Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[sixers hoops]

Isiah Joe
Charles Bassey
Julian Champagnie
Jalen McDaniels

Four young athletic players who are complete or relative bargains left go by a team trying to avoid paying the tax while paying more than their entire salaries combined to PJ Tucker.

That is utterly terrible roster building and construction especially for a team that seems to be retooling around a Maxey-Embiid core. Literal malpractice by the front office with few draft assets to replace them. And now in danger of losing Paul Reed, it’s so damn stupid, sigh…

PJ Tucker at 38 gets three guaranteed years at $13 million per and the rationalization was that the team needed toughness. You can sign a Haslem or Jeff Green type for cheap if you need someone to give your stars a pep talk, but this was just dumb.

Tucker. Patrick Bev. Harden. Harrell. Tobias. House. It’s just mostly older guys who, if we are lucky, may resemble somewhat of their former selves, but in all likelihood, they will continue to decline… and aside from Harden their primes weren’t that good.

The only rotation players younger than Embiid are Maxey and Melton. And he prob wants to move them for Lillard or somebody. Reed, McDaniels, Joe, Bassey, etc are too young and cheap, so we don’t have interest.

When you only acquire players who are assured to continually get worse, and trade picks to get them, it is not long before you have an aged team with little to build a future with.

[phifans]

Isiah Joe
Charles Bassey
Julian Champagnie
Jalen McDaniels

Four young athletic players who are complete or relative bargains left go by a team trying to avoid paying the tax while paying more than their entire salaries combined to PJ Tucker.

That is utterly terrible roster building and construction especially for a team that seems to be retooling around a Maxey-Embiid core. Literal malpractice by the front office with few draft assets to replace them. And now in danger of losing Paul Reed, it’s so damn stupid, sigh…

PJ Tucker at 38 gets three guaranteed years at $13 million per and the rationalization was that the team needed toughness. You can sign a Haslem or Jeff Green type for cheap if you need someone to give your stars a pep talk, but this was just dumb.

Tucker. Patrick Bev. Harden. Harrell. Tobias. House. It’s just mostly older guys who, if we are lucky, may resemble somewhat of their former selves, but in all likelihood, they will continue to decline… and aside from Harden their primes weren’t that good.

The only rotation players younger than Embiid are Maxey and Melton. And he prob wants to move them for Lillard or somebody. Reed, McDaniels, Joe, Bassey, etc are too young and cheap, so we don’t have interest.

When you only acquire players who are assured to continually get worse, and trade picks to get them, it is not long before you have an aged team with little to build a future with.

What else do you expect from Morey ? I mean he's basically a casual fan whose only interest is to trade all the future picks he has for some aging stars.

[Ferry Avenue]

Isiah Joe
Charles Bassey
Julian Champagnie
Jalen McDaniels

Four young athletic players who are complete or relative bargains left go by a team trying to avoid paying the tax while paying more than their entire salaries combined to PJ Tucker.

That is utterly terrible roster building and construction especially for a team that seems to be retooling around a Maxey-Embiid core. Literal malpractice by the front office with few draft assets to replace them. And now in danger of losing Paul Reed, it’s so damn stupid, sigh…

The problem there is that they are overvaluing Embiid.

[Kobblehead]

The various iterations of Sixers front offices over the last 5 years have all been 100% believers in the imaginary window to win with Embiid theory and that's why our youth development priority has been such dogpoop.

[mjkvol]

The various iterations of Sixers front offices over the last 5 years have all been 100% believers in the imaginary window to win with Embiid theory and that's why our youth development priority has been such dogpoop.

Truth. He has a chance to reverse that course starting now, but I fear he won't. All these open roster spots just scream of one or two of those crazy deals bringing in more veteran players.

[Negrodamus]

I still think Wiggins is quietly a target for us in a Tobias trade, but I also wonder if Keldon Johnson is too. Both locked up on fairly large deals for multi years. Keldon is about to be redundant with Branham and Vassell. Wiggins can’t really be in the Warriors longterm plans and they need to shed salary soon.

[Stanford]

The various iterations of Sixers front offices over the last 5 years have all been 100% believers in the imaginary window to win with Embiid theory and that's why our youth development priority has been such dogpoop.

This gives me even more confidence in Maxey. How was he able to improve so much in this environment? Monster.

[youngcrev]

I still think Wiggins is quietly a target for us in a Tobias trade, but I also wonder if Keldon Johnson is too. Both locked up on fairly large deals for multi years. Keldon is about to be redundant with Branham and Vassell. Wiggins can’t really be in the Warriors longterm plans and they need to shed salary soon.

Feels more like wishful thinking. I have a hard time seeing either of those teams having any interest. Even if the Spurs prefer Branham/Vassell, why trade a good young wing on a good contract for an expiring Tobias? The Warriors addressed their cap with the CP3 deal and got Draymond on a reasonable contract, so I don't see them looking to get off Wiggins.

[Negrodamus]

I still think Wiggins is quietly a target for us in a Tobias trade, but I also wonder if Keldon Johnson is too. Both locked up on fairly large deals for multi years. Keldon is about to be redundant with Branham and Vassell. Wiggins can’t really be in the Warriors longterm plans and they need to shed salary soon.

Feels more like wishful thinking. I have a hard time seeing either of those teams having any interest. Even if the Spurs prefer Branham/Vassell, why trade a good young wing on a good contract for an expiring Tobias? The Warriors addressed their cap with the CP3 deal and got Draymond on a reasonable contract, so I don't see them looking to get off Wiggins.

Probably right with Wiggins.

Keldon is an inflated asset since he's on a bad team. Spurs probably want to compete sooner rather than later.

Tre Jones, Devin Vassell, Tobias Harris, Jeremy Sochan, and Victor Wembanyama makes a pretty nice team next year with the ability to either re-sign Tobi for an affordable amount the following year or let him lapse and have cap room to sign a big name free agent next year. Also Tobi adds a level of veteran leadership. Seems like a Pop guy.

I have to imagine the Spurs know Keldon isn't a star and is taking up space.

[youngcrev]

I still think Wiggins is quietly a target for us in a Tobias trade, but I also wonder if Keldon Johnson is too. Both locked up on fairly large deals for multi years. Keldon is about to be redundant with Branham and Vassell. Wiggins can’t really be in the Warriors longterm plans and they need to shed salary soon.

Feels more like wishful thinking. I have a hard time seeing either of those teams having any interest. Even if the Spurs prefer Branham/Vassell, why trade a good young wing on a good contract for an expiring Tobias? The Warriors addressed their cap with the CP3 deal and got Draymond on a reasonable contract, so I don't see them looking to get off Wiggins.

Probably right with Wiggins.

Keldon is an inflated asset since he's on a bad team. Spurs probably want to compete sooner rather than later.

Tre Jones, Devin Vassell, Tobias Harris, Jeremy Sochan, and Victor Wembanyama makes a pretty nice team next year with the ability to either re-sign Tobi for an affordable amount the following year or let him lapse and have cap room to sign a big name free agent next year. Also Tobi adds a level of veteran leadership. Seems like a Pop guy.

I have to imagine the Spurs know Keldon isn't a star and is taking up space.

If this year was a priority I imagine they would have signed some guys. Regardless, I don't think Tobi's on court impact would be much better than Keldon's.

His scoring numbers are definitely inflated playing for that team, but he's still a young, 2 way wing locked up to reasonable money (particularly by today's standard).

I think they could get some legit assets if they chose to trade him.

[Arsenal]

I still think Wiggins is quietly a target for us in a Tobias trade, but I also wonder if Keldon Johnson is too. Both locked up on fairly large deals for multi years. Keldon is about to be redundant with Branham and Vassell. Wiggins can’t really be in the Warriors longterm plans and they need to shed salary soon.

Feels more like wishful thinking. I have a hard time seeing either of those teams having any interest. Even if the Spurs prefer Branham/Vassell, why trade a good young wing on a good contract for an expiring Tobias? The Warriors addressed their cap with the CP3 deal and got Draymond on a reasonable contract, so I don't see them looking to get off Wiggins.

The whole point of a great front office is to target and attain guys like Keldon Johnson BEFORE they break out. Now it's too late and you'll have to pay through the nose for him in trade.

Who are those guys?

[youngcrev]

Paul Reed signed an offer sheet.

Everyone here is gonna be so pissed when he walks

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[FireMorey]

I actually don't think the Sixers should match it. You don't pay 8m for a backup center.

If he leaves he should've been sign and traded. This whole situation has been mishandled at every level. Just an absolutely half-assed embarrassing summer for the front office so far.

[XtremeDunkz]

I actually don't think the Sixers should match it. You don't pay 8m for a backup center.

If he leaves he should've been sign and traded. This whole situation has been mishandled at every level. Just an absolutely half-assed embarrassing summer for the front office so far.

I mean I understand not wanting to give any multi year contracts. You got Tobi and Harden expiring. No reason to cancel that out for role players.

This isn't surprising

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[sixers hoops]

I still think Wiggins is quietly a target for us in a Tobias trade, but I also wonder if Keldon Johnson is too. Both locked up on fairly large deals for multi years. Keldon is about to be redundant with Branham and Vassell. Wiggins can’t really be in the Warriors longterm plans and they need to shed salary soon.

Feels more like wishful thinking. I have a hard time seeing either of those teams having any interest. Even if the Spurs prefer Branham/Vassell, why trade a good young wing on a good contract for an expiring Tobias? The Warriors addressed their cap with the CP3 deal and got Draymond on a reasonable contract, so I don't see them looking to get off Wiggins.

Yeah I guess the warriors addressed their cap issues more than I realized. If Klay re-signs next year at $45 million, that would put Steph, Klay, Dray, and Wiggins at about $152 million, so about 80% of the 24-25 2nd apron projection. Gary Payton II has a $9 million player option, so that’s $161. If they are committed to staying below the projected $191 apron, either Klay sacrifices, or they may have to go REALLY cheap on the bench with ~$30 million. Looney appears to have $3 million guaranteed, which is $8 million of option is picked up, and Kaminga $7.6 option.

Don’t think there is enough pressure to move Wiggins, but things are a little cramped.

[ProcessDoctor]

Danny Ainge still **** with us lol.

If we plan to play him at the 4 in addition to the 5, you match this.

[Lovetron Joe]

Danny Ainge still **** with us lol.

If we plan to play him at the 4 in addition to the 5, you match this.

For sure, otherwise the Jazz has a very nice assortment of draft picks over the next several years. Thirteen picks between now and 2028.

[sixers hoops]

Paul Reed signed an offer sheet.

Everyone here is gonna be so pissed when he walks

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Seems like they expected him to get a offer bigger than they were willing to match with the Mo Bamba signing.

It’s essentially a one-year deal so I wouldn’t be surprised if we matched it, but Reed is a little young for Morey’s likely.

[eyeatoma]

This guy is definitely in the know. Called it an hour before the Woj tweet. He's been right in other stuff as well. Mentioned our interest in LaVine, I shared that before too. This is the guy with a friend of a friend who is connected to the team. A real live Marc Jackson's brothers, friend x3

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He's hearing Sixers will match

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