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Re: D'Lo Watch: All things D'Lo related 

Post#221 » by j-ragg » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:26 pm

Eh. Not sure how much it changes. I think Kyrie was only going to maybe not go to Brooklyn if the Knicks traded for AD. He wants to be in NY, I think it's just a matter of which situation is better. Which is almsot always not the Knicks.
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Post#222 » by MoMM » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:05 pm

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Bensational wrote:AD traded. The big dominoes are starting to fall.

The Pels should try to clear some space to make a run at D'Lo. He seems like a perfect fit for that team.


Eh.

Ball
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Randle

Seems legit already, tbh.


D'Lo/Ball
Jrue/Hart
Ingram
Zion
Randle

+ Garland/White/Culver/Hunter

Part of me would love that they're basically the Lakers rebuild through the draft if this happened, sans Kuzma

That backcourt would be strong. D'Lo would be a massive upgrade over Lonzo, and a perfect compliment to Zion's game. The front court would be interesting, with two bulldozing offensive bigs with similar squat and bulky frames. Then Ingram, the long and lanky SF who does a bit of it all on both ends of the court.

They're all very good/great passers and capable/good individual playmakers, too. Plenty of poor shot choices in there, too, between Randle and Russell. But if it worked...?

I'd try to trade Ball to Phoenix as soon as possible and keep Payton as backup PG.
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Post#223 » by Nyce_1 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:01 pm

I think DLo ends up in Indy or Phx.
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Post#224 » by Magic#1 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:16 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:I think DLo ends up in Indy or Phx.

If Phoenix offers him max money, I would have a very hard time turning that down if I'm him. He'd still get the ball a ton but wouldn't have the pressure to be "the guy" and wouldn't get all the blame if they falter. Booker, Ayton, D-Lo and their other pieces could develop into something really friggin' good. I'm hopeful we got a shot, but there are probably more intriguing opportunities for him elsewhere unless he really wants to be the undisputed No. 1 option and "the guy."
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Post#225 » by AshBlackstone » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:57 am

He will get a ton of offers. Our chances of landing him are small.
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Post#226 » by Papi_swav » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:55 am

I hope DLo stays here, I think the only way he's gone is if Nets get 2 max guys or if they S&T him. If we don't get the 2nd star player than I can't see the Nets not matching any offer for him. What would you guys trade if Nets agreed to a S&T?
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Post#227 » by Skin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:58 am

Papi_swav wrote:I hope DLo stays here, I think the only way he's gone is if Nets get 2 max guys or if they S&T him. If we don't get the 2nd star player than I can't see the Nets not matching any offer for him. What would you guys trade if Nets agreed to a S&T?

Evan Fournier sound good? Fultz?

Isaac, Gordon and Bamba are probably not realistic.
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Post#228 » by Papi_swav » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:02 am

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Papi_swav wrote:I hope DLo stays here, I think the only way he's gone is if Nets get 2 max guys or if they S&T him. If we don't get the 2nd star player than I can't see the Nets not matching any offer for him. What would you guys trade if Nets agreed to a S&T?

Evan Fournier sound good? Fultz?

Isaac, Gordon and Bamba are probably not realistic.

Would really really love a DLo for Gordon swap but yea might not be realistic. I highly doubt Nets use their cap space on Fournier or Fultz... this will be tough. Personally I would rather keep DLo to go with Kyrie.
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Post#229 » by Skin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:07 am

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Nyce_1 wrote:I think DLo ends up in Indy or Phx.

If Phoenix offers him max money, I would have a very hard time turning that down if I'm him. He'd still get the ball a ton but wouldn't have the pressure to be "the guy" and wouldn't get all the blame if they falter. Booker, Ayton, D-Lo and their other pieces could develop into something really friggin' good. I'm hopeful we got a shot, but there are probably more intriguing opportunities for him elsewhere unless he really wants to be the undisputed No. 1 option and "the guy."

With the draft coming before FA can Phx really make the gamble and pass on Garland or White in the draft with the intention of chasing DLo?

I have doubts about that. So if they draft a PG, DLo won't be a target for them and he probably won't want to go there.

Indy is probably a spot but I don't think the duo of DLo and Dipo are a good fit.

Orlando is his best spot if he leaves NJ... but I still don't think he finds his way here.
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Post#230 » by Skin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:09 am

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Papi_swav wrote:I hope DLo stays here, I think the only way he's gone is if Nets get 2 max guys or if they S&T him. If we don't get the 2nd star player than I can't see the Nets not matching any offer for him. What would you guys trade if Nets agreed to a S&T?

Evan Fournier sound good? Fultz?

Isaac, Gordon and Bamba are probably not realistic.

Would really really love a DLo for Gordon swap but yea might not be realistic. I highly doubt Nets use their cap space on Fournier or Fultz... this will be tough. Personally I would rather keep DLo to go with Kyrie.

Yeah I think it's the Nets plans to keep both.

I don't recall the last time there was a S&T involving a RFA and the outgoing team got a great return.
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Post#231 » by drsd » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:47 am

Skin wrote:With the draft coming before FA can Phx really make the gamble and pass on Garland or White in the draft with the intention of chasing DLo?


Just draft one, and trade their rights if Russell were to be signed.

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Post#232 » by Skin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:45 pm

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Skin wrote:With the draft coming before FA can Phx really make the gamble and pass on Garland or White in the draft with the intention of chasing DLo?


Just draft one, and trade their rights if Russell were to be signed.

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That's sounds like very slim odds.

I think PHX would be content at PG if they drafted one and DLo would be looking elsewhere...

Honestly, I think Boston might end up replacing Kyrie with DLo in some form of S&T between them.
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Post#233 » by j-ragg » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:09 pm

Skin wrote:
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Skin wrote:With the draft coming before FA can Phx really make the gamble and pass on Garland or White in the draft with the intention of chasing DLo?


Just draft one, and trade their rights if Russell were to be signed.

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That's sounds like very slim odds.

I think PHX would be content at PG if they drafted one and DLo would be looking elsewhere...

Honestly, I think Boston might end up replacing Kyrie with DLo in some form of S&T between them.

I think it would hard cap both teams, don’t see any way it happens. I think Boston runs it back with Rozier (maybe on the qo?) and hopes to recreate that playoff run they had over a full season when the young guys were going off.
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Post#234 » by drsd » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:24 pm

Skin wrote:Honestly, I think Boston might end up replacing Kyrie with DLo in some form of S&T between them.


Russell replacing Irving might make the Celts a longer-term dominant force in the East.

If I were to care about Boston, this possibility would excite me.


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Post#235 » by Skin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:57 pm

j-ragg wrote:
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Just draft one, and trade their rights if Russell were to be signed.

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That's sounds like very slim odds.

I think PHX would be content at PG if they drafted one and DLo would be looking elsewhere...

Honestly, I think Boston might end up replacing Kyrie with DLo in some form of S&T between them.

I think it would hard cap both teams, don’t see any way it happens. I think Boston runs it back with Rozier (maybe on the qo?) and hopes to recreate that playoff run they had over a full season when the young guys were going off.

I don't know their cap situations but that doesn't sound right.
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Post#236 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:36 pm

Skin wrote:
j-ragg wrote:
Skin wrote:That's sounds like very slim odds.

I think PHX would be content at PG if they drafted one and DLo would be looking elsewhere...

Honestly, I think Boston might end up replacing Kyrie with DLo in some form of S&T between them.

I think it would hard cap both teams, don’t see any way it happens. I think Boston runs it back with Rozier (maybe on the qo?) and hopes to recreate that playoff run they had over a full season when the young guys were going off.

I don't know their cap situations but that doesn't sound right.


Boston would need to have AL Horford to opt out to have any cap space.

Think DLo has 3-4 teams who could make it happen : Utah, Indy Orlando Suns Brooklyn and I have them in that order of likeliest to least.

Utah has 14M in Cap Space after renouncing Rubio, Thabo, Ekpe and 2 other bums. They could create more by waiving Favors 16.9M 0$0 non guaranteed and Korver's $7.4 only $3.4M guarenteed deal. Would get them to 34M of open space.

Indy - Has some solid cap hits 20M Thad young, 15M Cory Joseph, 14.8M Tyreke Evans, Bogdanovic 13.6M and Darren Collison 13M. Pick 2 or 3 and renounce and you've got the 28-30M room for DLo.

Orlando- Would have to renounce Vuc + TRoss + Martin + Grant to get to 17M, then could waive and stretch Moz to get to 27M.

Suns - Would need Tyler Johnson to decline 19.2 M player option, renounce Oubre, Bender, Daniels, Holmes and Crawford.

Brooklyn- Grab Kyrie and re sign DLo... seems extremely unlikely.
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Post#237 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:38 pm

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Brooklyn related news... unreal what they've been able to do over the last 3 years.
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Post#238 » by magicman112 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:43 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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Brooklyn related news... unreal what they've been able to do over the last 3 years.


Yes they've come a long way from gambling their future on older vets until now being in position to get some star players.
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Post#239 » by Skin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:46 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
Skin wrote:
j-ragg wrote:I think it would hard cap both teams, don’t see any way it happens. I think Boston runs it back with Rozier (maybe on the qo?) and hopes to recreate that playoff run they had over a full season when the young guys were going off.

I don't know their cap situations but that doesn't sound right.


Boston would need to have AL Horford to opt out to have any cap space.

Think DLo has 3-4 teams who could make it happen : Utah, Indy Orlando Suns Brooklyn and I have them in that order of likeliest to least.

Utah has 14M in Cap Space after renouncing Rubio, Thabo, Ekpe and 2 other bums. They could create more by waiving Favors 16.9M 0$0 non guaranteed and Korver's $7.4 only $3.4M guarenteed deal. Would get them to 34M of open space.

Indy - Has some solid cap hits 20M Thad young, 15M Cory Joseph, 14.8M Tyreke Evans, Bogdanovic 13.6M and Darren Collison 13M. Pick 2 or 3 and renounce and you've got the 28-30M room for DLo.

Orlando- Would have to renounce Vuc + TRoss + Martin + Grant to get to 17M, then could waive and stretch Moz to get to 27M.

Suns - Would need Tyler Johnson to decline 19.2 M player option, renounce Oubre, Bender, Daniels, Holmes and Crawford.

Brooklyn- Grab Kyrie and re sign DLo... seems extremely unlikely.

That's an awesome summary!

But by doing a S&T w/BRK, couldn't BOS go over their cap to sign him using his Bird Rights? Both Kyrie and DLo would get the most they could get in that scenario.

$27M doesn't sound like enough for us to compete for him. As much as people say players look for playing time, winning, fit... they still choose money over all when coming out of their rookie deals.

I hope Utah ends up with Conley... they have been linked. DLo w/Dipo could either be like Lillard/McCollum or be a total misfit. Suns are probably drafting a PG, plus they will be using a big chunk of change on Oubre. Don't count out Brooklyn.

If CHI drafts Garland or White, I would check on the availability of Kris Dunn.
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Post#240 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:48 pm

Papi_swav wrote:I hope DLo stays here, I think the only way he's gone is if Nets get 2 max guys or if they S&T him. If we don't get the 2nd star player than I can't see the Nets not matching any offer for him. What would you guys trade if Nets agreed to a S&T?
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