Ben Simmons Trade Thread

DCasey91 · Post #1461 » by **DCasey91** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 12:46 pm

Mik317 wrote:again. THE Pels probably want nothing to do with Klutch and Ben and Zion is a terrible pairing.

Harris man. Or a 3rd team not hard.

ConstableChaos · Post #1462 » by **ConstableChaos** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 12:53 pm

jrue holidays likely available

DCasey91 · Post #1463 » by **DCasey91** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 12:54 pm

Noooooooooo to Jrue, like big nooooooooo. Not a PG, and not a premium scoring SG. Noooooo Gary nooooo

DCasey91 · Post #1464 » by **DCasey91** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 12:56 pm

With Lillard off the table

- Jalen Green
- Brandon Ingram
- Luka Doncic

That’s it.

mjkvol · Post #1465 » by **mjkvol** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 12:58 pm

sodmoraes wrote:If we trade Simmons for Ingram we just need to swap Tobias for Cj and we are set.

Cj
Curry
Green
Ingram
Embiid

And we keep our young players, hoping Maxey, Mathisse and Reed can be solid players next season.

Maybe we can get a decent defensive pf( using hill and Green contract) so we can slid Ingram to Sf.

Ingram is a true scorer. And he's always improving. I dont know why would Pelicans make the trade altough .

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I'd sign for this right now, although Simmons for Ingram straight up is a lot less realistic than Harris for CJ. Not sure we could do the Ingram deal without including good young players and/or picks.

51X3RF4N · Post #1466 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 1:10 pm

DCasey91 wrote:With Lillard off the table

- Jalen Green
- Brandon Ingram
- Luka Doncic

That’s it.

Well, if I had to bet money, I'd say neither of the top 3 teams are going to offer their pick for Ben.

And there is no person in this universe that would offer Luka for Ben. If you thought Dame would cost a lot, hooboy Luka would cost everything and more.

So I guess it's Ingram, who New Orleans doesn't seem to want to trade, and who fits well with Zion. For Ben, who New Orleans hasn't seemed inclined to try to trade for, and who fits terrible with Zion.

I think what you're saying is keep Ben, right?

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eyeatoma · Post #1467 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 1:20 pm

sodmoraes wrote:If we trade Simmons for Ingram we just need to swap Tobias for Cj and we are set.

Cj
Curry
Green
Ingram
Embiid

And we keep our young players, hoping Maxey, Mathisse and Reed can be solid players next season.

Maybe we can get a decent defensive pf( using hill and Green contract) so we can slid Ingram to Sf.

Ingram is a true scorer. And he's always improving. I dont know why would Pelicans make the trade altough .

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I'd do this trade.

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Eyeamok · Post #1468 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 1:24 pm

ConstableChaos wrote:jrue holidays likely available

What's crazy is at the start of the season, most people said it was an overpay for Jrue but he was/is just what the Bucks needed. It's crazy but what the Bucks seem to need is someone like a Ben that may not score a ton of points but I bet he would do a much better job on Chris Paul.

Da Doctor · Post #1469 » by **Da Doctor** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 2:44 pm

It's hilarious that there are still Simmons defenders around

howiezbt · Post #1470 » by **howiezbt** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:48 pm

Honestly, unless its one of a handful of players, there is no reason to trade Ben for scraps. Get an alpha PG (look at what CP3 is doing for Phoenix), to get in Ben's head and take pressure off of him running the half court. Someone like Lowry, Conley, Brunson, Brogdon, etc

Less than 20 Players I would trade Ben for, and I am not saying these are realistic or one for ones, after the "-" is whether I think they are available for Simmons in some way:

Lilliard - not likely
Doncic - no way
Lebron - no way but two years with Embiid would be epic
Beal - if he declines to sign an extension, then probably avail
Tatum - nope
Fox - who knows with them.
Shai - unlikely looks like they will build around him
Lavine -maybe
Ingram - maybe but Simmons is not a great fit with Zion
PG - possible.
Kawaii -nope
Curry - nope
Any of the Brooklyn 3 -nope
Trae -nope
Booker - nope
Jamal Murray -maybe avail because of injury
Giannis - Nope
Middleton - Nope

I may have missed one, but McCollum or Brogdon I am meh on as I don't think we are much better with them while losing Ben.

SparksFly87 · Post #1471 » by **SparksFly87** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 4:15 pm

Jaylen Brown and Smart for Simmons, Shake and Hill.

76ers get a number 2 star who scores and adds a tough veteran defensive guard.
Embiid/ Dwight
Tobias/ Reed/ 28 th pick
Brown / Thybulle
Green / Smart / Joe
Curry / Maxey

Boston gets a star point powerforward who is a great fit between Tatum and Horford. Add shooters like Fournier and newly acquired Shake Milton. All familiar with one Udoka who former assistant coached the 76ers.

Simmons
Shake
Fournier
Tatum
Horford

DCasey91 · Post #1472 » by **DCasey91** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 4:23 pm

You know you can have three teams in a trade right?

Mik317 · Post #1473 » by **Mik317** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 4:50 pm

That third team would have to get something out of it.

If Ingram is on the board, why would they go for Simmons over him and why would the Pels make that trade?

Multi team deals generally feel like someone is getting **** which is why it is hard to theory craft any of those. Remember the Dwight trade...everyone was like wtf Orlando why wouldn't you take Bynum...it worked out for them (kinda) BUT still.

BNelley24 · Post #1474 » by **BNelley24** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:14 pm

T-wolves getting run today, multiple legit sources. Would have to be a 3-way deal though correct? Edwards is the perfect piece to send to a 3rd team and grab Lavine, Beal, etc

BNelley24 · Post #1475 » by **BNelley24** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:26 pm

Probably beongs in fantasy thread, but who says no?

76ers get: Lavine, Rubio
Wolves get: Simmons, 4th pick (from CHI)
Bulls get: Edwards, Maxey, 28th pick (from PHI)

phillynative · Post #1476 » by **phillynative** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:42 pm

Lol im seeing rumors where Tims are interested in a trade but want to keep their man guys Dangelo,Edwards and Towns...

So what other assets do they have to give to us or a 3rd team.

Embiid-MVP · Post #1477 » by **Embiid-MVP** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:45 pm

Why's everyone so quick to give up Maxey. Chill with all that. If it's not a top 5-7 player for Ben and Maxey then he needs to not be included. LaVine and Rubio isn't good enough to include Maxey in the deal also. And I like LaVine a lot

51X3RF4N · Post #1478 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:28 pm

BNelley24 wrote:Probably beongs in fantasy thread, but who says no?

76ers get: Lavine, Rubio
Wolves get: Simmons, 4th pick (from CHI)
Bulls get: Edwards, Maxey, 28th pick (from PHI)

Philly says no.

Easily no.

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mhunt · Post #1479 » by **mhunt** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:35 pm

Maybe I'm overestimating the upgrade from Simmons to Lavine but I think it would take Maxey to get that done. I could probably do without the #28 pick for Rubio part of the trade...but it's not that unreasonable.

51X3RF4N · Post #1480 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:41 pm

mhunt wrote:Maybe I'm overestimating the upgrade from Simmons to Lavine but I think it would take Maxey to get that done. I could probably do without the #28 pick for Rubio part of the trade...but it's not that unreasonable.

LaVine is 26 and on an expiring contract.

I wouldn't be throwing in Maxey or a pick. Ben has more value than you're giving him credit for, and LaVine plus a pick or player is probably the baseline Morey is using to give up Ben.

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