2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[mjkvol]

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Bryce McGowens has some of the best court geometry in this class. The angles he takes to get around defenders en route to the rim are so impressive. This guy is going to be an absolute stud at the NBA level.

Hard to believe this guy could still be there at #23.

[Negrodamus]

Another guy I could definitely see us taking is Dalen Terry. Just feels like a guy who has the advanced stats, all around skills, and size for position that our FO is looking for. He's not my favorite prospect because of his lack of scoring acumen in his two years at Arizona, but he feels like a sure fire role player at some point.

Shaun Livingston vibes.

[Negrodamus]

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That shot is a knuckleball, but one promising part from this season was his tourney season:

12ppg, 4apg, 5rpg, 1.8spg, 81% FT, 60% 3FG, 55% 2FG. Despite not having a very favorable projection as a scorer, his secondary ball handler/defense/cutter versatility is certainly something seen on winning teams. I mentioned Livingston, but also Andre Iguodala.

I also like that he has some swag and is incredibly active on boards. Works hard when he's in the game, unlike most of our bench this playoffs.

[Kobblehead]

I also like that he has some swag and is incredibly active on boards.

Hey, thanks man. Appreciate it.

[Kobblehead]

I just have this weird infatuation with Johnny Juzang. Every time I'm looking at the Pac-12 prospects, he's the guy that stands out as my favorite.

[Negrodamus]

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God, just keep him on the Blue Coats and force him to take 20 shots a game. His passing and defense is nasty. At 6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan, he's a project worth grabbing. Similar stats to freshman year Jrue Holiday.

[Negrodamus]

McGowans kinda reminds me of how Zach LaVine was at UCLA. Hyper athletic with the skills to be a good player, but not really playing like a good player.

[stormi]

New Wasserman slop

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

Absolutely stunned everytime I see Agbaji scam his way into the lottery lol.

[Negrodamus]

New Wasserman slop

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2956515-updated-2022-nba-mock-draft-why-teams-are-nervous-about-chet-holmgren

Absolutely stunned everytime I see Agbaji scam his way into the lottery lol.

I figured Jalen Williams was going to rise pretty high.

I have my traps that I'm very interested in even without him (Dalen Terry, Justin Lewis), but at the end of the day, I'd be fine with going for the guys that fill every statistical category that I look for and fill the positional need, Jake LaRavia and Wendell Moore.

[Monix]

Jalen Williams and Dalen Terry are an interesting comparison in the late first/second round.

Physically they are very similar and their skill sets match up well, but their roles were opposite. Williams did way more on the ball at a mid-major then he will be asked to do in the NBA while Terry is criticized for playing too much like a role player in a Power 5 conference. It's a nuance of scouting to project who will adjust more effectively to their proper NBA role.

[Rastas]

Seems Nets have had try outs with nearly 30 prospects so far.
Wed decision day.

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[Negrodamus]

Jalen Williams and Dalen Terry are an interesting comparison in the late first/second round.

Physically they are very similar and their skill sets match up well, but their roles were opposite. Williams did way more on the ball at a mid-major then he will be asked to do in the NBA while Terry is criticized for playing too much like a role player in a Power 5 conference. It's a nuance of scouting to project who will adjust more effectively to their proper NBA role.

I think their height and length are similar. I think Jalen is thicker, probably could take on some more good weight and do Harden bully ball. Dalen is thinner, faster, more explosive. If you could merge them into one player, they’d be the #1 pick. Dalen has elite role player upside, but never looked to get his own shot, which is concerning.

I think Jalen has a better chance at stardom, but Dalen definitely has a better chance of sticking around the league longer.

[Monix]

I think they're both role players

[Negrodamus]

I think they're both role players

Possibly. It makes sense to grab the guy who has the upside of an offensive creator with a good to great shooting profile. If he doesn't pan out as a creator, he can always fall back as a role player.

Dalen's only path is role player.

[Jailblazers7]

I would love nothing more than to trade Matisse for the Bulls FRP and take two swings at like McGowens & Wendell Moore. I’d much rather take the GS/Toronto approach than going all in on a 3rd star.

[Negrodamus]

I'm having an issue with this draft. I'd almost hope that the Nets take the pick and we get 2023 because some of the guys in our area just have too many holes when using historical evidence of players who make it in the league. I don't see much of a difference between 23 and 50 in this draft if I'm being honest. They are all swinging for the fences type prospects to me.

[Mik317]

just getting wings who can do stuff sounds nice.

Its the holy grail of sorts in today's NBA....and we don't even have a **** version of it lol. Danny and Thybulle were our only wings...neither could dribble the ball; one can't shoot, other can't run lol. Just stack wings on wings on wings and hope some of them pan out.

[Negrodamus]

just getting wings who can do stuff sounds nice.

Its the holy grail of sorts in today's NBA....and we don't even have a **** version of it lol. Danny and Thybulle were our only wings...neither could dribble the ball; one can't shoot, other can't run lol. Just stack wings on wings on wings and hope some of them pan out.

I think my problem with this draft is how unprecedented it is in sub-75% FT shooters. LaRavia, Wendell, Bryce, Jalen Williams, and Max Christie (if he stays) do. But the problem with them is:

LaRavia - mediocre athlete, +1 wingspan, < 16ppg per 36 min
Wendell - strictly C&S, < 16ppg per 36 min
Bryce - everything statistic-wise other than his desire to score and his 3PAr, FTr.
Jalen Williams - short of the BPM requirements I look for, mediocre athlete, small school, not a tourney team
Max Christie - Similar situation to Bryce

After doing a little bit of a dive on previous drafts, I really do think the sub-16ppg per 36 min does serve as a disqualifer of sorts for prospects. Even role players and fringe all stars in the league hit that number. That's not to say ALL 16+ppg per 36 min will pan out, but it's pretty rare that a good player is below that threshold.

Justin Lewis starts to look good again, but I have my own issues with him. And at that point, just get him with a second round pick.

[Mik317]

agreed w/ all of that

I think like I was with just having dudes who can dribble the ball prior to Maxey and then Harden...I am thirsty enough for trash versions of the 2 way wing lol...i'd settle for 1.5 way at this stage lol

this is where having actual developmental coaches that I trust would be a big boon. Maxey seems to have gotten better with outside help. Hanlen helped Biid out a lot. Someone else mentioned it but who is our big man coach? Who is our shooting coach? Cassell is great for Maxey but is that it lol.

Assuming Morey doesn't go stupid star hunting...the team needs to start doing like the Heat and Raptors and making random prospects playable. Thats going to be how we get better on the margins as most of the money will be tied up in our "big 3".

[Negrodamus]

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