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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#341 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:36 am

Sixerscan wrote:Well they're led by Lavine who isn't that young at this point and is still a total rock head.


Lavine is a guy the Bucks and Sixers should be all over. Based on reputation and team performance, he could be gettable.

- $19.5m annual salary.
- Closer's skillset
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#342 » by 76ersForLife » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:44 am

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LloydFree wrote:This Bulls challenging for the playoffs movement is going to die hard. Already played 4 of the worst teams in the league and they're 1-3. A bunch of over-rated talent on that roster.


The fact that the Bulls are easily the least disciplined team the league should give Boylan a hint that all his nonsense doesn't work.

Boylan will be the 1st coach to get fired this year.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#343 » by LloydFree » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:00 am

Another dirty little secret: Julius Randall is huge waste of money. Doesn't have near the impact that his boxscore says. Portis and Morris are both better.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#344 » by stormi » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:02 am

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Sixerscan wrote:Well they're led by Lavine who isn't that young at this point and is still a total rock head.


Lavine is a guy the Bucks and Sixers should be all over. Based on reputation and team performance, he could be gettable.

- $19.5m annual salary.
- Closer's skillset


Intriguing. How would we make the salary work?
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#345 » by Eyeamok » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm

JJ Redick, who I like, shot 1-9 from 3 point land last night. Damn !!
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#346 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:29 pm

Eyeamok wrote:JJ Redick, who I like, shot 1-9 from 3 point land last night. Damn !!


We’re allowed to have off nights except if you are tobias harris
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Post#347 » by bball4life » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:18 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Well they're led by Lavine who isn't that young at this point and is still a total rock head.


Lavine is a guy the Bucks and Sixers should be all over. Based on reputation and team performance, he could be gettable.

- $19.5m annual salary.
- Closer's skillset


His reputation is well earned. Massive net negative each and every year he's played. Awful defense and indiscriminate chucker is not the skill set I'm looking for.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#348 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:26 pm

I feel like we're destined for a rematch with Kawhi in the finals. We need to do everything to get HCA. This year's champ might be whoever has homecourt.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#349 » by Eyeamok » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:56 pm

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Eyeamok wrote:JJ Redick, who I like, shot 1-9 from 3 point land last night. Damn !!


We’re allowed to have off nights except if you are tobias harris


I agree but 3 point shooting is his thing. We are not quite sure what Tobias Harris this is....besides cashing large checks. :D
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#350 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:00 pm

bball4life wrote:His reputation is well earned. Massive net negative each and every year he's played. Awful defense and indiscriminate chucker is not the skill set I'm looking for.


He's had assist percentages north of 20% in the last two seasons.

Currently, he's posting a 2.2% steal percentage and a 2.1% block percentage.

Elite halfcourt scorer that also happens to be passing better and playing exceptionally well defensively through a small sample size.

Zach Lavine holds the championship for the Bucks, Sixers and Lakers in the palm of his hands.
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Post#351 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:04 pm

Tobias had a 15 and 15 game and a 29 and 7 game and people are complaining wtf!!!!! He can do a bit of everything and he's unselfish. Lay off of Tobias !!! He had a rough game last night but hit a clutch shot at the end of the game. He is earning his contract and we are undefeated.


I ain't trading him for bum ass Lavine and Wiggins .. so you all can complain even more.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#352 » by bball4life » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:10 pm

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bball4life wrote:His reputation is well earned. Massive net negative each and every year he's played. Awful defense and indiscriminate chucker is not the skill set I'm looking for.


He's had assist percentages north of 20% in the last two seasons.

Currently, he's posting a 2.2% steal percentage and a 2.1% block percentage.

Elite halfcourt scorer that also happens to be passing better and playing exceptionally well defensively through a small sample size.

Zach Lavine holds the championship for the Bucks, Sixers and Lakers in the palm of his hands.


Career 50.6% true shooting percentage is FAR from elite. He's awful. If he was half the player you claim just one of the teams he played for might have won a few games. You are infatuated with fake things.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#353 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:14 pm

bball4life wrote:Career 50.6% true shooting percentage is FAR from elite. He's awful. If he was half the player you claim just one of the teams he played for might have won a few games. You are infatuated with fake things.


You literally just made up a fake true shooting percentage. It appears you are infatuated with fake things. Career 55% true shooting. 57.2% since becoming the #1 option in Chicago. Which is inline with allstar scorers.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#354 » by bball4life » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:18 pm

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bball4life wrote:Career 50.6% true shooting percentage is FAR from elite. He's awful. If he was half the player you claim just one of the teams he played for might have won a few games. You are infatuated with fake things.


You literally just made up a fake true shooting percentage. It appears you are infatuated with fake things. Career 55% true shooting. 57.2% since becoming the #1 option in Chicago. Which is inline with allstar scorers.


oops efg, my bad. 55% isn't horrible, but doesn't make up for his deficiencies
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Post#355 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:22 pm

bball4life wrote:oops efg, my bad. 55% isn't horrible, but doesn't make up for his deficiencies

My whole point is that he's making improvements in areas he has been deficient in. Both his defense and passing have improved.

And ultimately, who cares? Kyrie has a ton of the same flaws. He still helped LeBron immensely in the postseason. Lavine could do the same for Joel or Giannis.

We're seeing Jamal Murray help Jokic on deep playoff runs. Same flaws.

You need to pair great players with a multilevel scorer. Why are we acting like this is such a bad concept?
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#356 » by bball4life » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:40 pm

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bball4life wrote:oops efg, my bad. 55% isn't horrible, but doesn't make up for his deficiencies

My whole point is that he's making improvements in areas he has been deficient in. Both his defense and passing have improved.

And ultimately, who cares? Kyrie has a ton of the same flaws. He still helped LeBron immensely in the postseason. Lavine could do the same for Joel or Giannis.

We're seeing Jamal Murray help Jokic on deep playoff runs. Same flaws.

You need to pair great players with a multilevel scorer. Why are we acting like this is such a bad concept?


Multi level scorers are great when they help you score more than the other guys. He's never done that. Defense doesn't slump. Kawhi was more important last year as a defender than as a 3 level scorer. Of course being both a great defender and "3 level scorer" is why he's the best player in the league right now.

The last game when the Sixers were down 8 with less than 5 minutes left and won was because they prevented scoring and snuffed out the Hawk's "3 level scorer" with good team defense. Having a guy like Lavine is just asking for opponents to hunt the weak link. I for one am tired of having guys like that have gotten killed on the Sixers by well coached teams the past few years (see TJ, Redick, Bellinelli).

If Lavine can play a whole year where his team's defense improves with him on the court that would be something.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#357 » by Sixerscan » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:15 pm

Lavine is like the laziest defensive player in the league. Watch him in this highlight package and try not to throw up:



By the way the bulls were 28th in offense last year. There’s something for him to work on.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#358 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:37 pm

I doubt he's any lazier than James Harden, Steph Curry, Devin Booker, Kyrie Irving, Dame Lillard, C.J. McCollum or Jamal Murray.

Our roster is loaded with defensive players. We can protect a bad or lazy defender. What we can't do is score in the halfcourt from multiple levels. Something Zach does extremely well and with excellent efficiency.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#359 » by LloydFree » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:29 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Tobias had a 15 and 15 game and a 29 and 7 game and people are complaining wtf!!!!! He can do a bit of everything and he's unselfish. Lay off of Tobias !!! He had a rough game last night but hit a clutch shot at the end of the game. He is earning his contract and we are undefeated.


I ain't trading him for bum ass Lavine and Wiggins .. so you all can complain even more.

Don't you know that Zach Lavine averaging 21/4/3 on 54% True shooting, for a team that's lost to 3 of the worst teams in the league, is better than Tobias Harris averaging 19/9/3 on 60% True shooting, for an undefeated team...
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#360 » by Sixerscan » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:29 am

IDK man, I feel like he's worse than almost all of them. Just doesn't care at all. Also couldn't care less about doing anything on offense when he doesn't have the ball. If he was really that good on offense his team wouldn't be so bad at offense last year, none of those other guys' teams were. Just seems like a super immature player, maybe he'll grow up one day but I haven't seen much indication this the year. I'm sure when the Bulls lose ~50 again they'll have a bunch of different excuses, but the issues start at the top imo.

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