Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live

[TFK]

Either tanking again or the injury is bad.

Yes, cuz it has to be one extreme end of the spectrum or the other, right? Can't be somewhere in between.

[Arsenal]

All this angst is because he played in the Houston game when he shouldn't have. I hope BC learns a lesson to TRUST THE PROCESS instead of giving in to the whims of the fickle fans.

The guy has a 3 week injury and it hasn't been 3 weeks yet. Calm the F down everyone.

[Gsraider]

While it could be worse than we hope, from all accounts I have read, Embiid has been practicing and looks fine. Obviously, I hope that's the case, but I think it's more a matter of BC doing the same thing that Hinkie did. The difference is that BC is being "overly cautious" whereas Hinkie had no problem admitting what the goal was. I think Philly was winning a few too many games and BC was counting on another high pick or two and when Embiid went down awkwardly, the window opened to sit Embiid for a prolonged period of time and bring the 76ers back down to earth in the process (no pun intended).

That's my guess at least.

[thenbaman]

Better get use to it.

[CoreyGallagher]

Not sure how people think it's worse, he's practicing and we're seeing videos of him goofing around on the court afterward. I think we're being 'too' cautious which is giving us opportunity to showcase the other bigs just before the trade deadline and tanking is an additional side effect.

[Los5782]

Not sure how people think it's worse, he's practicing and we're seeing videos of him goofing around on the basketball court afterward. I think we're being 'too' cautious which is giving us opportunity to showcase the other bigs just before the trade deadline and tanking is an additional side effect.

This ; I personally am looking forward to hopefully completing our big3+ in this upcoming draft which happens to be dominated by elite talent , at a position(s) of need for us. Big picture in mind, after this year, I'd personally be happy with beginning to go all in next season as far as looking to win as much as possible, while continuing to develop not only our players, but our culture as well.

[KKell2507]

While I fully understand the logic of being cautious, I think just giving a more detailed explanation could be useful for everyone. If hes working out, what is he doing? Like what can he do in a workout that he couldn't currently do in games? Shooting FT's is technically working out. Lifting upper body work because he cant bend his knee is also working out. Playing 1on1, 3on3, 5on5 is also all working out. What can he not do? is his knee still a bit sore after working out?

I think simply giving an explanation of what he cant quite do yet is completely fine and I wish they'd be a little more clear. More concrete details can kill some of the conspiracy theories, and would honestly put the fan base at a bit more ease.

[NJ SixerFan]

He better not see a minute of activity during all-star weekend.

[eyeatoma]

He better not see a minute of activity during all-star weekend.

Why?

[NJ SixerFan]

He better not see a minute of activity during all-star weekend.

Why?

IDK he's missed the last 7 sixers games.

[eyeatoma]

He better not see a minute of activity during all-star weekend.

Why?

IDK he's missed the last 7 sixers games.

Cuz we're tanking, being cautious and showcasing Okafor... We're also not sure about the last three games before all star break...

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[NJ SixerFan]

Why?

IDK he's missed the last 7 sixers games.

Cuz we're tanking, being cautious and showcasing Okafor... We're also not sure about the last three games before all star break...

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Can't claim caution and then let him play and participate on a completely meaningless weekend. Minutes/B2B restrictions and now missing time with a knee bruise. All-star weekend should be out for him.

[Ericb5]

Either tanking again or the injury is bad.

Yes, cuz it has to be one extreme end of the spectrum or the other, right? Can't be somewhere in between.

People don't want to just take things at face value. What the Sixers are saying is what is going on. He has a bone bruise, and he must be having lagging pain. There is no reason for him to play in pain at this point, especially when him not playing serves our purposes of falling back into lottery position, and giving Noel and Okafor some space to play before the deadline.


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[LongLiveHinkie]

Well, it's hard to take things at face value when they say they aren't gonna play him til he's healthy, then he plays vs Houston and then sits another 2 weeks after Houston. That either makes them look like they don't know wtf they are doing or have another agenda on the mind. And if they wanna stealth tank, fine, I'm all for it. I'd rather that then them not knowing what they're doing.

[76thBearCub]

Its amazing how loyal the front office seems to act toward our pr team which seems to be inadequate.

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[LongLiveHinkie]

A lot of this anger could be solved if they just give a timeline. Give the fans something. What is gained from treating the health of their players like Area 51 projects? And they absolutely have a window when they think Ben Simmons and Embiid will be back. If you don't think they have an idea then you are untold levels of naive.

Tomorrow when addressing the media: "This is subject to change, but we're looking at either right before or right after the all-star break as a return for Joel Embiid and for Ben Simmons we're hoping for late February/early March for his return. But that is also subject to change based on his conditioning and how he responds to practices." Boom. Done. Clean and easy.

What harm is there in making a public announcement like that? Answer: absolutely none, and it would quell a lot of the impatience in the fans so people don't have to keep guessing anymore.

[Ericb5]

Well, it's hard to take things at face value when they say they aren't gonna play him til he's healthy, then he plays vs Houston and then sits another 2 weeks after Houston. That either makes them look like they don't know wtf they are doing or have another agenda on the mind. And if they wanna stealth tank, fine, I'm all for it. I'd rather that then them not knowing what they're doing.

I'm assuming that they let him play against Houston because they determined that there was no structural damage, and he thought he could play. I think it hurt more after that game and that made them realize that he needed to rest it.

In retrospect, letting him play that game was a mistake. I think he would have been playing over the last week if we were in a playoff series though. The current situation is conducive to being cautious.

I think that Embiid has sort of proven what he needed to prove this year in the sense that he showed himself to be dominant, and with no recurrences of stress fractures.(so far).

Bone bruises are no big deal. Stress fractures can be career enders. They might as well hold him out until he feels great. It's his navicular injury that is the big risk. He plays with such force, and is often it of control physically. It is no wonder that he would get banged up from doing that.

He still needs to continue to train and get his core, and legs stronger, and improve his balance. I'm hoping for no limitations next season, outside of sitting some(but not all) back to back games.




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[Ericb5]

A lot of this anger could be solved if they just give a timeline. Give the fans something. What is gained from treating the health of their players like Area 51 projects? And they absolutely have a window when they think Ben Simmons and Embiid will be back. If you don't think they have an idea then you are untold levels of naive.

Tomorrow when addressing the media: "This is subject to change, but we're looking at either right before or right after the all-star break as a return for Joel Embiid and for Ben Simmons we're hoping for late February/early March for his return. But that is also subject to change based on his conditioning and how he responds to practices." Boom. Done. Clean and easy.

What harm is there in making a public announcement like that? Answer: absolutely none, and it would quell a lot of the impatience in the fans so people don't have to keep guessing anymore.

You are asking them to make up something though . There IS no timeline because they go through a process of benchmarking and load management. They can make guesses, and they are clearly leaking those guesses to the media, but just coming out and saying a date doesn't make sense. The announcement that you are asking for is completely unnecessary if they are leaking the same information to the media.

It's like with George RR Martin giving updates for when his next book comes out. For years he would say when he thought he was going to be done, but the truth of the matter was that he wasn't going to be done until he was satisfied with the result. He pissed a lot of people off for years for missing deadlines. So if he said that the book will be out in the spring, and then he wasn't happy with it on May 31st, do we expect him to release it anyway?

It's the same thing with injuries. There is nothing positive that can come out of saying that Embiid or Simmons will play on a certain date because if that date arrives and they aren't ready yet, you don't want them throwing them out there to save face.

The only time you can say with any certainty that a player that has been out for a long time will come back is if it is because of a suspension of some sort. Rehabbing injuries is a process that can't be rushed, and every player's body is different, and every injury is different.

Regardless, Simmons has been targeting a post all star break return for a long time, and that will end up being the case unless he has a set back.

Embiid is basically day to day right now, and the Sixers have been on the road. They would prefer to have him back at the facility rehabbing instead of traveling with the team.


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[XDevilBoiX]

I want to see Embiid wear some type of knee braces until he learns how to land. This will continue to happen and every time it does, we all gonna get heart attacks.

BC is doing everything that Hinkie did and is getting away with it. Funny on how this media and league is....

[LongLiveHinkie]

A lot of this anger could be solved if they just give a timeline. Give the fans something. What is gained from treating the health of their players like Area 51 projects? And they absolutely have a window when they think Ben Simmons and Embiid will be back. If you don't think they have an idea then you are untold levels of naive.

Tomorrow when addressing the media: "This is subject to change, but we're looking at either right before or right after the all-star break as a return for Joel Embiid and for Ben Simmons we're hoping for late February/early March for his return. But that is also subject to change based on his conditioning and how he responds to practices." Boom. Done. Clean and easy.

What harm is there in making a public announcement like that? Answer: absolutely none, and it would quell a lot of the impatience in the fans so people don't have to keep guessing anymore.

You are asking them to make up something though . There IS no timeline because they go through a process of benchmarking and load management. They can make guesses, and they are clearly leaking those guesses to the media, but just coming out and saying a date doesn't make sense. The announcement that you are asking for is completely unnecessary if they are leaking the same information to the media.

It's like with George RR Martin giving updates for when his next book comes out. For years he would say when he thought he was going to be done, but the truth of the matter was that he wasn't going to be done until he was satisfied with the result. He pissed a lot of people off for years for missing deadlines. So if he said that the book will be out in the spring, and then he wasn't happy with it on May 31st, do we expect him to release it anyway?

It's the same thing with injuries. There is nothing positive that can come out of saying that Embiid or Simmons will play on a certain date because if that date arrives and they aren't ready yet, you don't want them throwing them out there to save face.

The only time you can say with any certainty that a player that has been out for a long time will come back is if it is because of a suspension of some sort. Rehabbing injuries is a process that can't be rushed, and every player's body is different, and every injury is different.

Regardless, Simmons has been targeting a post all star break return for a long time, and that will end up being the case unless he has a set back.

Embiid is basically day to day right now, and the Sixers have been on the road. They would prefer to have him back at the facility rehabbing instead of traveling with the team.


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I think it's highly highly probable if not a virtual lock that they already know exactly what date Simmons and Embiid are expected to be back and are just not telling anyone.

and if they have to guess, then guess. They can do so responsibly and respectfully within a given timeframe. I mean, teams do the same thing when they announce injuries. _____ hurt his knee, he's expected to miss 4-6 weeks. Same premise. So why not do that here. If it ends up being wrong, oh well. No harm done.