt because he plays mostly on the perimeter. Once again this just tells me that Heoopsworld affiliates are really clueless.

Could be that GM's are clueless. I wouldn't mind keeping Ryan and trading Dwight for picks. I just want something good to happen.