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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#321 » by Stanford » Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:02 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If he’s scoring the most points per minute of all time, then he should continue to score. Is this a trick question?


I guess the argument is that it's not sustainable beyond the first round of the playoffs. I think that's more about his conditioning/health than his approach though.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#322 » by Black Mage » Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:39 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:If he’s scoring the most points per minute of all time, then he should continue to score. Is this a trick question?


I guess the argument is that it's not sustainable beyond the first round of the playoffs. I think that's more about his conditioning/health than his approach though.


It can be fine. It's more about how he gets those points. He needs to stop the reckless drives to the basket. Sadly, stop the crazy dunks and just lay the ball up instead. Limit the types of plays that puts your knee at risk of an awkward landing, etc.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#323 » by LloydFree » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:05 pm

I kinda like the Reggie Jackson signing. I've never been a huge fan of his game, but I like his attitude. He plays with irrational confidence. He's not scared and he won't wilt when they put him in there.

Next, the team needs another tough guy. Preferably one that can grab rebounds.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#324 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:29 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If he’s scoring the most points per minute of all time, then he should continue to score. Is this a trick question?



I agree with this, only issue is the risks he takes, and it's not physically sustainable for him. That being said, he's not the type of player who can take it easy. He only has 1 level, play all out. Any drop off, and it looks like he's a different player.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#325 » by mjkvol » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:29 pm

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Tatum gave him 50 while Joel was needing pep talks from PJ Tucker.

He needs to just win and stop worrying about everyone else.


Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#326 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:30 pm

Stanford wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If he’s scoring the most points per minute of all time, then he should continue to score. Is this a trick question?


I guess the argument is that it's not sustainable beyond the first round of the playoffs. I think that's more about his conditioning/health than his approach though.


Which is why at this point it's beyond me that he hasn't lost 30 lbs. I mean billions of people are like that, so not really beyond me, just the fact that it's so easily in reach with the professional help he gets, he has the highest chance of success with it, unlike others.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#327 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:34 pm

mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:Tatum gave him 50 while Joel was needing pep talks from PJ Tucker.

He needs to just win and stop worrying about everyone else.


Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


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Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


Clearly you haven't read my posts in the last two pages. All I've been saying is that he needs to lose weight. I also don't think he's capable of playing a different way. I've largely avoided the GB this summer, but I can refer to it.

Also Tatum is a loser, who lucked out being drafted by the Celtics. On any other team he wouldn't even be a top 15 player. The dude has ridden the coattails of organisational success his whole career. Inspite of Jo's injuries if the team was built even 90% close to what Tatum's are built like they would have won a chip. They had it with the Jimmy team, and then ripped it apart. Me saying he's right about Tatum is completely fine and is not a meme.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#328 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:50 pm

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#329 » by AI_Efficiency » Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:17 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


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Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


Clearly you haven't read my posts in the last two pages. All I've been saying is that he needs to lose weight. I also don't think he's capable of playing a different way. I've largely avoided the GB this summer, but I can refer to it.

Also Tatum is a loser, who lucked out being drafted by the Celtics. On any other team he wouldn't even be a top 15 player. The dude has ridden the coattails of organisational success his whole career. Inspite of Jo's injuries if the team was built even 90% close to what Tatum's are built like they would have won a chip. They had it with the Jimmy team, and then ripped it apart. Me saying he's right about Tatum is completely fine and is not a meme.

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Do you have any numbers to support that you could just replace Tatum with Embiid and still win? Tatum has averaged a pretty healthy ppg on solid TS% and low turnovers in the playoffs. Embiid hasn’t (at least with turnovers where he literally averages more turnovers than assists per game in the playoffs). If you want to say it’s because Embiid hasn’t been healthy, than fine, but that’s somewhat its own problem. But Embiid has been pretty mediocre in the playoffs and worse than Tatum imo. Now that I’m looking, a non-trivial number of advanced metrics seem to like Tatum in the playoffs too.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#330 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:28 pm

AI_Efficiency wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


Clearly you haven't read my posts in the last two pages. All I've been saying is that he needs to lose weight. I also don't think he's capable of playing a different way. I've largely avoided the GB this summer, but I can refer to it.

Also Tatum is a loser, who lucked out being drafted by the Celtics. On any other team he wouldn't even be a top 15 player. The dude has ridden the coattails of organisational success his whole career. Inspite of Jo's injuries if the team was built even 90% close to what Tatum's are built like they would have won a chip. They had it with the Jimmy team, and then ripped it apart. Me saying he's right about Tatum is completely fine and is not a meme.

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Do you have any numbers to support that you could just replace Tatum with Embiid and still win? Tatum has averaged a pretty healthy ppg on solid TS% and low turnovers in the playoffs. Embiid hasn’t (at least with turnovers where he literally averages more turnovers than assists per game in the playoffs). If you want to say it’s because Embiid hasn’t been healthy, than fine, but that’s somewhat its own problem. But Embiid has been pretty mediocre in the playoffs and worse than Tatum imo. Now that I’m looking, a non-trivial number of advanced metrics seem to like Tatum in the playoffs too.


Looking at playoff metrics is going to be a fools errand because he is often injured. The better stuff will come from the regular season. It's all noisy data, but again, Tatum is able to average that, because he doesn't have the defense zoned in on him the whole damn time.

Tatum's good numbers are a product of his good team. If he had to have higher volume, with less help his numbers would plummet.

Also not all of those numbers pulled were from the last three years. That is the time Embiid turned himself into an MVP player.

Let's dig deeper.

1st game was against Miami in 2018. If I recall correctly he had a broken orbital. LOL at the guy adding that to the numbers. Also not MVP Joel.

Game 2, this is the Brooklyn game he got hurt in. Again, he was playing fine, it was a different Embiid because the Nets were using terrorist defense and literally trying to hurt Joel. Jo missed the rest of the series and returned with another knee injury to play boston. Remember that series went 7. Just lol at this ridiculous lack of context from this guy.

Game 3 - Kawhi Raptors series, mud butt. Kawhi hit one of the greatest shots of all time. Embiid not his MVP self.

Game 4 - Knicks series, lol at this guy having the audacity to include these lines when Embiid played with half a face, and 1 leg. Inspite of that he hit 50 in this series, and the Sixers didn't lose the series because of him. 1st game of MVP form Joel btw.

Game 5 This is the Raptors Series the Sixers won, it's the Raptors series Embiid hit a game winner in, and the same series that he had his head caved in by Pascal's elbow. This was game one of the series, and by far his worst. Embiid was dominant for the rest of that series, and we looked like contenders until the orbital fracture.

As you can see context is key. Without context you can say whatever you want and with social media, it's easy to use this stuff to pick holes in people's argument. Fact of the matter is, his biggest downfall will be health and conditioning. What I dont' like are idiots on twitter posting things and trying to defend a baseless argument without actually putting in the effort to offer valid context.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#331 » by Eyeamok » Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:40 pm

mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:Tatum gave him 50 while Joel was needing pep talks from PJ Tucker.

He needs to just win and stop worrying about everyone else.


Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments?


Man that hurt my feelings and I am not even Embiid. But if I was and I saw this I'd come looking for you. But post like this are awesome. Good Job sir.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#332 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:51 pm

It is massively disappointing to see Embiid on a grievance tour leading into a season where he’ll have the best roster of his career. It’s just enormous loser energy & makes me lose any confidence I had left in him. It’s especially disheartening to see him complain about the Celtics being so talented when he no-showed against them in a game 7 two years ago.

I don’t think he’s learned anything & at this point I'm not sure he ever will.
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Post#333 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:52 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:It is massively disappointing to see Embiid on a grievance tour leading into a season where he’ll have the best roster of his career. It’s just enormous loser energy & makes me lose any confidence I had left in him. It’s especially disheartening to see him complain about the Celtics being so talented when he no-showed against them in a game 7 two years ago.

I don’t think he’s learned anything & at this point I'm not sure he ever will.



It's pretty much the vibe I got from the interview. He's doubling down at this point.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#334 » by Black Mage » Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:25 pm

mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:Tatum gave him 50 while Joel was needing pep talks from PJ Tucker.

He needs to just win and stop worrying about everyone else.


Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


To be fair; Tatum was actually provided a team around him. Joel has had to deal with an emo cripple afraid to shoot; a dude who forgot how to shoot; and a GM who picked Tobias over Jimmy and then said "let's go twin towers with another big and grab a guard who doesn't shoot from the outside and have 3 guys essentially needing paint space with Joel."

I get Jo's frustration; he gets ragged on everywhere about not getting out of the 2nd rnd. The only year he actually had a team around him they miss the conference finals and probably the finals to Kawhi getting to turn into a running back carrying the ball until he shoots a quadruple doink. It's gotta be frustrating.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#335 » by Stanford » Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:05 pm

Tatum has definitely had a charmed NBA existence. He's had some clunkers in the playoffs and it didn't matter.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#336 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:15 pm

Black Mage wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


To be fair; Tatum was actually provided a team around him. Joel has had to deal with an emo cripple afraid to shoot; a dude who forgot how to shoot; and a GM who picked Tobias over Jimmy and then said "let's go twin towers with another big and grab a guard who doesn't shoot from the outside and have 3 guys essentially needing paint space with Joel."

I get Jo's frustration; he gets ragged on everywhere about not getting out of the 2nd rnd. The only year he actually had a team around him they miss the conference finals and probably the finals to Kawhi getting to turn into a running back carrying the ball until he shoots a quadruple doink. It's gotta be frustrating.


This, but if we defend him, apparently we're Joel simps. I **** on Joel all the time, but the **** on needs to make sense.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#337 » by Mik317 » Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:22 pm

Tatum's stinkers generally also come with him still rebounding and defending and lately being a set up guy... he also doesn't stop shooting and being agressive.

Thats the difference. Be it injury or whatever..Biid's stinkers are deflating.

Now I will say, he only really had one this last playoff and we won that one because he turned it on in overtime so maybe he is getting better at it lol.

But again he just needs to stfu at this point, win and then he can talk all the **** he wants lol. BUT he is on a podcast with his trainer so I get why he might be a bit emboldened this time.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#338 » by AI_Efficiency » Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:57 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


To be fair; Tatum was actually provided a team around him. Joel has had to deal with an emo cripple afraid to shoot; a dude who forgot how to shoot; and a GM who picked Tobias over Jimmy and then said "let's go twin towers with another big and grab a guard who doesn't shoot from the outside and have 3 guys essentially needing paint space with Joel."

I get Jo's frustration; he gets ragged on everywhere about not getting out of the 2nd rnd. The only year he actually had a team around him they miss the conference finals and probably the finals to Kawhi getting to turn into a running back carrying the ball until he shoots a quadruple doink. It's gotta be frustrating.


This, but if we defend him, apparently we're Joel simps. I **** on Joel all the time, but the **** on needs to make sense.

I know this is a minor point in all this, but in the Kawhi Raptors series, the game was tied when Kawhi shoots that ball. Obviously you never know what would have happened in overtime, but that is my point. It wasn't a guarantee we are advancing even if Kawhi misses.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#339 » by mjkvol » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:02 pm

Black Mage wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Bro, you're like a GB troll on the Sixers board. Anytime anyone says anything good about Embiid, you're here to throw cold water on it. It's a joke. It's also true. Tatum has the luxury of management that was able to build around him. Also lets not forget that Tatum was ass that whole series, and then got hot in game 7. Props to him, that was a big game, but his performance this year, further indicates that at best he's top 10 in the NBA when healthy, maybe top 8. He never had to carry a team ever. When he did he's failed every time. Embiid had a bad game, 9/10 Sixers lose. Tatum has a bad game they win atleast half the time.


Tatum - one championship and multiple Finals and ECF appearances
Embiid - zero championships or even ECF appearances

Your obsession with the GB is one thing, but you make yourself into a virtual meme with some of your arguments. No one here believes that Tatum is better than Embiid (as if that means a f***king thing), but the fact is that his team has won and the Sixers haven't, which is all that really matters to anyone but Embiid fanboys.

Embiid needs to shut the f***k up, lose 25 lbs. and get in shape, learn how to play in a system where he isn't the sole focal point of the offense, and focus on winning with his defense and rebounding as much or more than his offense. Stop with social media and get your ass in the gym. At what point in his career does Embiid make adjustments that are more conducive to winning big games than personal accomplishments? That will be when you can go on your precious 'GB' and not come off as a nitwit.


To be fair; Tatum was actually provided a team around him. Joel has had to deal with an emo cripple afraid to shoot; a dude who forgot how to shoot; and a GM who picked Tobias over Jimmy and then said "let's go twin towers with another big and grab a guard who doesn't shoot from the outside and have 3 guys essentially needing paint space with Joel."

I get Jo's frustration; he gets ragged on everywhere about not getting out of the 2nd rnd. The only year he actually had a team around him they miss the conference finals and probably the finals to Kawhi getting to turn into a running back carrying the ball until he shoots a quadruple doink. It's gotta be frustrating.


Let me just be really clear about something - my rant was not in any way a defense of or endorsement of Tatum as a player. It was 100% about Embiid and his willingness to shoot off his mouth on social media instead of shutting up and getting in the best shape of his life while working on things aside from his offensive game.

Your points about what he has been saddled with here are spot on, and I have hammered away at many of them myself over the years. Tatum is horribly overrated and is clearly the beneficiary of a Grand Canyon-sized safety net with the Celtics, as he can afford awful shooting nights in big games knowing that his "supporting cast" will generally get the job done.

But to publicly whine about Tatum at this point, right after they win a title and you folded yet again short of an ECF just reeks of loser vibes. Even if it's 100% true. You finally have a legit supporting cast now, so just shut up and get to work on things that will help this group finally take the next step.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#340 » by elchengue20 » Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:16 pm

Embiid at this point is well on his way on ending his carreer as the James Harden or Carmelo Anthony of the Center position.

Or a better defender, still not good enough Demarcus Cousins.

Every day my hope on him becoming a real winner decreases a little more. He's just too dumb, inmature and soft.

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