Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[hookshot199]

Harris IS an expiring. Why trade him for...Expirings?
I think we'll eventually round out the bench with someone who can score. Not going to panic just yet, but I am mad about Reed. I really think we should hold on to him.

I am too. Doc f--ked us over with Reed. Now we either lose him or take a huge risk on a guy who wasn't given a chance to prove what he can do. But if Morey doesn't match, it makes Morey look incompetent (major league incompetent) because he can't get anyone better. He needs to pull the trigger sooner on the Harden trade to make the numbers work so that we can keep Reed.

OTOH if Doc had played Reed 20 a night we'd know more about where he stood... but I think if Doc played Reed 20 a night Reed would have averaged like 10pts, 8 boards, 1.5 stl/blk and as a RFA probably woulda gotten at least a 3/33 or maybe even 4/44 offer sheet or higher.

So really Morey needs to not be a chump and take Reed at a 'cheaper contract' than he would have gotten had Doc not buried him last year.

Agree. B-Ball's making Morey make a commitment. Also, we need him to play both 4 and 5. His payday's not part of Morey's budget plan. On the other hand, it's time for him to move Harden to the Clippers. I'm still hoping we bring back Powell, Mann and a future protected first as the key pieces. We may now need a couple of seconds (they have them) to possibly move Kork to help get our payroll down.

The fans all knew Reed could contribute. Doc didn't. Morey obviously didn't read him the riot act. This is a smart move for Reed - and the only move his agent could make given that we've treated him like dog ****.

[Arsenal]

Also if the front office has any inkling that Embiid is unhappy and may want out, that’s another reason to keep Basketball. He becomes our C of the future in that case.

[youngcrev]

Also if the front office has any inkling that Embiid is unhappy and may want out, that’s another reason to keep Basketball. He becomes our C of the future in that case.

[mithrandir17]

Just match Bball paul's offer sheet. If Morey really wants to clear cap next season, that 8M contract is easily tradable next season. Most TPE around the league can fit that contract easily.

The resulting luxury tax from this deal should not be viewed as something they have to pay to keep Bball Paul rather it is something they have to pay because of the contract they gave to Tobias. If Tobias is being paid like he was supposed to (around 25-28M), we should not be even close to luxury tax line right now.

[Arsenal]

We finally made it fam...

[youngcrev]

We finally made it fam...

They gonna pay to dump Kork or House to get them there?

[Stanford]

Can't believe we lost draft picks to get here.

[youngcrev]

Can't believe we lost draft picks to get here.

Good point.

Can they file with the league to be reimbursed if they end up having to pay to get off of Tucker and/or House?

[youngcrev]

For the price that it would cost to retain BBall we could have Trez, Dedmon AND DeAndre Jordan!

(Morey math)

[Kobblehead]

Look at the talent the Lakers accumulated and the contract amount they signed them at and then look at us.

And we're out here signing their castoff trash (Beverely, Bamba). Surprised we didn't give Westbrook 2 years, $40m.

[youngcrev]

Morey has a plan, he just can't say it out loud, or it might not come true. Duh.

[hookshot199]

Morey has a plan, he just can't say it out loud, or it might not come true. Duh.

He just got called in poker. B-Ball wants a three-year commitment from the team and not with a team option for the third year. If he can play four, it will make it easier to move Harris at the trade deadline. I'm not sure his agent played it right. On the other hand, there are worse risks in my opinion.

[blargh]

The League is definitely going to have to address these conditional contract terms for RFA offers in the future, but kudos to Ainge for thinking up this loophole.

Think about how nuts it could get: “Player gets an extra $30M year guaranteed if he ends up on a team located In Philadelphia at the end of the year.”

[youngcrev]

Morey has a plan, he just can't say it out loud, or it might not come true. Duh.

He just got called in poker. B-Ball wants a three-year commitment from the team and not with a team option for the third year. If he can play four, it will make it easier to move Harris at the trade deadline. I'm not sure his agent played it right. On the other hand, there are worse risks in my opinion.

I imagine they'd have to think he can play some 4 if they match. Morey clearly doesn't place value on the backup 5 spot since in his mind you can fill that spot adequately for the minimum.

[Negrodamus]

Embiid gonna hang another 59 on the Jazz next time they play because of this.

[LessMorey]

Morey has a plan, he just can't say it out loud, or it might not come true. Duh.

He just got called in poker. B-Ball wants a three-year commitment from the team and not with a team option for the third year. If he can play four, it will make it easier to move Harris at the trade deadline. I'm not sure his agent played it right. On the other hand, there are worse risks in my opinion.

His agent is taking a huge gamble. If the Sixers don't match that's a terrible deal for Reed. Also, if the Sixers were somehow to be knocked out in the first round.

[LessMorey]

The League is definitely going to have to address these conditional contract terms for RFA offers in the future, but kudos to Ainge for thinking up this loophole.

Think about how nuts it could get: “Player gets an extra $30M year guaranteed if he ends up on a team located In Philadelphia at the end of the year.”

RFA is where smart and well-connected agents make their money. Reeves' and Reed's agents didn't do them any favors.

Also, they have clear language in the CBA that prevents the example you brought up. Playoff results were a smart way to work a loophole considering the Jazz and Sixers have different expectations for the upcoming season.

[Sixersftw]

Can't believe we lost draft picks to get here.

Are you referring to the, one time, historic amount of draft picks that were squandered to get here or the draft picks we were fined to acquire useless former rocket players?

[Stanford]

Can't believe we lost draft picks to get here.

Are you referring to the, one time, historic amount of draft picks that were squandered to get here or the draft picks we were fined to acquire useless former rocket players?

The League is definitely going to have to address these conditional contract terms for RFA offers in the future, but kudos to Ainge for thinking up this loophole.

I'm not crying about getting screwed because the deal is fine and I want bball around long term. But I can't believe that contract arrangement is allowed. How is there not something written in the rules that would allow a commissioner to invalidate an obviously fraudulent offer?

[Arsenal]

Morey has a plan, he just can't say it out loud, or it might not come true. Duh.

He just got called in poker. B-Ball wants a three-year commitment from the team and not with a team option for the third year. If he can play four, it will make it easier to move Harris at the trade deadline. I'm not sure his agent played it right. On the other hand, there are worse risks in my opinion.

His agent is taking a huge gamble. If the Sixers don't match that's a terrible deal for Reed. Also, if the Sixers were somehow to be knocked out in the first round.

That means this was the best offer they could get. Morey, probably under the direction of ownership, obviously lowballed hoping to keep Basketball for cheap.