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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread Part 2 

Post#1 » by Magicfanatic82 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:36 am

Here is a recap of whats going on

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Draft prospect Killian Hayes has worked out for the Magic, league sources tell Mike Vorkunov of The Athletic.


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Re: Official Magic NBA Draft 2020 part 2 

Post#2 » by MasterGMer » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:44 am

This is going to be an exciting week. Can't wait...
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Re: Official Magic NBA Draft 2020 part 2 

Post#3 » by Nyce_1 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:55 am

hypothetical sceniaro: what if Mo is still dealing with serious COVID issues, and his career is potentially done. Does that alter who you like in the draft? Do you consider a big with our pick?
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Post#4 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:59 am

Nyce_1 wrote:hypothetical sceniaro: what if Mo is still dealing with serious COVID issues, and his career is potentially done. Does that alter who you like in the draft? Do you consider a big with our pick?


Nope.. cuz we have vuc and birch
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Post#5 » by Xatticus » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:18 am

Nyce_1 wrote:hypothetical sceniaro: what if Mo is still dealing with serious COVID issues, and his career is potentially done. Does that alter who you like in the draft? Do you consider a big with our pick?


Not with our first pick. I wouldn’t mind snagging someone at 45. It shouldn’t be hard to find someone better than Birch. Tillman is probably better right now. I’d rather our 3rd center have more positional versatility than Birch does.
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Re: Official Magic NBA Draft 2020 part 2 

Post#6 » by Skin » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:48 am

Nyce_1 wrote:hypothetical sceniaro: what if Mo is still dealing with serious COVID issues, and his career is potentially done. Does that alter who you like in the draft? Do you consider a big with our pick?

I don't care. I'm hanging on until I know for sure what he's capable of. I'd have to be blown away.
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Re: Official Magic NBA Draft 2020 part 2 

Post#7 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:57 am

Skin wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:hypothetical sceniaro: what if Mo is still dealing with serious COVID issues, and his career is potentially done. Does that alter who you like in the draft? Do you consider a big with our pick?

I don't care. I'm hanging on until I know for sure what he's capable of. I'd have to be blown away.


I think nyce meant Bamba would be forced to retire and NOT us trading him. So yeah.. we wont be able yo see what he is capable of because in that svenario Bamba is done with pro ball for good.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread Part 2 

Post#8 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:35 am

Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

Looking at the rankings
If I remember correctly,

isaac was number 3 in WARP for his draft class
Bamba was 7 (MPJ and Mikal were ahead of him though)
Okeke was number 2 in his draft class.


Isaac. 3rd in warp. 2.5

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/6hgfsc/peltons_ranking_of_the_best_prospects_in_this/


Bamba. 2.5 WARP:
viewtopic.php?t=1677563&start=1680#p66765255


Okeke 2.6 warp
2nd highest

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi0wPCSwoHtAhX1zIsBHXhrAMQQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FNBA_Draft%2Fcomments%2Fc0rc5f%2Fwhy_is_chuma_okeke_not_projected_in_the_top_10%2F&usg=AOvVaw0oxqgdRlEoJxjc9FPR6k--


This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects
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Post#9 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:35 am

So according to all rumors we interview PGs only.
Maybe front office figured you can't build team around guards who can't shoot pass 10 feet?
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Post#10 » by Skin » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:33 am

fendilim wrote:Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

Looking at the rankings
If I remember correctly,

isaac was number 3 in WARP for his draft class
Bamba was 7 (MPJ and Mikal were ahead of him though)
Okeke was number 2 in his draft class.


Isaac. 3rd in warp. 2.5

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/6hgfsc/peltons_ranking_of_the_best_prospects_in_this/


Bamba. 2.5 WARP:
viewtopic.php?t=1677563&start=1680#p66765255


Okeke 2.6 warp
2nd highest

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi0wPCSwoHtAhX1zIsBHXhrAMQQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FNBA_Draft%2Fcomments%2Fc0rc5f%2Fwhy_is_chuma_okeke_not_projected_in_the_top_10%2F&usg=AOvVaw0oxqgdRlEoJxjc9FPR6k--


This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects

I don't agree with his rankings, but I like them just because they are different.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread Part 2 

Post#11 » by basketballRob » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:13 am

Looks like we haven't worked out Haliburton, so he must be our target.

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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread Part 2 

Post#12 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:52 am

Skin wrote:
fendilim wrote:Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

Looking at the rankings
If I remember correctly,

isaac was number 3 in WARP for his draft class
Bamba was 7 (MPJ and Mikal were ahead of him though)
Okeke was number 2 in his draft class.


Isaac. 3rd in warp. 2.5

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/6hgfsc/peltons_ranking_of_the_best_prospects_in_this/


Bamba. 2.5 WARP:
viewtopic.php?t=1677563&start=1680#p66765255


Okeke 2.6 warp
2nd highest

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi0wPCSwoHtAhX1zIsBHXhrAMQQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FNBA_Draft%2Fcomments%2Fc0rc5f%2Fwhy_is_chuma_okeke_not_projected_in_the_top_10%2F&usg=AOvVaw0oxqgdRlEoJxjc9FPR6k--


This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects

I don't agree with his rankings, but I like them just because they are different.
it is based on advanced stats. And i think that’s the direction weham have been doing for a while now.
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Post#13 » by Bensational » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:12 am

fendilim wrote:Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

Looking at the rankings
If I remember correctly,

isaac was number 3 in WARP for his draft class
Bamba was 7 (MPJ and Mikal were ahead of him though)
Okeke was number 2 in his draft class.


Isaac. 3rd in warp. 2.5

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/6hgfsc/peltons_ranking_of_the_best_prospects_in_this/


Bamba. 2.5 WARP:
viewtopic.php?t=1677563&start=1680#p66765255


Okeke 2.6 warp
2nd highest

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi0wPCSwoHtAhX1zIsBHXhrAMQQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FNBA_Draft%2Fcomments%2Fc0rc5f%2Fwhy_is_chuma_okeke_not_projected_in_the_top_10%2F&usg=AOvVaw0oxqgdRlEoJxjc9FPR6k--


This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects


Great find, that looks scary accurate!
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread Part 2 

Post#14 » by zaymon » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:40 pm

fendilim wrote:
Skin wrote:
fendilim wrote:Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

Looking at the rankings
If I remember correctly,

isaac was number 3 in WARP for his draft class
Bamba was 7 (MPJ and Mikal were ahead of him though)
Okeke was number 2 in his draft class.


Isaac. 3rd in warp. 2.5

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/6hgfsc/peltons_ranking_of_the_best_prospects_in_this/


Bamba. 2.5 WARP:
viewtopic.php?t=1677563&start=1680#p66765255


Okeke 2.6 warp
2nd highest

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi0wPCSwoHtAhX1zIsBHXhrAMQQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FNBA_Draft%2Fcomments%2Fc0rc5f%2Fwhy_is_chuma_okeke_not_projected_in_the_top_10%2F&usg=AOvVaw0oxqgdRlEoJxjc9FPR6k--


This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects

I don't agree with his rankings, but I like them just because they are different.
it is based on advanced stats. And i think that’s the direction weham have been doing for a while now.


I like this aproach a lot more than what teams like Minnesota, Cleveland or other rebuilding teams are doing. We at least have a direction. Everyone laughs at us, but its not only length, advanced stats are not from thin air. Its easy to write us off, but this year we played without all our first round selections under Weltman in post season.
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Post#15 » by jonbob17 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:40 pm

So Cole Anthony or RJ Hampton? One fits the Hammond archetype more than the other. I am good with it.
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Post#16 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:09 pm

2017 draft is complete disaster within top 12 picks for most teams.

Magic ended up with Isaac and they can be happy. Probably magic and Knicks are only teams that got any value for position where they drafted. And ofc Celtics. Freaking Danny Ainge...
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Post#17 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:20 pm

jonbob17 wrote:So Cole Anthony or RJ Hampton? One fits the Hammond archetype more than the other. I am good with it.


I would be furious if we selected either of them at #15.
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Post#18 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:23 pm

fendilim wrote:Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects


Rolling with this idea for a minute.

It’s hard not to think Haliburton is the target for our AG + #15 trade up agenda.
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Post#19 » by ucfmay2000 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:24 pm

pepe1991 wrote:So according to all rumors we interview PGs only.
Maybe front office figured you can't build team around guards who can't shoot pass 10 feet?

If I remember correctly, magic didn’t draft any player who interviewed or worked out for them. Issac in 2017, bamba 2018 and Okeke 2019.

Don’t really count on who work out for them.
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Post#20 » by zaymon » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:46 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
fendilim wrote:Actually think Kevin Pelton’s WARP rankings holds high for WeHam.

This year:
https://www.espn.co.uk/basketball/story/_/id/30302076/ranking-top-30-nba-prospects


Rolling with this idea for a minute.

It’s hard not to think Haliburton is the target for our AG + #15 trade up agenda.


I dont know how Haliburton would succed in Cliffords inside-outside offense. Player with similar projected role last year was NAW and we literally made a smokescreen out of him. We doesnt seem high on guards who cant get to the rim. I would pick Hayes, Vassell and Okoro before Haliburton.
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