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Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1462 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:28 pm

gdog2004 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:The idea that someone could not know what good form is supposed to be because they haven't shot is absurd garbage.

I would also assume that the guys assumed to have never shot have indeed shot a bunch, but that is an assumption just like the one running the opposite direction.


So you would take advice on shooting from someone who has never shot before ?
Would you take lessons from a driving instructor if they have never driven before but have watched good drivers drive ?


See, this is similarly dumb; has anyone here suggested Fultz should hire them to show him how to shoot? The jump between being able to identify good and ba mechanics to being a hired shooting/driving coach is a big one, and a giant straw argument.

The question was can these people pick out bad shooting mechanics. If you want to carry it over to driving, can someone who has never driven pick out bad driving...
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1463 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:30 pm

Those of you who have never driven before cannot have an opinion on if this is bad:
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1464 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:48 pm

Shot looks good, can't wait to see him on the court.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1465 » by JojoSlimbiid » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:54 pm

I think I'm missing something I have no issues with the way he shot those 2 turnarounds. The 3 is another story as that likely was going to be WIP anyway even then I would of liked a side view. Do like how far the free-throws have come though
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1466 » by Stanford » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:13 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
Read on Twitter


edit: Already several videos of Fultz warming up on Twitter, just use the search function.I

Read on Twitter


Markelle in the background shooting off the dribble. I try to be positive, but not acting like I'm impressed with the results after months of training. :noway:


If his shot looks like that, I have no interest in seeing him on the floor this year.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1467 » by Cheatergriffin » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:47 pm

Seems to be a slight hitch still. Ive never seen someone lose their form overnight like this. Hopefully its fine and just a quicker releaae bc of adjustment to league. Or hes the nba’s rick ankiel.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1468 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:10 pm

He really shoots like Amir Johnson now, shame there's no lemon law on draft picks.
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Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1469 » by Sasashi » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:55 pm

There is still a CLEAR hitch in his shot...not smooth and as a previous poster said , it looks like he’s pushing his shot. I’ve always been wait and see with fultz but that shot is worrisome.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1470 » by eagereyez » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:17 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


edit: Already several videos of Fultz warming up on Twitter, just use the search function.I

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


Markelle in the background shooting off the dribble. I try to be positive, but not acting like I'm impressed with the results after months of training. :noway:

I wonder how many people still expect Fultz to save our bench after watching that.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1471 » by James40 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:59 pm

I’m not a fan of the hitch in his shot, hopefully whatever form he picks, he can still shoot reasonably well. But let’s not pretend this guy hasn’t had the yips, he did, and it looks like some of it is still there.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1472 » by BigSleep333 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:06 pm

i cant take more negative news today, so im act like his shot is fine and hes worth what 90% on this board preached.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1473 » by Bum Adebayo » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:09 pm

Shot looks like crap, no need to lie ourselves to feel good lol.
Hopefully this changes soon. There was no need to change his shot, he never was gonna be an elite 3pt shooter, his bread and butter always has been midrange and off the dribble shooting, just emulate guys like Wade, Derozan who excelled at midrange.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1474 » by gdog2004 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:35 pm

Fultz when he shoots does not look like an NBA player. Embiid is a friggin center and he effortlessly walks
down and hits a 3 (with great form mind you). I can see why the Sixers are keeping this guy out. I was all for drafting Fultz because he was supposed to be this 3 level scorer and a great shooter. But the Sixers have drafted the only NBA player in history who was drafted number one FOR HIS SHOOTING and can now no longer shoot. Remember the day before the trade Markelle came into Philly and missed like almost every shot imaginable and then they did the trade anyway ? Ainge probably saw that s*** and was like hellllll no we aint drafting that kid. Everyone was so thrilled that the Sixers put draft protections on the Lakers/Kings pick. It was a great move until Markelle forgot how to shoot. Sigh.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1475 » by sicknastydunker » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:45 am

gdog2004 wrote:Fultz when he shoots does not look like an NBA player. Embiid is a friggin center and he effortlessly walks
down and hits a 3 (with great form mind you). I can see why the Sixers are keeping this guy out. I was all for drafting Fultz because he was supposed to be this 3 level scorer and a great shooter. But the Sixers have drafted the only NBA player in history who was drafted number one FOR HIS SHOOTING and can now no longer shoot. Remember the day before the trade Markelle came into Philly and missed like almost every shot imaginable and then they did the trade anyway ? Ainge probably saw that s*** and was like hellllll no we aint drafting that kid. Everyone was so thrilled that the Sixers put draft protections on the Lakers/Kings pick. It was a great move until Markelle forgot how to shoot. Sigh.


This is actually exactly what happened

https://chowderandchampions.com/2017/06/13/boston-celtics-draft-news-markelle-fultz-had-bad-shooting-day-during-workout/

Fultz had a horrible workout with the Celtics shooting wise
dukes_wild wrote:Fultz is going to be a future MVP, so no, Philly actually got very lucky that Boston gave them that pick

:lol:
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1476 » by Kirk Van Houten » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:33 am

James40 wrote:I’m not a fan of the hitch in his shot, hopefully whatever form he picks, he can still shoot reasonably well. But let’s not pretend this guy hasn’t had the yips, he did, and it looks like some of it is still there.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1477 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:35 am

Fultz been running a lot of PnR on practice. Thats what I saw.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1478 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:37 am

Regards to changing his mechanics.. Maybe its because some knowledgeable guy advised him to change his mechanics to make him a far better shooter. Maybe gives him better strength to shoot from deep and consistency at the foul line.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1479 » by mithrandir17 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:39 am

So, what was Fultz's surprise in the london game? just the pre-game shoot-around?
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion) 

Post#1480 » by gdog2004 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:46 am

mithrandir17 wrote:So, what was Fultz's surprise in the london game? just the pre-game shoot-around?

I think it was to unveil that he now shoots like a 3rd grader all over again.

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