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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#281 » by Def Swami » Sat May 4, 2019 9:52 pm

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tiderulz wrote:first - 36 games is not "he didnt even play this season". if you want to say he didnt play a full season, say that. Dont try and make it sound worse than it actually was.

second - are you saying that Dipo is not a better player than Vuc?

Oladipo was not a better player than Vucevic this year, even in all the games that he did play.


The statistics disagree with you. Go look: http://bkref.com/tiny/sTcse

Oladipo was having a bad year, most of it related to injury that eventually ended his season.

I think you mis-read the post. I agree that Vucevic was better than Oladipo last season.
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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#282 » by tiderulz » Sat May 4, 2019 10:06 pm

Def Swami wrote:
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Def Swami wrote:Oladipo was not a better player than Vucevic this year, even in all the games that he did play.


The statistics disagree with you. Go look: http://bkref.com/tiny/sTcse

Oladipo was having a bad year, most of it related to injury that eventually ended his season.

I think you mis-read the post. I agree that Vucevic was better than Oladipo last season.

so take Dipo out. still dont agree that Vuc is a top-15 player
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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#283 » by Skin » Sat May 4, 2019 10:44 pm

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Again ( and again, and again, and again.....) Magic will have same amount of money to spend on free agents with or without Vučević.

This is the problem when fans get a hold of the books. Everything is short sighted. Yes, with or without Vuc, the Magic have the same amount to spend THIS offseason. But what about next offseason, or the season after that or the season after that or who knows how long his deal will be... There are repercussion for signing Vuc to a huge deal that go beyond just THIS offseason.

If his contract is so big that he becomes untradeable, then that is a bad deal for us that will set us back another half a decade.


Except that they don't. I don't know why pepe keeps saying this. It is incorrect.

So what is the truth about our cap space?
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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#284 » by pepe1991 » Sat May 4, 2019 11:20 pm

Guys.... we are 2 months away from free agency... It's too early for all this
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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#285 » by Xatticus » Sun May 5, 2019 2:33 am

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Skin wrote:This is the problem when fans get a hold of the books. Everything is short sighted. Yes, with or without Vuc, the Magic have the same amount to spend THIS offseason. But what about next offseason, or the season after that or the season after that or who knows how long his deal will be... There are repercussion for signing Vuc to a huge deal that go beyond just THIS offseason.

If his contract is so big that he becomes untradeable, then that is a bad deal for us that will set us back another half a decade.


Except that they don't. I don't know why pepe keeps saying this. It is incorrect.

So what is the truth about our cap space?


If we renounced everyone (which is very unlikely), we would have roughly $85 million in committed salary against a cap that is estimated at $109 million next year. There are some additional placeholders that eat up another $5 million or so (draft picks and empty roster spots); which puts us somewhere south of $20 million in available cap space.

Cap holds are contract estimates that act as placeholders for players that are either restricted or for which the team holds their bird rights. Every player that isn't renounced (Birch, Ross, Vucevic, etc...) eats away at that available space. The cap holds for Vucevic and Ross account for almost $35 million. Without renouncing them, we are well over the cap and have no available cap space. Additionally, if we choose to re-sign them for sums that exceed the salary cap, that will eat away at next year's cap space that would otherwise be freed up by the expirations of the contracts of Mozgov and Augustin.
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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#286 » by ezzzp » Mon May 6, 2019 5:57 pm

This is a really easy tool for salary cap and contracts:

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator
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Re: The Future is bright 

Post#287 » by NotACat » Mon May 6, 2019 9:38 pm

ezzzp wrote:This is a really easy tool for salary cap and contracts:

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator

The bball reference contracts page is also a good resource https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/ORL.html

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