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Re: 2022-2023 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#741 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:09 pm

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Stanford wrote:Marcus Sasser = munchkin SGA


He has the upside of being the best player in the draft, imo. It's just a "risk" taking a sub 6'3 player in the first round. I actually don't think he falls as far as mocks suggest though. Elite shooter with elite defense and very good handles. Success his entire time at Houston. Long arms. He should be top 15, easily, imo.


I would love have a GM who could get a pick around the 25 range to grab him. Maybe pick 25.


I'll bow down to Morey if he can pull off getting Sasser.
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Post#742 » by Stanford » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:12 pm

How long until every American player mocked is named Kobe
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Post#743 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:13 pm

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He has the upside of being the best player in the draft, imo. It's just a "risk" taking a sub 6'3 player in the first round. I actually don't think he falls as far as mocks suggest though. Elite shooter with elite defense and very good handles. Success his entire time at Houston. Long arms. He should be top 15, easily, imo.


I would love have a GM who could get a pick around the 25 range to grab him. Maybe pick 25.


I'll bow down to Morey if he can pull off getting Sasser.


Honest question - doesn't Sasser in many ways replicate what we already have in Maxey, or can Sasser play PG? Or is the idea to get off Maxey before we have to pay him?
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Post#744 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:22 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Stanford wrote:
I would love have a GM who could get a pick around the 25 range to grab him. Maybe pick 25.


I'll bow down to Morey if he can pull off getting Sasser.


Honest question - doesn't Sasser in many ways replicate what we already have in Maxey, or can Sasser play PG? Or is the idea to get off Maxey before we have to pay him?


Maxey has obviously surpassed predraft expectations, however he is a good defender in spurts (particularly the Celtics series), and a great catch and shoot 3pt shooter. Better around the rim.

Sasser is an absolute menace on defense. Creates his own threes and shoots at an excellent clip given 32% of them are unassisted. Better handler.

They're the same age, so who knows what Maxey would have done at Kentucky; could have been similar stats. But my predraft takeaway from both is Sasser has a more complete game.
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Post#745 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:31 pm

If you want two "dogs", as this board seems to want, from this draft, take Sasser and Tshiebwe. Both present elite skills at their position with an upside of providing more. Tshiebwe showed improvement from a jumpshot perspective, Sasser at times showed pretty advanced handling chops. They both have A+ personalities and work ethic.
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Post#746 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:47 pm



Also to add to the "dog" resume, he injured his groin in the AAC championship game, tried to play in the first round of the tournament, but could only do 14 minutes (a game they almost lost because Jarace Walker struggled to run the team), came back the next game and played 31 minutes to obliterate Auburn.
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Post#747 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:48 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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I'll bow down to Morey if he can pull off getting Sasser.


Honest question - doesn't Sasser in many ways replicate what we already have in Maxey, or can Sasser play PG? Or is the idea to get off Maxey before we have to pay him?


Maxey has obviously surpassed predraft expectations, however he is a good defender in spurts (particularly the Celtics series), and a great catch and shoot 3pt shooter. Better around the rim.

Sasser is an absolute menace on defense. Creates his own threes and shoots at an excellent clip given 32% of them are unassisted. Better handler.

They're the same age, so who knows what Maxey would have done at Kentucky; could have been similar stats. But my predraft takeaway from both is Sasser has a more complete game.


I love Sasser just from the few times I've seen him. Would you look to move Maxey if you could get Sasser? He just seems like a cheaper and possibly better version.
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Re: 2022-2023 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#748 » by Stanford » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:48 pm

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Post#749 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:56 pm

mjkvol wrote:
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mjkvol wrote:
Honest question - doesn't Sasser in many ways replicate what we already have in Maxey, or can Sasser play PG? Or is the idea to get off Maxey before we have to pay him?


Maxey has obviously surpassed predraft expectations, however he is a good defender in spurts (particularly the Celtics series), and a great catch and shoot 3pt shooter. Better around the rim.

Sasser is an absolute menace on defense. Creates his own threes and shoots at an excellent clip given 32% of them are unassisted. Better handler.

They're the same age, so who knows what Maxey would have done at Kentucky; could have been similar stats. But my predraft takeaway from both is Sasser has a more complete game.


I love Sasser just from the few times I've seen him. Would you look to move Maxey if you could get Sasser? He just seems like a cheaper and possibly better version.


I mean, cream rises to the top. If he can show he has the upside to be a better player than Maxey while playing off the bench next year, then I'd eventually move Maxey. I think we're going to give Maxey a sizable contract regardless of what happens this offseason, but he'll always have value since he's young and already a 20+ ppg scorer with a great work ethic and personality.

The way I see it, Maxey's ceiling is Beal and Sasser's is Lillard (I know I said Rozier for Sasser on the last page, but that's a mid tier version of him.). Both all-stars, but you need to attain that level. We won't know what Sasser is until he hits the league.

But having someone who can score like Maxey come off the bench would never be a bad thing. Especially if he's elite defensively. We could have used that in this past playoffs, lol.
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Post#750 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:03 pm

now you are making me preemptively mad when we don't get Sasser lol
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Post#751 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:08 pm

Mik317 wrote:now you are making me preemptively mad when we don't get Sasser lol


I like him, so we're definitely not getting him. Prepare for Trayce Jackson-Davis, a prospect I truly do not like.
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Post#752 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:33 pm



Jordan going to keep the team and draft Scoot just to spite Miller, lol.
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Post#753 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:47 pm

Why is Brandon Miller riding for Paul George so hard? He dissed both MJ & Lebron in the past 24 hours so he could call Paul George the GOAT. I’d put him on my “do not draft” list because his vertical is higher than his IQ.
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Post#754 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:58 pm

Yeah, I'm with Mik. I liked what I saw of Sasser, but now I want him.

It was a nice thought, anyway.
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Post#755 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:03 pm

I'll be totally irate if we don't somehow acquire an extremely late 2nd round pick and draft a mediocre prospect with a 90% chance of being cut prior to training camp.

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Post#756 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:07 pm

Would really make my night if we can find a way to participate in this draft.
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Post#757 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:18 pm

I’d hate to make the decision between Scoot and Miller. Miller’s game is almost fool proof, but his personality and how hard he dropped the ball with that shooting really gives me the ick.
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Post#758 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:21 pm

So jelly of teams with picks!
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Post#759 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:29 pm

Arsenal wrote:So jelly of teams with picks!


A Hield trade could yield a pick!
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Post#760 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:30 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I’d hate to make the decision between Scoot and Miller. Miller’s game is almost fool proof, but his personality and how hard he dropped the ball with that shooting really gives me the ick.


When it’s this close, I think you pick the player with more in between the ears.
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