Fantasy Trade Thread

[smittybanton]

Don't know if you remember Hakim Warrick. Also from Philly. Similar game.

Third year of his rookie deal. Don't know if Nets want to pay him or not. I have no idea what they're doing. They went out and spent $$ on Allen Crabbe and Demarre Caroll. RHJ still getting inconsistent minutes. Probably don't trust his three pointer just yet.

.286 (15-16) .712
.224 (16-17) .751
.333 (17-18) .857

I believe in development and getting guys before they pop. Although I like Justise Winslow's all around game more, I think RHJ is a safer bet to develop a reliable three pointer.

I'd like to think a first round pick can get him. But I'm not sure. Interesting thing is, Justin Anderson was drafted two spots ahead of RHJ, and I liked RHJ better then and now.

Others may disagree.

With no five other than Mozgov, I'd be trying to push Okafor and Justin Anderson. If they insisted on Richaun and Justin Anderson, I'd grit my teeth and do it. Simmons, RHJ, Covington and Embiid would be so much defense, speed and athleticism, it'd be scary.

I always liked RHJ better than Winslow. Better handle better court vision. But I don't know that I believe his shooting will be any better than Winslow's long term. He may get there, but he had more to fix.

Yeah, I like him still, but Winslow has been a notch less than I thought he'd be and RHJ has been a notch better than I thought. I'd love to have either.

That said, I think if we look at Colangelo's track record, getting Aaron Gordon is not out of the question. He's the type of four Colangelo usually gets, shoots well and plays above the rim: Stoudamire, Bosh, maybe even throw Marion in that mix. Better rebounders than shotblockers. Shoulders instead of arms. That's Aaron Gordon.

Magic have to decide what to do with Gordon and Elfrid Payton. They didn't sign him to an extension, so giving him a max deal is not a no-brainer for them. They may do the same thing they did with Harris and Oladipo, match a free agent offer and then trade him later so they don't get nothing. If that's their thinking, they could make that move before this summer as well as after. Pretty sure they drafted Jonathan Isaac as an insurance policy, and he's doing fine.

If the Magic ball out, maybe they re-sign him. If they don't do it this year with all the pieces they have, then something's got to give. If Isaac is the real deal, I might be looking at TJ McConnell and Dario Saric, instead of paying Payton or Gordon.

[LloydFree]

Don't know if you remember Hakim Warrick. Also from Philly. Similar game.

Third year of his rookie deal. Don't know if Nets want to pay him or not. I have no idea what they're doing. They went out and spent $$ on Allen Crabbe and Demarre Caroll. RHJ still getting inconsistent minutes. Probably don't trust his three pointer just yet.

.286 (15-16) .712
.224 (16-17) .751
.333 (17-18) .857

I believe in development and getting guys before they pop. Although I like Justise Winslow's all around game more, I think RHJ is a safer bet to develop a reliable three pointer.

I'd like to think a first round pick can get him. But I'm not sure. Interesting thing is, Justin Anderson was drafted two spots ahead of RHJ, and I liked RHJ better then and now.

Others may disagree.

With no five other than Mozgov, I'd be trying to push Okafor and Justin Anderson. If they insisted on Richaun and Justin Anderson, I'd grit my teeth and do it. Simmons, RHJ, Covington and Embiid would be so much defense, speed and athleticism, it'd be scary.

I always liked RHJ better than Winslow. Better handle better court vision. But I don't know that I believe his shooting will be any better than Winslow's long term. He may get there, but he had more to fix.

Yeah, I like him still, but Winslow has been a notch less than I thought he'd be and RHJ has been a notch better than I thought. I'd love to have either.

That said, I think if we look at Colangelo's track record, getting Aaron Gordon is not out of the question. He's the type of four Colangelo usually gets, shoots well and plays above the rim: Stoudamire, Bosh, maybe even throw Marion in that mix. Better rebounders than shotblockers. Shoulders instead of arms. That's Aaron Gordon.

Magic have to decide what to do with Gordon and Elfrid Payton. They didn't sign him to an extension, so giving him a max deal is not a no-brainer for them. They may do the same thing they did with Harris and Oladipo, match a free agent offer and then trade him later so they don't get nothing. If that's their thinking, they could make that move before this summer as well as after. Pretty sure they drafted Jonathan Isaac as an insurance policy, and he's doing fine.

If the Magic ball out, maybe they re-sign him. If they don't do it this year with all the pieces they have, then something's got to give. If Isaac is the real deal, I might be looking at TJ McConnell and Dario Saric, instead of paying Payton or Gordon.

Its too late. The cats out of the bag on Gordon. We should have pounced when we saw Orlando's white board showing they'd trade Gordon for Saric. Lol. Gordon is getting the Max next year and the Magic will match anything he gets.

[smittybanton]

I always liked RHJ better than Winslow. Better handle better court vision. But I don't know that I believe his shooting will be any better than Winslow's long term. He may get there, but he had more to fix.

Yeah, I like him still, but Winslow has been a notch less than I thought he'd be and RHJ has been a notch better than I thought. I'd love to have either.

That said, I think if we look at Colangelo's track record, getting Aaron Gordon is not out of the question. He's the type of four Colangelo usually gets, shoots well and plays above the rim: Stoudamire, Bosh, maybe even throw Marion in that mix. Better rebounders than shotblockers. Shoulders instead of arms. That's Aaron Gordon.

Magic have to decide what to do with Gordon and Elfrid Payton. They didn't sign him to an extension, so giving him a max deal is not a no-brainer for them. They may do the same thing they did with Harris and Oladipo, match a free agent offer and then trade him later so they don't get nothing. If that's their thinking, they could make that move before this summer as well as after. Pretty sure they drafted Jonathan Isaac as an insurance policy, and he's doing fine.

If the Magic ball out, maybe they re-sign him. If they don't do it this year with all the pieces they have, then something's got to give. If Isaac is the real deal, I might be looking at TJ McConnell and Dario Saric, instead of paying Payton or Gordon.

Its too late. The cats out of the bag on Gordon. We should have pounced when we saw Orlando's white board showing they'd trade Gordon for Saric. Lol. Gordon is getting the Max next year and the Magic will match anything he gets.

He's definitely getting the max. And they'll definitely match. I think they already knew he was capable of this. It's obvious now for sure. But I think there wasnt much doubt going into the season. [I'm reaping the rewards in my fantasy leagues. Lol.]

But with them and their track record, I like to think of it as his price tag going up. It's not the same as baseball, but Orlando is a small market town and the bottom line is profit. Tobias Harris. Victor Oladipo. They knew those guys were good. They just don't want to pay 'em.

Shoot, the Phillies are about to get Giancarlo Stanton from the Marlins for the same reason.

Fournier, Vucevic, Biyombo, Ross, Simmons. Any other team, and I'd have less hope.

TJ has upped his trade value as well, I think. Dario, kind of. Draft picks, cap space, yada yada...

[Kobblehead]

Gordon is shooting 58% from three on 2.6 makes per game. He's shot under 30% every year of his career, up to this point.

I don't think his scoring is real. Once his three point stroke turns back into a pumpkin, his scoring average will probably fall back to the 13-15 point spectrum.

[LloydFree]

Gordon is shooting 58% from three on 2.6 makes per game. He's shot under 30% every year of his career, up to this point.

I don't think his scoring is real. Once his three point stroke turns back into a pumpkin, his scoring average will probably fall back to the 13-15 point spectrum.

Of course he isn't going to keep shooting nearly this well, but If a team plays him at PF, like they're supposed to, he can shoot as low as 32% from 3 and still get the Max.

[smittybanton]

Gordon is shooting 58% from three on 2.6 makes per game. He's shot under 30% every year of his career, up to this point.

I don't think his scoring is real. Once his three point stroke turns back into a pumpkin, his scoring average will probably fall back to the 13-15 point spectrum.

Clearly unsustainable. I think he'll settle in between 31-34%. The key is the coaching asking him to take 2.6 a game. That says they think he has a stroke, I think. Same way I really like the way TLC is shooting with confidence.

The Magic got slapped up by 20 at home by the Bulls last night. The Bulls started David Nwaba and Justin Holiday. I seriously question whether the Magic is going to give out a max or near max deal (AND KEEP HIM) if they aren't winning. Regardless his individual stats, if he's not a 'difference maker' in terms of wins and losses, I can see them re-shuffling the deck once again. Especially if/when, as you say, his shooting comes back to Earth.

I think BC wants a four who plays above the rim. He didn't draft Dario, who for all his grit is also showing his limitations as far as finishing around the basket.

I'm looking out for other targets. BC is usually not a guy who sits on his hands. Now that Ben has proven he can guard much smaller men, I kind of expect him to fill that four spot with someone of his choosing.

Besides the injuries, Jabari Parker is a Colangelo-type of guy.

At the same time, he could just be waiting on Jonah Bolden.

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Totally curious: If we had our choice between the three, who would you want between Dario Saric, Aaron Gordon and Rondae Hollis Jefferson?

Anyone else is free to chime in.

[smittybanton]

Justise Winslow scored three points with three rebounds, one steal and one 3-pointer in 14 minutes against the Nuggets on Friday.
With Coach Erik Spoelstra starting Okaro White over Winslow, things aren't looking very good. He's struggling at the line, the defensive stats aren't there, he's not dropping dimes and he has a 14.8 usage rate. He's also seen his playing time drop in each of his last two and he's really not getting run at the three too much. If you've had Justise on your fantasy team for this long that may be why your wins low. Nov 4 - 1:25 AM

Oooh, oooh, please, please....

I still think Justise Winslow is much better than Justin Anderson. If he's falling out of the rotation in Miami, give them Okafor and Anderson for Winslow.

We need a defensive bully who guards everyone, outmuscled by noone, gets out on the break with Simmons and flushes on peoples heads. There may be better options, but maybe not cheaper ones. I want a Marcus Smart type player without it being Marcus Smart.

[LloydFree]

Justise Winslow scored three points with three rebounds, one steal and one 3-pointer in 14 minutes against the Nuggets on Friday.
With Coach Erik Spoelstra starting Okaro White over Winslow, things aren't looking very good. He's struggling at the line, the defensive stats aren't there, he's not dropping dimes and he has a 14.8 usage rate. He's also seen his playing time drop in each of his last two and he's really not getting run at the three too much. If you've had Justise on your fantasy team for this long that may be why your wins low. Nov 4 - 1:25 AM

Oooh, oooh, please, please....

I still think Justise Winslow is much better than Justin Anderson. If he's falling out of the rotation in Miami, give them Okafor and Anderson for Winslow.

We need a defensive bully who guards everyone, outmuscled by noone, gets out on the break with Simmons and flushes on peoples heads. There may be better options, but maybe not cheaper ones. I want a Marcus Smart type player without it being Marcus Smart.

Why not Marcus Smart?

[Kobblehead]

Totally curious: If we had our choice between the three, who would you want between Dario Saric, Aaron Gordon and Rondae Hollis Jefferson?

I think Gordon is the best player with the least appealing financial situation. I think Saric is the worst player with the most advantageous financial situation.

I need to see what Gordon looks like the rest of the year to determine if I think he's a piece capable of putting us over the top or not.

I'm not a huge fan of RHJ, though. His defense is inconsistent (so is Gordon's) and the fact that he's an athletic 220 pounder with a 7'2" wingspan and can't finish concerns me. He's a career 58% finisher and that's where 47% of his FGA occur. If you can't shoot, ideally you'd be a plus finisher. Unfortunately for him, he can't do either.

[PhilasFinest]

Aaron Gordon would be fun to watch running the floor with Simmons.

[76ciology]

Tatum and Theis for Covington and Holmes.

[tsmith]

Tatum and Theis for Covington and Holmes.

I wouldn't do that but watch the Celtics fans see this and blow up.

[Baller1234a]

Tatum and Theis for Covington and Holmes.

Simmons and Anderson for Morris and Thies

Seems fair.

[76ciology]

Tatum and Theis for Covington and Holmes.

Simmons and Anderson for Morris and Thies

Seems fair.

Jonathon Simmons and James Anderson aren't playing for Sixers

[Baller1234a]

Tatum and Theis for Covington and Holmes.

Simmons and Anderson for Morris and Thies

Seems fair.

Jonathon Simmons and James Anderson aren't playing for Sixers

Ben Simmons and Justin Anderson are...

[smittybanton]

Simmons and Anderson for Morris and Thies

Seems fair.

Jonathon Simmons and James Anderson aren't playing for Sixers

Ben Simmons and Justin Anderson are...

Would you do Rozier for Anderson?

[Baller1234a]

Jonathon Simmons and James Anderson aren't playing for Sixers

Ben Simmons and Justin Anderson are...

Would you do Rozier for Anderson?

No. We need him in the 2nd unit.
Saric and Okafor for Nader and Clippers pick?

OK4 for Nader
Saric for Clippers pick


Baynes Thies OK4
Horford Saric
Tatum Morris
Brown Rozier
Kyrie Smart

[smittybanton]

Washburn compliments Okafor for the way he has handled a difficult situation and says the No. 3 pick in the 2015 draft has kept himself in good shape despite the lack of playing time. The Bucks, Cavaliers, Spurs and Nuggets also have interest in Okafor, according to Sam Amico of AmicoHoops, but so far no one is willing to meet the Sixers‘ asking price.

Denver has several pieces I like:
I still like Mudiay (I know y'all don't).
I'd also take a flyer on Trey Lyles. Would like to see him compete with Saric and Anderson.
Malik Beasley? ok.

[smittybanton]

Ben Simmons and Justin Anderson are...

Would you do Rozier for Anderson?

No. We need him in the 2nd unit.
Saric and Okafor for Nader and Clippers pick?

OK4 for Nader
Saric for Clippers pick


Baynes Thies OK4
Horford Saric
Tatum Morris
Brown Rozier
Kyrie Smart

Nah. Not a fan. Okafor and Anderson for the Clippers pick? With CP3 gone, if Blake goes down, that's 2 second round picks for whoever gets caught holding the bag.

[Baller1234a]

Would you do Rozier for Anderson?

No. We need him in the 2nd unit.
Saric and Okafor for Nader and Clippers pick?

OK4 for Nader
Saric for Clippers pick


Baynes Thies OK4
Horford Saric
Tatum Morris
Brown Rozier
Kyrie Smart

Nah. Not a fan. Okafor and Anderson for the Clippers pick? With CP3 gone, if Blake goes down, that's 2 second round picks for whoever gets caught holding the bag.

BOS pick for Saric?