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Post#1121 » by VDT » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 am

We dont have any use for Cousins. He plays no defense and has been terrible offensively. Howard is much better. Maybe a team that needs some size will take him and hope for the best but i dont think he can offer much. He is not doing anything useful on the court.
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Post#1122 » by Stanford » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:10 am

Cousins is better than Dwight and fits better in bench units.
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Post#1123 » by Tomjas » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:22 am

Dwight is not our problem
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Post#1124 » by stormi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:28 am

Boogie is absolutely finished, want no parts of that
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Post#1125 » by Stanford » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:29 am

stormi wrote:Boogie is absolutely finished, want no parts of that


And Dwight isn't?
At least Cousins makes sense with Embiid on the bench
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Post#1126 » by stormi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:30 am

Stanford wrote:
stormi wrote:Boogie is absolutely finished, want no parts of that


And Dwight isn't?


Neither excite me, but I can see a scenario where he can at least contribute positively as an energy big that defends and rebounds hard in spurts, like he did for the Lakers last year. And he gave them very valuable minutes and a dynamic against the Nuggets & Jokic that really tilted the series, especially because the refs clutch their whistles more come April/May/June. Boogie can't move, can't defend and shooting god awful percentages; he hasn't provided anything positive in years now, not since his achilles went poof anyways.
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Post#1127 » by Stanford » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:31 am

I just do not agree. Dwight has been terrible this season.
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Post#1128 » by stormi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:35 am

Demarcus' name value is the most exciting part about him. He's essentially a 2019 Greg Monroe tier liability. If we're trying to make bench upgrades we may as well chase that stretch 4. Bjelica or whoever would at least work with Ben or Embiid and would provide something the reserve unit is lacking. Hell I'd rather sign Dedmon off the street or give Paul Reed minutes.
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Post#1129 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:36 am

It cannot be understated how bad Dwight has been on offense. I don't think I've ever seen anyone perform that poorly on the NBA level.

The only reason to keep Dwight over Cousins is if Dwight is providing locker room appeal. Otherwise, he's a sometimes good defender who forces at least 1 to 2 five minute flagrant foul official reviews a game. That alone is disqualifying.
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Post#1130 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:38 am

I feel like Cousins is Dwight before he realized his place and put his ego in check. And maybe still not as valuable as that anyway.
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Post#1131 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:43 am

All I know is Howard is a damn sight better than Amir Johnson or Kyle O'Quinn.
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Post#1132 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:48 am



He embodies the type of center we need to play with Ben when Embiid is off the court. He also can put the ball on the ground without everyone having to hold their breath. His stats suggest he's better on BOTH ends of the court compared to Dwight and while turning it over far less. Once again, the only reason one could conceivably consider Dwight over DeMarcus is locker room/continuity.
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Post#1133 » by stormi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:49 am

Ugh just imaging Boogie coming here and spamming 3's alongside Korkmaz and Matisse off the bench is making me dizzy. Pls Boston or Brooklyn, get that done.
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Post#1134 » by mithrandir17 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:51 am

Will Cousins be okay with being a third string center where he'll play in games where we need scoring from the bench or when Embiid sits?

Dwight is the perfect center in the lineup where we put tobias with the second unit but when Ben is playing with the second unit, his fit with dwight is not the most compatible lineup.
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Post#1135 » by Sixerscan » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:56 am

Feels like he's going back to the Lakers
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Post#1136 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:56 am

I mean if you could get a guy like Cousins to buy in and come for cheap with no ego it would be obvious. I don't think that works for him though.
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Post#1137 » by youngcrev » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:57 am

I thought Cousins looked decent against Jo.... And Dwight has been awful since a solid start.

I think Cousins is a considerably better offensive player and fit.

Knowing that Jo and Cousins will both miss a decent amount of time, if Dwight is alright with being a 3rd stringer I'd keep him on the roster.
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Post#1138 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:01 am

76thBearCub wrote:I mean if you could get a guy like Cousins to buy in and come for cheap with no ego it would be obvious. I don't think that works for him though.


Doesn't he have like the same exact contract as Howard?

Also, I'd only take him if we were moving on from Howard. Therefore he'd have near the same mpg he did in Houston (20 mpg) and an opportunity to start some games when Embiid is sitting. I know it's not going to happen, but his skillset makes more sense than Dwight's for this team, imo.
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Post#1139 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:03 am

I don't know what people want out of a backup center if Howard isn't doing it.
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Post#1140 » by Stanford » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:06 am

76thBearCub wrote:I feel like Cousins is Dwight before he realized his place and put his ego in check. And maybe still not as valuable as that anyway.


Sure, if Dwight shot 8 threes per 36

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