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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#881 » by 76ciology » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:21 am

Marcus Morris + 2nd round pick for Kelly Olynyk (instead of Bogdanovic)
Korkmaz + House Jr + 2nd round pick for Tyus Jones (instead of Dejoune)

Maxey/Tyus Jones
Melton/Pat Beverly
Batum/Oubre
Tobias/Olynyk/Roco
Embiid/Reed

Compete now and be aggressive later
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#882 » by PhillyNj » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:55 am

I like it for the Sixers but I wonder if the Wizards can do better for Jones.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#883 » by Spates » Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:14 pm

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#884 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:18 pm

The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#885 » by PhillyFan11 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:54 pm

76ciology wrote:Marcus Morris + 2nd round pick for Kelly Olynyk (instead of Bogdanovic)
Korkmaz + House Jr + 2nd round pick for Tyus Jones (instead of Dejoune)

Maxey/Tyus Jones
Melton/Pat Beverly
Batum/Oubre
Tobias/Olynyk/Roco
Embiid/Reed

Compete now and be aggressive later


Does Jones really help anything? Obviously he’s a much better offensive player than Pat Bev, but how many mins could you play Jones and Maxey together? Imo we already have the bench guard we need in Melton…just need a better guard to play with Maxey in the starting lineup. Obviously easier said than done tho…
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#886 » by LloydFree » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:23 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Marcus Morris + 2nd round pick for Kelly Olynyk (instead of Bogdanovic)
Korkmaz + House Jr + 2nd round pick for Tyus Jones (instead of Dejoune)

Maxey/Tyus Jones
Melton/Pat Beverly
Batum/Oubre
Tobias/Olynyk/Roco
Embiid/Reed

Compete now and be aggressive later


Does Jones really help anything? Obviously he’s a much better offensive player than Pat Bev, but how many mins could you play Jones and Maxey together? Imo we already have the bench guard we need in Melton…just need a better guard to play with Maxey in the starting lineup. Obviously easier said than done tho…

Jones doesn't do anything that would offer the 76ers significant help in the playoffs. He's nothing but a high paid backup PG.

The 76ers need one more high level shot creater/maker and/or a guard who can actually give a credible defensive effort against D Lillard or J Holiday in the playoffs.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#887 » by the_process » Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:55 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.


You say that, and then here comes the LaVine deal. :lol:

Seriously, the fact that it can argued that Tobias is a big piece to this team is the second biggest problem here.

We can save the biggest problem for after the inevitable playoff flame out.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#888 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:40 pm

This team needs scoring. Tobias needs to go and we need a more consistent scorer that can play well with Maxey and Embiid.

We have forwards. Oubre,House,Covington,Batum and Morris is fine.

We need another guard with size ...

Defense at guard is cool bout a dude like Lavine may just outscore his matchup to make up for it. Murray is a good balance of both and contract is more reasonable. Brogdan would be a nice pick up too and fits in without dramatic change to roster.

Tyus Jones and these other guards not named Dinwiddle are non factors like George hill was a few years ago.

I want Tobias outta here now. Or I'm hoping Embiid focuses on Individual accolades as my bright spot for the season. No way Tobias still here makes us a contender.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#889 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:58 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:This team needs scoring. Tobias needs to go and we need a more consistent scorer that can play well with Maxey and Embiid.

We have forwards. Oubre,House,Covington,Batum and Morris is fine.

We need another guard with size ...

Defense at guard is cool bout a dude like Lavine may just outscore his matchup to make up for it. Murray is a good balance of both and contract is more reasonable. Brogdan would be a nice pick up too and fits in without dramatic change to roster.

Tyus Jones and these other guards not named Dinwiddle are non factors like George hill was a few years ago.

I want Tobias outta here now. Or I'm hoping Embiid focuses on Individual accolades as my bright spot for the season. No way Tobias still here makes us a contender.


You're completely missing the point and it's getting tiresome trying to explain it over and over again.
There is no immediate trade to be made involving Tobias Harris that is currently available that will upgrade this roster. You seem to think that there is and that it should be done immediately, but you haven't named one realistic scenario with Tobias Harris for this mythical upgrade player that you speak of. It's as if you have Tobias Harris tourrettes syndrome where all you do is bang your fist and yell "trade Tobias!" If you're suggesting that it's an addition by subtraction scenario with Harris, well... You're flat out wrong. Are you implying that we'd be instantly better if we just flat out released him?

Nobody is suggesting that we should keep Tobias Harris for another five years OR that he makes us a better team. I think we're all in agreement that he should move on at seasons end. What you are doing is screaming for him to be traded and yet you offer zero realistic ways that can be done while also upgrading the roster at the same time. We get that you don't like him and that you want him gone. You've made that crystal clear. Maybe try backing your proclamation by creating some scenarios where it would work out for the better to again...Trade him now for an upgrade. Otherwise you're simply pounding your fist on the table and making a bunch of unnecessary noise.

Lastly, you are now suggesting that we trade for Zach Lavine. Your reasoning is that he "may possibly" outscore his opponent therefore justifying his horrific half assed efforts on the defensive end of the floor. Sorry, but I've never ever seen that work in all my years of watching basketball. In fact, if you could also provide an example as to when that did work with a team winning the whole thing, I'd love to hear it. No..Tobias Harris doesn't vault us into contention, but suggesting that Zach Lavine will is beyond stupid.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#890 » by Spates » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:10 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.

I don't understand the logic of this take. Best for both sides to move on this summer but integral now. Can you please explain. I don't watch the Sixers much.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#891 » by zaz102 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:43 pm

Spates wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.

I don't understand the logic of this take. Best for both sides to move on this summer but integral now. Can you please explain. I don't watch the Sixers much.
He's their third or fourth most important player, but other teams do not want to trade much for him since he is expiring and is not a star. You have other expiring, less useful players you might as well trade if for other teams would trade equal value since they just them all as expiring contracts.

Also, he will most likely get a better deal than the Sixers would offer in the offseason from a team like Detroit who want a veteran to help their young guys out and be a tank commander, but aren't willing to trade real assets for him. Sixers will be looking for a player/players that are better than Tobias or a better fit for less/equal money to what he'll command in the offseason.

I see a small chance he comes back if he really wants to at a team friendly deal, but doubt he would do that.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#892 » by Spates » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:55 pm

zaz102 wrote:
Spates wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.

I don't understand the logic of this take. Best for both sides to move on this summer but integral now. Can you please explain. I don't watch the Sixers much.
He's their third or fourth most important player, but other teams do not want to trade much for him since he is expiring and is not a star. You have other expiring, less useful players you might as well trade if for other teams would trade equal value since they just them all as expiring contracts.

Also, he will most likely get a better deal than the Sixers would offer in the offseason from a team like Detroit who want a veteran to help their young guys out and be a tank commander, but aren't willing to trade real assets for him. Sixers will be looking for a player/players that are better than Tobias or a better fit for less/equal money to what he'll command in the offseason.

I see a small chance he comes back if he really wants to at a team friendly deal, but doubt he would do that.

I think Buddy Hield and GTJ are equal value for Tobias Harris and the 25th-30th pick in the draft. I think it enables a more potent and resilient offense in the post season. The added spacing should theoretically make Joel's job easier by making the double less advantageous. Looking at EPM his defensive impact tends to plummet in the playoffs (I don't know the context). Maybe easing his offensive load will prop his defense.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#893 » by zaz102 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:15 pm

Spates wrote:
zaz102 wrote:
Spates wrote:I don't understand the logic of this take. Best for both sides to move on this summer but integral now. Can you please explain. I don't watch the Sixers much.
He's their third or fourth most important player, but other teams do not want to trade much for him since he is expiring and is not a star. You have other expiring, less useful players you might as well trade if for other teams would trade equal value since they just them all as expiring contracts.

Also, he will most likely get a better deal than the Sixers would offer in the offseason from a team like Detroit who want a veteran to help their young guys out and be a tank commander, but aren't willing to trade real assets for him. Sixers will be looking for a player/players that are better than Tobias or a better fit for less/equal money to what he'll command in the offseason.

I see a small chance he comes back if he really wants to at a team friendly deal, but doubt he would do that.

I think Buddy Hield and GTJ are equal value for Tobias Harris and the 25th-30th pick in the draft. I think it enables a more potent and resilient offense in the post season. The added spacing should theoretically make Joel's job easier by making the double less advantageous. Looking at EPM his defensive impact tends to plummet in the playoffs (I don't know the context). Maybe easing his offensive load will prop his defense.
Firstly, Tobias makes twice as much as each of those players so you would need add player(s) making $20M to make a trade work.

Secondly, I think it's unlikely that those two teams do those deals. Indiana wants to keep the pick for another player and Tobias doesn't seem to match what Toronto is doing. Can always do a check on the trade board.

Thirdly, I think those moves don't help the Sixers. I think the downgrade from Tobias to Oubre/RoCo is greater than the upgrade from Melton to Hield/GTJ.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#894 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:19 am

Spates wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.

I don't understand the logic of this take. Best for both sides to move on this summer but integral now. Can you please explain. I don't watch the Sixers much.


I'm not explaining this again. You yourself just said you don't watch the team all that much. As a matter of fact, I explained it in depth in the paragraph above where you quoted me. You either missed it...Or you're trolling.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#895 » by phifans » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:41 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:This team needs scoring. Tobias needs to go and we need a more consistent scorer that can play well with Maxey and Embiid.

We have forwards. Oubre,House,Covington,Batum and Morris is fine.

We need another guard with size ...

Defense at guard is cool bout a dude like Lavine may just outscore his matchup to make up for it. Murray is a good balance of both and contract is more reasonable. Brogdan would be a nice pick up too and fits in without dramatic change to roster.

Tyus Jones and these other guards not named Dinwiddle are non factors like George hill was a few years ago.

I want Tobias outta here now. Or I'm hoping Embiid focuses on Individual accolades as my bright spot for the season. No way Tobias still here makes us a contender.


Tobi being here won't makes us a contender but House,Covington and Morris do ... :crazy:

You do understand that all you can put on the court are five guys right ? :lol:
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#896 » by Spates » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:42 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Spates wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The sooner you all realize that we are not trading Tobias Harris, the quicker we can move on from the idea. I fully expect him to move on after this season, I think it's best for both sides. But right now, he is a big piece to this team, and he's definitely part of the picture for now. We aren't trading him.

I don't understand the logic of this take. Best for both sides to move on this summer but integral now. Can you please explain. I don't watch the Sixers much.


I'm not explaining this again. You yourself just said you don't watch the team all that much. As a matter of fact, I explained it in depth in the paragraph above where you quoted me. You either missed it...Or you're trolling.

Chill out. I quoted the entirety of your post, the one paragraph. There's only a couple post above the quote and none are yours... Regardless, someone else answered.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#897 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:48 am

Morris
Reed
Springer
2026 OKC 1st
2026 1st swap (unprotected)
2028 LAC 1st (unprotected)
2028 1st swap (top-3 protected)
2029 1st (top-3 protected)

for

Lauri
Olynyk


Maxey/Beverley/(buyout)
Melton/Oubre/Korkmaz
Harris/Batum/House
Lauri/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#898 » by Covi_Marsh » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:28 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Morris
Reed
Springer
2026 OKC 1st
2026 1st swap (unprotected)
2028 LAC 1st (unprotected)
2028 1st swap (top-3 protected)
2029 1st (top-3 protected)

for

Lauri
Olynyk


Maxey/Beverley/(buyout)
Melton/Oubre/Korkmaz
Harris/Batum/House
Lauri/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Olynyk/Bamba


Reed is able to veto any trade for this year and he can’t be traded to Utah for a year since he signed an offer sheet the summer that we matched.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#899 » by the_process » Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:23 am

I’d be willing to jump in on the Raps-Pacers deal.

Korkmaz and Siakam to Indy
Brown and Hield to Philly
Harris, 26 OKC 1st, and two Indy 1sts to TOR
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#900 » by the_process » Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:12 am

Waive Danuel House

BKN gets Harris and Rozier
CHA gets Morris, Simmons, 25 PHX 1st, 26 OKC 1st, and 29 PHI 1st w/lLAC swap
PHI gets Cam Johnson, Washington, and Bouknight

Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Melton/Korkmaz/Bouknight
Johnson/Oubre/Martin
Washington/Batum/Covington
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

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