Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live

eagereyez · Post #1481 » by **eagereyez** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 9:49 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Meniscus is not a big deal. Again as long as he doesn't break his foot or get a stress fracture then I'm not going to get all up in arms over normal wear and tear injury that many players get.

The meniscus on its own isnt worrying, but it is worrying that hes already experiencing wear and tear after only 30 games on a minutes restriction with 0 back to backs. Im hoping the tear was a pre-existing injury that went overlooked.

EBrandEra · Post #1482 » by **EBrandEra** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 9:52 pm

jbent87 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:Meniscus really isn't a big deal, but I guarantee you this means minutes restrictions again next year.

I'm fine with that. Embiid 28 minutes a game is still a superstar. I'm at the point now where I question his career.

31 games in 3 years.

Yeah, I'm not sure why people are so against a minutes restriction. Tim Duncan was able to lengthen his career because Popovich restricted his minutes as he got older.

With a player like Embiid, I think its SMART to limit his minutes for a year (or maybe two) so his body can re-acclimate to the wear and tear of an NBA season.

Also, Embiid can hustle, but he doesn't need to be tumbling into the stands and taking unnecessary risks with his body. I understand he was excited to get back on the court, but he also should know that he has to ease back while his body acclimates to the ramp up in activity.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1483 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 9:54 pm

When it rains, it pours.

JojoSlimbiid · Post #1484 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 9:54 pm

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Post #1485 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 9:55 pm

eagereyez wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Meniscus is not a big deal. Again as long as he doesn't break his foot or get a stress fracture then I'm not going to get all up in arms over normal wear and tear injury that many players get.

The meniscus on its own isnt worrying, but it is worrying that hes already experiencing wear and tear after only 30 games on a minutes restriction with 0 back to backs. Im hoping the tear was a pre-existing injury that went overlooked.

It wasn't wear and tear though, it wasn't an injury caused by usage. He happened to land awkwardly, twice, and then played in another game days later.

This also isn't a bone fracture so past injuries aren't relative. His bones held up.

Post #1486 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 9:58 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:
eagereyez wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Meniscus is not a big deal. Again as long as he doesn't break his foot or get a stress fracture then I'm not going to get all up in arms over normal wear and tear injury that many players get.

The meniscus on its own isnt worrying, but it is worrying that hes already experiencing wear and tear after only 30 games on a minutes restriction with 0 back to backs. Im hoping the tear was a pre-existing injury that went overlooked.

It wasn't wear and tear though, it wasn't an injury caused by usage. He happened to land awkwardly, twice, and then played in another game days later.

This also isn't a bone fracture so past injuries aren't relative. His bones held up.

Well no it sounds like the meniscus was worsened over the last month.

They've been as bad as possible explaining the situation as trying to figure out what happened is anyone's guess.

Arsenal · Post #1487 » by **Arsenal** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:00 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
eagereyez wrote:The meniscus on its own isnt worrying, but it is worrying that hes already experiencing wear and tear after only 30 games on a minutes restriction with 0 back to backs. Im hoping the tear was a pre-existing injury that went overlooked.

It wasn't wear and tear though, it wasn't an injury caused by usage. He happened to land awkwardly, twice, and then played in another game days later.

This also isn't a bone fracture so past injuries aren't relative. His bones held up.

Well no it sounds like the meniscus was worsened over the last month.

As far as we know, the last MRI was after the POR game and before the HOU game. Then the latest MRI this Monday. What happened in between was the HOU game.

eagereyez · Post #1488 » by **eagereyez** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:02 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:
eagereyez wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Meniscus is not a big deal. Again as long as he doesn't break his foot or get a stress fracture then I'm not going to get all up in arms over normal wear and tear injury that many players get.

The meniscus on its own isnt worrying, but it is worrying that hes already experiencing wear and tear after only 30 games on a minutes restriction with 0 back to backs. Im hoping the tear was a pre-existing injury that went overlooked.

It wasn't wear and tear though, it wasn't an injury caused by usage. He happened to land awkwardly, twice, and then played in another game days later.

This also isn't a bone fracture so past injuries aren't relative. His bones held up.

Are you saying it was or wasnt caused by his fall? The Sixers doctors reported that they werent sure if the tear was pre-existing or something new.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1489 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:02 pm

Meniscus injuries always worsen. It's what they do.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1490 » by **Unbreakable99** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:03 pm

I haven't really blamed the medical staff for all the injuries like many others but after how they mishandled Embiid afte he got hurt they need to clean house and start over.

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Post #1491 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:05 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
eagereyez wrote:The meniscus on its own isnt worrying, but it is worrying that hes already experiencing wear and tear after only 30 games on a minutes restriction with 0 back to backs. Im hoping the tear was a pre-existing injury that went overlooked.

It wasn't wear and tear though, it wasn't an injury caused by usage. He happened to land awkwardly, twice, and then played in another game days later.

This also isn't a bone fracture so past injuries aren't relative. His bones held up.

Well no it sounds like the meniscus was worsened over the last month.

Yeah, and I guess he didn't tear it when he landed awkwardly and it was only a bone bruise when he played in the Rockets game. Now that they're being transparent.

No, I'm going to assume it was always torn and it was either misdiagnosed or ignored so that he could play in a nationally televised game - which allowing a player to play with a tear would probably worsen it in most cases. I don't think that's not normal.

James40 · Post #1492 » by **James40** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:10 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Meniscus injuries always worsen. It's what they do.

I don't get what fans don't see here, besides the fact MRI's only show so much, who knows what else they'll find if he gets surgery, you only have so much cartilage in your knees. None of this is good news.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1493 » by **Unbreakable99** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:13 pm

Maybe it's best we don't get the Lakers pick this year and get it for 2018 when there are lots of big men. We might need to draft a backup or potential replacement for Embiid.

Post #1494 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:21 pm

He was allowed to return to land awkwardly again as well as play in another game after this happened... I'm not a doctor, but after the fact and with hindsight, this is probably when he tore his meniscus and I don't consider a player playing through injuries -possibly worsening it- typical wear and tear. That's negligence.

Post #1495 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:21 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:It wasn't wear and tear though, it wasn't an injury caused by usage. He happened to land awkwardly, twice, and then played in another game days later.

This also isn't a bone fracture so past injuries aren't relative. His bones held up.

Well no it sounds like the meniscus was worsened over the last month.

Yeah, and I guess he didn't tear it when he landed awkwardly and it was only a bone bruise when he played in the Rockets game. Now that they're being transparent.

No, I'm going to assume it was always torn and it was either misdiagnosed or ignored so that he could play in a nationally televised game - which allowing a player to play with a tear would probably worsen it in most cases. I don't think that's not normal.

I think it's a waste of the time to try to decipher what exactly happened here. He was playing one on one against Dario like a week ago. The level of incompetency has been truly terrifying. The last month has made the Bynum situation look competently handled.

76thBearCub · Post #1496 » by **76thBearCub** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:22 pm

I don't get how this is seen as anything less then borderline catastrophic given the context.

James40 · Post #1497 » by **James40** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:27 pm

mercman wrote:I'm not a 7'2" 275lb man, but I recovered from the worst type of meniscus tear in 3 months and was 100% to play in 4 months so there is NO reason Embiid shouldn't be ready to go by preseason.

I've had two on one knee, same issue with the worst one. Of course Jah had minor surgery on his knee as well.

I don't think anyone should count on him having years to play in the NBA, and have said that since day one. Talent wise he has superstar potential no one can deny that but health wise it doesn't look good for him long term.

We shouldn't forget Jrue's injury in all of this either, Howard, Fine, and Howard need to go.

snoopdogg88 · Post #1498 » by **snoopdogg88** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:41 pm

lol at people still trying to rationalize Embiid's injuries

just admit it people. he's done. he's never going to have a healthy career. injury busts happen. it sucks, but it happens.

its always going to be something with him

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1499 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 10:54 pm

The doctor on CSN said that the next step is to go in with a scope and see the severity of the meniscus issue. If it's a little frayed, it will need a slight trim, and it's 4-6 weeks. If it's a full tear, it's major surgery and 3-4 months. He said either way, he should be full-go for next season with no restrictions.

Note: he didn't factor in Dr. Kevorkian performing the surgery.

KrazySixersD · Post #1500 » by **KrazySixersD** » Wed Mar 1, 2017 11:20 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:The doctor on CSN said that the next step is to go in with a scope and see the severity of the meniscus issue. If it's a little frayed, it will need a slight trim, and it's 4-6 weeks. If it's a full tear, it's major surgery and 3-4 months. He said either way, he should be full-go for next season with no restrictions.

Note: he didn't factor in Dr. Kevorkian performing the surgery.

I logged back on just to see if there were any updates such as this by chance... perfect, just what I needed to hear. I knew this, but wanted to hear someone else say it as well. I myself have had 2 meniscus injuries, though one was much more severe as it also included cartilage tear and needed microfracture surgery and not just a meniscopy.

I don't see why he wouldn't be ready for next season.. there should be NO REASON. And honestly without simmons, its best we just not let him play rest of this season anyways.

If next year we dont have Embiid, Simmons, Saric, and whoever we draft this year 100% healthy at the start of the season, then I may just have to jump ship and stop even trying to follow this team as it has been nothing but heart ache and pain since Iverson left. I'm not sure I can take much more of it especially with ownership and incompetence like we have now