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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#21 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:28 pm

Sixerscan wrote:He’ll be the 2nd leading scorer on the team. Post trade Harden was at 21 ppg Maxey was at 18.7, expect those to flip.

Expecting that 3P% to come back down to earth a bit though.


I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#22 » by Sixerscan » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:36 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:He’ll be the 2nd leading scorer on the team. Post trade Harden was at 21 ppg Maxey was at 18.7, expect those to flip.

Expecting that 3P% to come back down to earth a bit though.



Hmmm, you think Harden is going to only average 18.7 in his comeback year? I like what you said about Maxey, but unless Harden is super efficient with that 18.7, I'm not sure that'll be enough.

Didn’t really mean it that way, but there’s only so many possessions and shots. If someone’s share goes up someone’s goes down. Look at how Jrue’s ppg went down going to Milwaukee. How efficient the offense is is more important than individual numbers, I think James will take more of a playmaking role this year. May still average 20+ idk.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#23 » by the_process » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:41 pm

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Sixerscan wrote:He’ll be the 2nd leading scorer on the team. Post trade Harden was at 21 ppg Maxey was at 18.7, expect those to flip.

Expecting that 3P% to come back down to earth a bit though.


I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.


Harden+Embiid+Maxey= 70 PPG = Top 5 Offense

Maxey needs to carry a much more significant share of the scoring load.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#24 » by HardenGoat » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:53 pm

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Jailblazers7 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:He’ll be the 2nd leading scorer on the team. Post trade Harden was at 21 ppg Maxey was at 18.7, expect those to flip.

Expecting that 3P% to come back down to earth a bit though.


I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.


Harden+Embiid+Maxey= 70 PPG = Top 5 Offense

Maxey needs to carry a much more significant share of the scoring load.

That would be a legit big 3 offensive output. Add the defensive improvements and it starts giving a picture on what we might actually have here :peace:
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Post#25 » by Negrodamus » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:07 pm

I'll go regression on points, slight bump in assists. I don't really care if he doesn't score as much as long as he gets to the line more. To have that body control through contact, he needs to draw the foul more. Hopefully Harden has rubbed off on him some this offseason.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#26 » by the_process » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:07 pm

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the_process wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:
I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.


Harden+Embiid+Maxey= 70 PPG = Top 5 Offense

Maxey needs to carry a much more significant share of the scoring load.


That would be a legit big 3 offensive output. Add the defensive improvements and it starts giving a picture on what we might actually have here :peace:


It's a massive IF. But it's not impossible.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#27 » by eyeatoma » Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:04 pm

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Sixerscan wrote:He’ll be the 2nd leading scorer on the team. Post trade Harden was at 21 ppg Maxey was at 18.7, expect those to flip.

Expecting that 3P% to come back down to earth a bit though.


I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.
Yeah don't see that happening. Joel is right at the middle of his prime and is a potent scorer. You don't neuter your best scorer to acccomodate an aging vet who lost his burst and a 3rd year player who lacks a size up/ handle.

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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#28 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:39 am

We just need him to be better on defense that you wouldnt send help if he’s switched unto Tatum or Jaylen Brown, while he continues to be elite on transition and continue to be a 40+% 3pt shooter.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#29 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:13 pm

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Jailblazers7 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:He’ll be the 2nd leading scorer on the team. Post trade Harden was at 21 ppg Maxey was at 18.7, expect those to flip.

Expecting that 3P% to come back down to earth a bit though.


I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.
Yeah don't see that happening. Joel is right at the middle of his prime and is a potent scorer. You don't neuter your best scorer to acccomodate an aging vet who lost his burst and a 3rd year player who lacks a size up/ handle.

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You do if you want to reduce his burden and keep him as healthy as possible for the playoffs. He should never have a USG% north of 33/34 again, especially given the unique circumstances of last year. Asking him to score 30 ppg when we have plenty of weapons would be unwise imo.
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Re: What Type of Numbers/Accolades do you Expect Out of Tyrese Maxey this Season? 

Post#30 » by 76ciology » Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:46 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:
I think it’s more like Harden maintains, Maxey gets to 20-22, and Embiid drops to 26-27 ppg. I don’t see Embiid chasing a scoring title again and Maxey should be the one shouldering a bit more of the scoring burden.
Yeah don't see that happening. Joel is right at the middle of his prime and is a potent scorer. You don't neuter your best scorer to acccomodate an aging vet who lost his burst and a 3rd year player who lacks a size up/ handle.

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You do if you want to reduce his burden and keep him as healthy as possible for the playoffs. He should never have a USG% north of 33/34 again, especially given the unique circumstances of last year. Asking him to score 30 ppg when we have plenty of weapons would be unwise imo.


I agree.

First off, it’s close to impossible for a player and totally impossible for Embiid, to anchor both ends of the floor. Only guy who can do that right now is Giannis.

Second, winning the MVP is extremely hard. Specially when you are going against an analytics anomaly like Jokic and the closest thing to Bruce Willis in unbreakable in Giannis. Embiid pretty much have to decide whether to win the MVP or the championship. LeBron is also going after his MVP trophy because he has no chance to win the championship.

Third, embiid trying to win the MVP hurts our team. By trying to win the MVP, he has to get his 30 per game average. And the only way to do that is playing drop coverage on defense. This type of defense does not work in the playoffs, thats the reason why Jokic, Embiid and Gobert always fall short in the playoffs. And also the reason why we added three guys who can improve on our ability to play switch defense from day 1.

Playing switch defensive scheme is not something you can just turn the switch on, it’s heavy on read and react. It’s like running the triangle offense, where you need guys who are familiar with one another.

Best example of this was when the Bucks won the championship back in 2018-2019. They run a heavy switch defensive scheme that received a lot of criticisms back then during the reg season but by the playoffs, they were running 5 man units of Jrue-Khris-PJ-Giannis-Portis that is as good as it gets when it comes to length and switchability that it could neutralize any 2 man game the Suns throw at them

Lastly, you have the best 2nd option scorer in the league, the best 3rd option scorer in the league, the best 4th option scorer in the league and probably the best 6 man scorer in the league. And you still decide to get your 30 per game? You got to have that Mamba mentality or should i say.. Melo mentality in you
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Post#31 » by blargh » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:06 pm

76ciology wrote:Lastly, you have the best 2nd option scorer in the league, the best 3rd option scorer in the league, the best 4th option scorer in the league and probably the best 6 man scorer in the league.


I agree with your overall post, but man, this is a bold statement. :D You should be writing the Sixers’ promotional copy.

We should definitely have enough scoring, though, if we find a system to incorporate everyone.
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Post#32 » by 76ciology » Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:42 am

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76ciology wrote:Lastly, you have the best 2nd option scorer in the league, the best 3rd option scorer in the league, the best 4th option scorer in the league and probably the best 6 man scorer in the league.


I agree with your overall post, but man, this is a bold statement. :D You should be writing the Sixers’ promotional copy.

We should definitely have enough scoring, though, if we find a system to incorporate everyone.


:lol: i probably had too much coffee when i posted it
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Post#33 » by M2J » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:44 am

76ciology wrote:
blargh wrote:
76ciology wrote:Lastly, you have the best 2nd option scorer in the league, the best 3rd option scorer in the league, the best 4th option scorer in the league and probably the best 6 man scorer in the league.


I agree with your overall post, but man, this is a bold statement. :D You should be writing the Sixers’ promotional copy.

We should definitely have enough scoring, though, if we find a system to incorporate everyone.


:lol: i probably had too much coffee when i posted it



At first I thought you were referring to Melton as the 6th man and had to look at the roster to remember Trez....I assume you're referring to.
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Post#34 » by 76thBearCub » Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:47 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I'll go regression on points, slight bump in assists. I don't really care if he doesn't score as much as long as he gets to the line more. To have that body control through contact, he needs to draw the foul more. Hopefully Harden has rubbed off on him some this offseason.


Maxey could learn a thing or 2 from him, especially if able to bulk up a little bit. They are definitely on different ends of the spectrum on their drives. Maxeys elusive style is far more enjoyable to watch. Unfortunately the NBA doesn't incentivive such a thing.
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Post#35 » by sodmoraes » Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:55 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I'll go regression on points, slight bump in assists. I don't really care if he doesn't score as much as long as he gets to the line more. To have that body control through contact, he needs to draw the foul more. Hopefully Harden has rubbed off on him some this offseason.


Maxey could learn a thing or 2 from him, especially if able to bulk up a little bit. They are definitely on different ends of the spectrum on their drives. Maxeys elusive style is far more enjoyable to watch. Unfortunately the NBA doesn't incentivive such a thing.


I have mixed feelings with Maxey bulking up. His speed , with his improved shooting, are his main skills. If he bulks, he may lose a little bit of speed. He needs to get stronger, but without gaing (A lot of ) weight.
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Post#36 » by blargh » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:59 pm

sodmoraes wrote:
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Negrodamus wrote:I'll go regression on points, slight bump in assists. I don't really care if he doesn't score as much as long as he gets to the line more. To have that body control through contact, he needs to draw the foul more. Hopefully Harden has rubbed off on him some this offseason.


Maxey could learn a thing or 2 from him, especially if able to bulk up a little bit. They are definitely on different ends of the spectrum on their drives. Maxeys elusive style is far more enjoyable to watch. Unfortunately the NBA doesn't incentivive such a thing.


I have mixed feelings with Maxey bulking up. His speed , with his improved shooting, are his main skills. If he bulks, he may lose a little bit of speed. He needs to get stronger, but without gaing (A lot of ) weight.


I don’t know if i can point to a single clear-cut example where an NBA player lost quickness because they bulked up with muscle. There are lots of cases where players bulked as they got older, but I think they lost quickness due to age. I think within the bounds of NBA strength training (not NFL style bulking) you should be able to maintain your quickness with the right fast-twitch muscle program.
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Post#37 » by 76thBearCub » Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:45 pm

5 pounds of muscle doesn't sound like much but it's a **** ton if it's targeted and not the pro sports 20 pounds of muscle in the offseason cliche
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Post#38 » by 76thBearCub » Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:50 pm

Basically he can get stronger without sacracing any / much speed or quickness I'd think.
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Post#39 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:27 pm

Maxey just needs to get on the Steph Curry workout routine to build his core and he’ll be fine. He’s already 6’3” 200lbs which is definitely big enough. I think now it’s just changing his body composition which I’m sure he’s working on.
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Post#40 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:19 am

M2J wrote:
76ciology wrote:
blargh wrote:
I agree with your overall post, but man, this is a bold statement. :D You should be writing the Sixers’ promotional copy.

We should definitely have enough scoring, though, if we find a system to incorporate everyone.


:lol: i probably had too much coffee when i posted it



At first I thought you were referring to Melton as the 6th man and had to look at the roster to remember Trez....I assume you're referring to.


Yup, its Monster Trez.

Debatable whether the best scoring 6th man, but definitely one of the best scoring guys off the bench
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