2025 NBA Draft (2)

[Negrodamus]

Sixers are going to be one of the most electric teams in the NBA with Maxey and VJ on the court (without Embiid). That fast break is going to be insane.

VJ would get buried on the bench here behind 3 better guards in Maxey, Grimes and McCain.

[okboomer]

It would be the turn of events if after 6 weeks of who to pick Harper somehow falls to them.

[eyeatoma]

It would be the turn of events if after 6 weeks of who to pick Harper somehow falls to them.

It would be just like Fultz.

[zaz102]

It would be the turn of events if after 6 weeks of who to pick Harper somehow falls to them.

It would be just like Fultz.

You mean like Mama Harper installing cameras in his house and mailing his neighbors or not being able to shoot after an ankle sprain or something else?

[eyeatoma]

It would be the turn of events if after 6 weeks of who to pick Harper somehow falls to them.

It would be just like Fultz.

You mean like Mama Harper installing cameras in his house and mailing his neighbors or not being able to shoot after an ankle sprain or something else?

No like an unathletic gaurd who's calling card is passing, and driving/finishing at the rim, but is not a good shooter. Basically everyone has clear flaws other than Flagg. If the Spurs don't take him there is a reason. They are excellent talent evaluators. If he's not going to be as good as fox, they have no reason to take him.

[Arsenal]

Sixers are going to be one of the most electric teams in the NBA with Maxey and VJ on the court (without Embiid). That fast break is going to be insane.

VJ would get buried on the bench here behind 3 better guards in Maxey, Grimes and McCain.

Sad that after all these years you're still hating on Maxey. And I thought you were a McCain backer.

You don't agree that Maxey, Grimes and McCain will all be better than VJ next year?

[MVP1992]

I can't see any Team drafting between 4 & 8 wanting to give up fair compensation to move up to #3, let alone a nice over pay to make it worth it for Morey.


*Hot take* ; I still don't think Spurs select Harper.

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by MVP1992
Mon May 26, 2025 1:13 am
Forum: Philadelphia 76ers
Topic: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft
I'd be sceptical of the Spurs being willing to trade back with us. How sick would you feel if it came out they weren't going to pick Harper at #2 anyway. Fultz <->Tatum vibes."


I'm still feeling it.

[Arsenal]

I can't see any Team drafting between 4 & 8 wanting to give up fair compensation to move up to #3, let alone a nice over pay to make it worth it for Morey.


*Hot take* ; I still don't think Spurs select Harper.

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by MVP1992
Mon May 26, 2025 1:13 am
Forum: Philadelphia 76ers
Topic: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft
I'd be sceptical of the Spurs being willing to trade back with us. How sick would you feel if it came out they weren't going to pick Harper at #2 anyway. Fultz <->Tatum vibes."


I'm still feeling it.

Thankfully we don't have a moron who only got the job because of nepotism and a league initiated coup running the team anymore.

Morey won't get played like Collars did.

[Negrodamus]

VJ would get buried on the bench here behind 3 better guards in Maxey, Grimes and McCain.

Sad that after all these years you're still hating on Maxey. And I thought you were a McCain backer.

You don't agree that Maxey, Grimes and McCain will all be better than VJ next year?

I’m not going to help you critical thinking. If you think Grimes is some cornerstone of this franchise, I can’t help you. Yea, he’ll play more immediately because he’s a veteran. If Edgecombe surpasses him, then we launch him out of the building.

[OleSchool]

So.... any thoughts on Kasper? Lol

[Black Mage]

Most overused words/phrases for draft cycle 2025:

shot diet
“in shoes”
overthink
Rim pressure

Anything else?

POLARIZING! One guy wrote it and EVERY other sports person just repeats it.

[Jailblazers7]

I think Kon would be the perfect fit in San Antonio. Castle + Victor help clean up any defensive issues he has. He’s an elite shooter, has great feel in PnR, and has proven he can switch roles depending on the talent around him.

Taking him at 2 feels a little crazy because of his athletic limitations but he’s the best on court fit for that team and it’s not close imo.

[Arsenal]

So.... any thoughts on Kasper? Lol

If we trade back to 7 or 8 I’m down. His upside potential as a lead guard is tempting.

[stormi]

I think comps as we all know is not an exact science with exact measurables, we all know that. The floor is pretty scary with VJ especially with our glut of guards.

Getting preoccupied with positional fit when drafting 3rd is traditionally a recipe for disaster. Gotta take the best player available (whoever you deem that to be) and figure out the rest later.

Bpa is my take as well. Ace ticks both boxes. Tre and VJ only tick bpa.

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If we're following Morey-ism as a draft guide, we're weighing HS draft pedigree highly, draft class status ↑ over age ↓, free throw shooting, and then underlying numbers as his key pillars.

— Maxey, Springer and McCain were all five star recruits, all freshman.

— Only Springer was still 18 on draft night. Maxey was 19.6 and McCain was 20.3.

— All three shot >80% from the stripe. McCain 88%, Maxey 83%, Springer 81%.

— McCain and Springer both posted strong box plus minus numbers. 6.9 for Springer, 8.5 for McCain.

Using these loose categories as a reference.

— Ace, Tre and VJ were all five star recruits. KK was a four star. All freshman.

— KK shot 91% from the stripe, Tre shot 87%, VJ shot 78% and Ace shot 69% from the line.

In terms of box plus minus, Ace posted a 4.5, Tre 7.7, KK 10.8, VJ 11.4.

Kon checks three of four boxes (HS pedigree). VJ loosely checks every box (ft%). Tre loosely checks every box (BPM). Ace checks two of four boxes (ft%, underlying statistics).

Morey's too intune with the numbers to select a poor performing highlight reel machine.

I'd reckon if we're staying at three, the obvious selection is VJ. If the conspiracy is true that we're trying to flush a swap with Charlotte (makes absolutely no sense), the target could very likely be Tre. If there was a trade back with the Pelicans, I'd say the target was KK.

[Black Mage]

In defense of Ace, when watching Rutgers, it popped to me how abysmal the rest of the team was, specifically turnovers, bad shooting, and not getting open.

You can compare the numbers between Rutgers (sans Ace and Harper), Baylor (sans VJ), and Texas (sans Tre). You can see how bad the shooting especially the 3 point shooting was at Rutgers as compared to the other teams. You can also see the TOs were a level worse than the others.

I still wish Ace could find a way to get his assists and inside shooting/free throw rate up, but I do think its reasonable to think those numbers might go up a bit if the rest of the team was more competent and there was more plays ran for Ace rather than just isoball.

That's not possible Zaz, Derek Bodner and Rafael Barlowe keep telling us all how bad Texas was! That's why Tre didn't play defense or why he had bad body language. He had the worst teammates and coaching! So Texas HAS to be worse than Rutgers!

[Arsenal]

I think Kon would be the perfect fit in San Antonio. Castle + Victor help clean up any defensive issues he has. He’s an elite shooter, has great feel in PnR, and has proven he can switch roles depending on the talent around him.

Taking him at 2 feels a little crazy because of his athletic limitations but he’s the best on court fit for that team and it’s not close imo.

Why won’t they pick him? All the analytics NERDS say Kon is the 2nd best prospect in the entire draft.

[76ciology]

Im also not a big fan of VJ Edgecombe at #3 but having these 4 at 1-4 positions would be TO nightmare for the opponent

Maxey (1.8 steals per game; 9th league)
Edgecombe (3.8 stl%; elite)
Paul George (3.9 deflections; 6th league)
Kelly Oubre (4.2 deflections; 3rd league)

[Black Mage]

Kon is just a shooter, and personally admitted to not wanting to score inside or in the midrange.

First of all, maybe you can argue that somebody like Corey Kispert is just a shooter, but not Kon. Other aspects of his game such as his handle and vision for his position are good.

Second of all, you're taking a fair bit of creative license with the interview that was posted.

Kon did not mention not wanting to score inside. That is an absurd take as he has better numbers going to the rim and finishing than many of the prospects in the Sixers range.

https://databallr.com/NBADraft/profile/Kon_Knueppel/126925

Kon did not mention not wanting to score from the midrange. He specifically cited working on that more as he thinks it's a great shot for him.

What he mentioned is that he didn't take that shot in High School and it wasn't really part of Duke's strategy.

Unlike some peoples' Lord and Savior, Kon Knueppel is a willing scorer that doesn't take dumb shots outside of the offensive plan.

Now of course, he's got to display a little more of a pull-up or floater game in the pros as that's a good shot for him and gives him more offensive options. There's little reason to believe that a self-aware, disciplined, and high-IQ sniper who can hit long-range bombs cannot add a better midrange game to the mix. That is a totally realistic aspiration for him to develop that.

Kon said he's not comfortable taking jumpers midrange which is why he didn't in HS or college. The man said it himself. A shooter afraid to shoot when spaces got tighter. He's great bombing from WIDE open looks, cause those always exist in the pro's.

[Arsenal]

Sad that after all these years you're still hating on Maxey. And I thought you were a McCain backer.

You don't agree that Maxey, Grimes and McCain will all be better than VJ next year?

I’m not going to help you critical thinking. If you think Grimes is some cornerstone of this franchise, I can’t help you. Yea, he’ll play more immediately because he’s a veteran. If Edgecombe surpasses him, then we launch him out of the building.

I’m not sure VJ will ever be as good as Grimes. He has a long way to go offensively to compare with what Grimes showed last season.

[Arsenal]

Im also not a big fan of VJ Edgecombe at #3 but having these 4 at 1-4 positions would be TO nightmare for the opponent

Maxey (1.8 steals per game; 9th league)
Edgecombe (3.8 stl%; elite)
Paul George (3.9 deflections; 6th league)
Kelly Oubre (4.2 deflections; 3rd league)

It would also be a nightmare for our offense since 2 of those 4 guys can’t shoot.