So what's the pivot? (Beal, Lavine, or smaller moves)? - Post Harden ideas and rumors

ankle420breaker · Post #1801 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Mar 9, 2021 6:52 pm

Damn. I really wanted a 3rd Ilyasova tour.

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spikeslovechild · Post #1802 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Mar 9, 2021 7:10 pm

Stanford wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:
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Hes not, Embiid owns him. It's just annoying.

Isn't this gonna eat into their MLE and leave us a clearer path to sign buyout guys like OPJ and whoever else shakes out?

Name a more ideal buyout guy for the Nets than Drummond (the greatest defensive player of all time, one might add)

Porter would fit well. They need defensive players whether they be wings OR bigs but wings who can shoot the three and pay two positions are more valuable.

They can have Drummond if we can get Porter pretty confident porter if healthy will have a much bigger impact in a 7 game series besides Drummond isn't getting 15 FGA to average 17 PTS on that BKN team. You guys are going to be surprised at how much his numbers are going to fall once he gets there.

It's also a really dumb move on Drummond part because he still wants to by all reports get paid which A) Will be affected by his reduced opportunities there B) He will be going to an overthecap team with already 3 max guys and some other expensive contracts who are not going to offer him a big deal in FA. His legacy isn't really going to be changed by joining that Nets team so why sacrifice future money? His agent needs to talk some sense into him

PhillyFan11 · Post #1803 » by **PhillyFan11** » Tue Mar 9, 2021 7:42 pm

youngcrev wrote:I imagine an offer for Fournier would involve our bench trash expirings + a 1st or a couple 2nds rather than key pieces in our rotation.

Is a 4-1 trade even possible with roster limits (honest question)? Scott, Ferguson, Poirier, and Bradley would work in theory salary wise I believe.

agiaco · Post #1804 » by **agiaco** » Tue Mar 9, 2021 8:30 pm

The point is that the best team in the east just added a significant amount of talent through the buyout market and at their biggest position of need. Doesn't matter if Embiid owns Drummond or not. He's still way better than Jordan and playing small ball with Bruce Brown. Philly does need to make a couple of moves to keep up with the Nets.

youngcrev · Post #1805 » by **youngcrev** » Tue Mar 9, 2021 9:34 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
youngcrev wrote:I imagine an offer for Fournier would involve our bench trash expirings + a 1st or a couple 2nds rather than key pieces in our rotation.

Is a 4-1 trade even possible with roster limits (honest question)? Scott, Ferguson, Poirier, and Bradley would work in theory salary wise I believe.

They'd need to create roster spots by cutting players or sending them to us via T.E.

spikeslovechild · Post #1806 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Mar 9, 2021 9:56 pm

agiaco wrote:The point is that the best team in the east just added a significant amount of talent through the buyout market and at their biggest position of need. Doesn't matter if Embiid owns Drummond or not. He's still way better than Jordan and playing small ball with Bruce Brown. Philly does need to make a couple of moves to keep up with the Nets.

It is far from being official

His agent still has some time to talk sense into him. The Lakers would be a much better option for him

76ciology · Post #1807 » by **76ciology** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:27 pm

‪Teams should throw double and get the ball out of Biid’s hands down the stretch.‬

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Sixersftw · Post #1808 » by **Sixersftw** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:01 pm

76ciology wrote:‪Teams should throw double and get the ball out of Biid’s hands down the stretch.‬

You say that as if he isn't doubled almost every time he touches it. Double him or get toe tagged. See Gobert, Rudy.

kriss73 · Post #1809 » by **kriss73** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:01 pm

Don't know if it's true but they are all logical targets (cost/opportunity)

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Murray_17 · Post #1810 » by **Murray_17** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:46 pm

76ciology wrote:‪Teams should throw double and get the ball out of Biid’s hands down the stretch.‬

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Stats like this are useless outside of the first column (and that's being generous), the sample is too low to say anything valuable.

In the case of Mitchell, however, the volume of shooting he carry is one of the bigger mysteries of the entire league for me, the Jazz could be even better by distributing some of his shoots around and they have the personel to do it.

Murray_17 · Post #1811 » by **Murray_17** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:49 pm

kriss73 wrote:Don't know if it's true but they are all logical targets (cost/opportunity)

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Barton and Tucker are the best options of those.

But Barton would be expensive and we don't have nothing to offer to Denver. Tucker is not comming unless he gets buyout

HardenToSixers · Post #1812 » by **HardenToSixers** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:10 pm

Stanford wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:Why is Drummond a concern for us?

Hes not, Embiid owns him. It's just annoying.

Even with Embiid owning him it's very quality depth. And he's better than Deandre.

Kobblehead · Post #1813 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:24 pm

Delon Wright is the only guy on that list that can still create and defend.

Skates · Post #1814 » by **Skates** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:11 am

Kobblehead wrote:Delon Wright is the only guy on that list that can still create and defend.

Ellington and Wright for expiring contracts and a first and second would be a really nice deal. Follow that up with a veteran pickup at the three/four or four/five spot to replace Scott and I would call that a huge improvement for our chances.

Tomjas · Post #1815 » by **Tomjas** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:18 am

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eyeatoma · Post #1816 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:19 am

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Until the deadline I still believe this is posturing. It behooves Toronto to try and get something for Lowry before he expires.

Kobblehead · Post #1817 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:20 am

Looks like the Raptors have finally came to the conclusion that it's literally impossible to trade a 5'4" 250 pound 38 year old on a $30m expiring contract.

Buyout or nothing.

Tomjas · Post #1818 » by **Tomjas** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:27 am

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Until the deadline I still believe this is posturing. It behooves Toronto to try and get something for Lowry before he expires.

He will either be extended or traded

As you say, letting him walk for nothing makes no sense

the_process · Post #1819 » by **the_process** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:29 am

LMA is available now. He'd be an upgrade on Dwight. Maybe he can steal a few mins at PF still?

the_process · Post #1820 » by **the_process** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:31 am

Tomjas wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Tomjas wrote:

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Until the deadline I still believe this is posturing. It behooves Toronto to try and get something for Lowry before he expires.

He will either be extended or traded

As you say, letting him walk for nothing makes no sense

I believe the trade rumors were Lowry trying to put pressure on the Raptors to re-sign him. I don't know if they just can just let him walk. That's a lot of fan backlash. And that market is nuts :lol:

What is the pivot now that Harden is gone? Votes can be changed