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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#161 » by ZarcMumoff » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:22 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
Mik317 wrote:
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Aren't you one of the guys who's been ripping me for making similar comments?


I was ripping you for insulting everyone whilst you do it. I have no issues with people hating on "the plan" just when they are kinda assholish about it (you) or just straight make up **** to prove their point (general board).

but no go on...dance around happy it. Can't stop you now.



I didn't insult anyone...didn't call anyone "assholish". Do you think I enjoy this farce? I was/am frustrated that so many Sixer fans have been hoodwinked and bamboozled to see the light.


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Post#162 » by MountainDrew » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:48 am

Well, this really sucks. Gonna have to wait it out though, might not be as bad as it first sounded.

Congratulations to the guys who were right all along... or something. Great job.
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Post#163 » by marcush » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:15 am

Yikes. Hopefully this is just the FO preparing us for a no show at Summer League.
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Post#164 » by Los5782 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:18 am

During his visit with Dr. Richard Ferkel, a standard CT scan on Joel's right foot revealed less healing than anticipated at this point.


Wonder if Hinkie is seeing the results quicker than he even anticipated. :lol: :lol:
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Post#165 » by cksdayoff » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:00 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:fml


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Post#166 » by willywazza » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:43 am

Let's not overreact people.
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Post#167 » by c3neely » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:49 am

Am I the only one starting to get sick of this "yea....but if we tank next year, imagine adding *insert top prospect* to our group!" ****

And if it wasn't a big deal I don't see why they prepped that statement. This smells all sorts of wrong.
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Post#168 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:01 am

I think that this is only devastating news if he requires more surgery.

If he doesn't, then I don't know why people think that this changes anything other than him probably not playing in the summer league.

I'm an optimist by nature, but never took his health for granted. The whole reason that we were able to get him is because of these concerns.

We all wait for more information now, and this obviously sucks, but we really have no reason to suspect that he needs more surgery.


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Post#169 » by BoomBap » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:05 am

DAMN!!!
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Post#170 » by Los5782 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:06 am

c3neely wrote:Am I the only one starting to get sick of this "yea....but if we tank next year, imagine adding *insert top prospect* to our group!" ****

And if it wasn't a big deal I don't see why they prepped that statement. This smells all sorts of wrong.



If anything I see them smokescreening for the draft, even with Embiid this team won't win many games... growing pains will be heavy with so much youth. With KP6 skyrocketing this past week, there's seemingly now 3 premier big men prospects in the draft, I can see Hinkie possibly trying to bait NY or Orlando. It's interesting how the sequence of events unfolded this week, again I've said it before not necessarily related to one another, but Russ cancelling workout, KP6 stock shooting up & this Embiid story.

Plus on top of everything else, all Hinkie & co. have said regarding Embiid's situation is that his progress isn't where they were anticipating / he isn't healing at the pace they expected; nothing about him re-injuring or any complications. Either they just want an excuse to sit him out an extra few months by skipping SL, or they're draft baiting. Possibly both.

Slightly possible maybe he is going very hard in workouts prematurely & thus slowing the bone healing. I don't think it's as bad as most are making it out to be.
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Post#171 » by Wilfried » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:37 am

To me, it's just another reason to take Okafor if he's available at #3.
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Post#172 » by Chamberlainship » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:01 pm

When Harris said he would do the Bynum deal all over again, he wasn't joking.

"The situation that the franchise is in right now, after a well-documented big trade that didn't end in a way that people are comfortable with . . . [is that] now you really have to face yourself in the mirror every day and look at the reality of what's here and the reality of what can be," Hinkie said.
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Post#173 » by guitarpath » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:21 pm

In terms of the upcoming draft, this news changes nothing. They will take the best player with the highest upside left at #3 regardless of Embiid's playing status.

I know everyone is freaking out and anticipating the worst (expecting an announcement soon that Embiid will undergo bone graft surgery and miss the season). We are conditioned to expect the worst. The 76ers have a long history of devastating injury news (Doug Collins, Andrew Toney, Jeff Ruland, Andrew Bynum, et.al.) This is Negadelphia for a reason.

Given what we currently know, this will likely affect the short-term (i.e. Embiid will not participate in the Summer League). They will alter his rehab schedule and take it slow with him. They will take the conservative approach, as they should. I don't think this is a big deal. Yet.
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Post#174 » by bmsmcr » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:23 pm

Uggg, this offseason has been taxing to my emotions so far. Makes me want to watch the draft pick and then shut out everything until the start of the season and hope for the best as far as who is starting.
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Post#175 » by TJ222 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:51 pm

Remember that "set-back" he had during the season?
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Post#176 » by Imdatboul11 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:16 pm

Wanted Mudiay before but since Embiid is never gonna be healthy we just need the guy with more superstar scoring so we need Russell now. Noel plays better at center anyway. Next year get Ben Simmons.
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Post#177 » by wickedwrister » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:47 pm

Man this thread really highlights people's ability to be process oriented and think long term (or not do those things at all). If you make the right call and it didn't work that doesn't mean it was wrong (staying on 20 in blackjack and the next card is an ace).

As long as Hinkle keeps getting the process right, he's got my confidence. Something can not work out and still be the right move.
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Post#178 » by Wilfried » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:52 pm

wickedwrister wrote:Man this thread really highlights people's ability to be process oriented and think long term (or not do those things at all). If you make the right call and it didn't work that doesn't mean it was wrong (staying on 20 in blackjack and the next card is an ace).

As long as Hinkle keeps getting the process right, he's got my confidence. Something can not work out and still be the right move.


True, but we all can aknowledge that Embiid is a very big part of that process.
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Post#179 » by Sixerscan » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:58 pm

Wilfried wrote:
wickedwrister wrote:Man this thread really highlights people's ability to be process oriented and think long term (or not do those things at all). If you make the right call and it didn't work that doesn't mean it was wrong (staying on 20 in blackjack and the next card is an ace).

As long as Hinkle keeps getting the process right, he's got my confidence. Something can not work out and still be the right move.


True, but we all can aknowledge that Embiid is a very big part of that process.
Superstar talents don't fall that easy and often in your lap.


He's a big part of the end result being a good one. The decision to pick him was right regardless (Unless they ignored some obvious aspect of his foot injury). Process is about decisions not results.

I guess he's important for the process, in that him succeeding vindicates the process in the eyes of people that only care about results.
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Post#180 » by roma258 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:25 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
wickedwrister wrote:Man this thread really highlights people's ability to be process oriented and think long term (or not do those things at all). If you make the right call and it didn't work that doesn't mean it was wrong (staying on 20 in blackjack and the next card is an ace).

As long as Hinkle keeps getting the process right, he's got my confidence. Something can not work out and still be the right move.


True, but we all can aknowledge that Embiid is a very big part of that process.
Superstar talents don't fall that easy and often in your lap.


He's a big part of the end result being a good one. The decision to pick him was right regardless (Unless they ignored some obvious aspect of his foot injury). Process is about decisions not results.

I guess he's important for the process, in that him succeeding vindicates the process in the eyes of people that only care about results.

I'm not sure I really understand this logic. At some point, outcome and results have to matter. Now there can be a debate on when that point is, but if we're 5 years down the road with nothing to show for it, than the process obviously failed. The assumption that seems to be taken for granted is that the process and decisions related to it are inherently the right course of action, but I don't know of any job that's out there where you don't have to actually validate those decisions....eventually.
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