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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#821 » by Neon1 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:04 pm

tiderulz wrote:why do people think that Dwight asked for Arenas?? That was all Otis taking care of his "adopted" son.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#822 » by Def Swami » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:05 pm

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/7/16/ ... king-price
Now, this is going off of quite an assumption here, as things like this can easily be photoshopped or forged, but thus far no one is denying the validity of them. But if they are true, one has to wonder how greatly Dwight Howard just dropped his market value to teams like the Rockets who are interested in trading for his services.

The photos are large, so I'll place them after the jump.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#823 » by arkknight1988 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:06 pm

lamb and white would be a good pairing. lamb scores while white dishes.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#824 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:08 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:lamb and white would be a good pairing. lamb scores while white dishes.

mix in Parson who does both and we have a nyce group to develop.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#825 » by Ballah » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:08 pm

To quote some wisdom from fakedwight "Ya'll believe everything you hear".
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#826 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:09 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/7/16/3163395/rumored-dwight-howard-twitter-dm-leaks-drops-asking-price
Now, this is going off of quite an assumption here, as things like this can easily be photoshopped or forged, but thus far no one is denying the validity of them. But if they are true, one has to wonder how greatly Dwight Howard just dropped his market value to teams like the Rockets who are interested in trading for his services.

The photos are large, so I'll place them after the jump.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#827 » by SolidSnake008 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:10 pm

If Dwight's back is really as jacked up as he says then there is a chance that Rob's patient approach might bite him in the you know what......If those DM's are legit then it might change things a bit.....both sides Orlando and Dwight's camp probably loses some leverage because of it....Why would Dwight even DM someone around this time when he's under a microscope? people are saying Dwight isn't as stupid as we're making him out to be....well........maybe.......
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#828 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:12 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/7/16/3163395/rumored-dwight-howard-twitter-dm-leaks-drops-asking-price
Now, this is going off of quite an assumption here, as things like this can easily be photoshopped or forged, but thus far no one is denying the validity of them. But if they are true, one has to wonder how greatly Dwight Howard just dropped his market value to teams like the Rockets who are interested in trading for his services.

The photos are large, so I'll place them after the jump.


This is a huge mess. How can we trade someone who can't run? Like the article says, he'll never clear medical requirements of the trade. I don't think it's even possible Hennigan and the Magic are so dumb that they never asked the doctor how Dwight's back is. If they hadn't, Henny said it was fine last week in an interview. If that's true, and he is in active trade talks, is he trying to get teams to waive the medical check and just assume Howard is fine?
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Post#829 » by Magic#1 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:14 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:http://www.clickorlando.com/sports/Dwight-Howard-asks-reps-to-keep-dad-out-of-trade-talks/-/1636890/15565642/-/utuk21/-/index.html
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Sources tell Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore that Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard has asked his representation to keep his father out of trade talks.

It's believed Howard's father played a major role in Howard signing a contract extension with the Magic in March.

Howard has already asked the Magic to trade him, preferably to the Brooklyn Nets. Trade talks reportedly broke down last week.

On Friday, Local 6 reported that Howard would likely end up with the Los Angeles Lakers.

Sources told Pingalore it has been weeks since Howard and his father have spoken.

Meantime, GM Rob Hennigan and his staff are on their way to Las Vegas, where the NBA is holding summer league games.

It's unclear what the trip will involved.

Rockets??!!

If this Ping report is true, that is horrendous. Who knows if it is. But, if true, Dwight has seriously gone off the deep end. I still want him gone, but it's sad for a human being to become this delusional.
Also, are those tweets true? Been hard to figure out if it's true through this thread. Any official announcement from the person who Dwight allegedly DMed?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#830 » by OrlandO » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:14 pm

People still think we have unlimited time to wait? lol
Not only are our trading partners getting rid of assets and losing financial flexibility, but we also have Dwight continuously trying to screw us over. His value will drop. I think everyone is forgetting how desperate everyone was around here near the trade deadline before Dwight "changed his mind."
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#831 » by InFlames » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:16 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/7/16/3163395/rumored-dwight-howard-twitter-dm-leaks-drops-asking-price
Now, this is going off of quite an assumption here, as things like this can easily be photoshopped or forged, but thus far no one is denying the validity of them. But if they are true, one has to wonder how greatly Dwight Howard just dropped his market value to teams like the Rockets who are interested in trading for his services.

The photos are large, so I'll place them after the jump.


This is a huge mess. How can we trade someone who can't run? Like the article says, he'll never clear medical requirements of the trade. I don't think it's even possible Hennigan and the Magic are so dumb that they never asked the doctor how Dwight's back is. If they hadn't, Henny said it was fine last week in an interview. If that's true, and he is in active trade talks, is he trying to get teams to waive the medical check and just assume Howard is fine?


Of course the Magic have been in contact with his back doctor.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#832 » by CraZyPraiZ » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:16 pm

Ping on the radio in LA. Says his sources have it at 85% Dwight going to LA. Multiple team trade. Cleveland backed out again on Saturday..... We'll see.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#833 » by Def Swami » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:17 pm

CraZyPraiZ wrote:Ping on the radio in LA. Says his sources have it at 85% Dwight going to LA. Multiple team trade. Cleveland backed out again on Saturday..... We'll see.

I remember when there was a 90% chance he was going to the Nets
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#834 » by arkknight1988 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:19 pm

royce white 10 rebs 5 assists. can't stand watching these rookies knowing dwight is killing his trade value
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#835 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:22 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:royce white 10 rebs 5 assists. can't stand watching these rookies knowing dwight is killing his trade value

love his unselfishness.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#836 » by Bensational » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:23 pm

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my time frame goes back to the point when Dwight started publicly saying he was going to make sure we made changes - after the round one knockout by the Hawks.

i don't think the VC trade/ matching JJ and Gortat were the result of any demand from Dwight, they were done so from the demand of common sense, considering we'd just come off a finals run and if Otis had let the team fall apart it would have been inexcusable.

the Arenas trade was probably a result of a demand from Dwight, but that doesn't mean you draw the line there. Otis shouldn't need Dwight going to him, telling him the team's not working and that we need to make changes and improvements. the fact that Otis held steadfast with his roster last season was enough indication that he thought he'd put together a winner. i don't understand how anybody could defend that, or pretend we did enough last season to try and suggest we made changes.


You cant possibly believe that we didn't try to make changes last season.

Our superstar had asked for them, and we knew that if there was ever a time to make them, it was then. Of course we tried, the reality is we couldn't get anything done, just didn't have the assets. It takes two teams to make a trade. If you honestly think the Magic purposefully didn't try to make any trades you just aren't thinking logically.


of course they tried. but how serious were they about making changes? not serious enough to actually make them.

i think the Magic were more preoccupied with dealing with whether or not they'd trade Dwight, rather than making other trades. i also think we had a GM in place who thought he'd put a winner on the court and didn't feel pressured to make moves, and wasn't going to be pressured by his star player to make moves. it all comes back to arrogance with the Magic FO.

do you want to assume the Magic did everything within their power to keep Dwight happy and keep this team successful? c'mon now...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#837 » by Darth Magic » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:23 pm

Remember when we said Rockets added Big Baby, Duhon, Dwight, JRich and Hedo? Well, they have since followed Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin. #Justsaying
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#838 » by timgator » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:24 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/7/16/3163395/rumored-dwight-howard-twitter-dm-leaks-drops-asking-price
Now, this is going off of quite an assumption here, as things like this can easily be photoshopped or forged, but thus far no one is denying the validity of them. But if they are true, one has to wonder how greatly Dwight Howard just dropped his market value to teams like the Rockets who are interested in trading for his services.

The photos are large, so I'll place them after the jump.

Thinking realistically, does anyone really think that any team, including Houston, would agree to a trade without even knowing that Dwight can't even run yet? There is just no situation that I could reasonably imagine where a team would forgo a medical evaluation on a player who is recovering from a serious back injury prior to agreeing to a trade. I can't even see any team getting into any type of negotiation without looking into this first. I'm not saying that it's untrue that he can't run yet, I'm just guessing that any team interested in trading for him probably already knows he can't run yet. So I just don't see this as a big deal to anyone except people like us who are not involved in the actual talks.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#839 » by cb1115 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:26 pm

At this point, it almost feels like the Magic and Dwight are made for each other.

Both have made their fair share of screw-ups over the last 2 years and now they need to start fresh. And that's kind of hard to do via trade since both sides don't really have much leverage anymore. Couple that with the fact that Dwight's back might be worse than expected and that he might need to start looking for long-term financial security.

There's no way in hell it happens, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Dwight ends up signing an extension with us.

Just thinking out loud over here.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#840 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:27 pm

timgator wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/7/16/3163395/rumored-dwight-howard-twitter-dm-leaks-drops-asking-price
Now, this is going off of quite an assumption here, as things like this can easily be photoshopped or forged, but thus far no one is denying the validity of them. But if they are true, one has to wonder how greatly Dwight Howard just dropped his market value to teams like the Rockets who are interested in trading for his services.

The photos are large, so I'll place them after the jump.

Thinking realistically, does anyone really think that any team, including Houston, would agree to a trade without even knowing that Dwight can't even run yet? There is just no situation that I could reasonably imagine where a team would forgo a medical evaluation on a player who is recovering from a serious back injury prior to agreeing to a trade. I can't even see any team getting into any type of negotiation without looking into this first. I'm not saying that it's untrue that he can't run yet, I'm just guessing that any team interested in trading for him probably already knows he can't run yet. So I just don't see this as a big deal to anyone except people like us who are not involved in the actual talks.


I touched on that earlier and if the DMs are true, Dwight is probably countering Hennigan saying last week that Dwight's back was fine. What is the motive? No idea. Maybe he doesn't want to be moved and would rather sit out until Brooklyn is back in the mix. Maybe he wants to screw over the Magic, sit out next season, and just walk.

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