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Post#41 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:54 pm

76ciology wrote:Defense? Who cares.

How good can he be on offense? That’s the question IMO.

Good enough to score off the dribble in the halfcourt of playoff games against tough defenders.

That said, can he remain on the floor without getting mercilessly targeted and destroyed? It's a valid concern in the modern NBA where it is impossible to hide bad defenders because nobody fights through screens (switch everything era).
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Post#42 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:55 pm

Kolkmania wrote:So he shot <30% from three on a small sample size, but has been a consistent good free throw shooter for his age and was shooting ~34% in high school with high difficulty shots. Combine that with decent touch around the rim, good footwork and shooting mechanics... This seems like a prototypical case of underestimating someone's shooting capabilities.

In addition he has the physical build to hold up in the NBA, has proper footwork to wall off drives, apparently great work ethic and Kentucky has a history of holding back guards (in terms of production and freedom of play).

Why did he fall to 21? Must be something out there that I'm missing. Because this seems like a kid who can instantly play a role in the NBA (small wing) and grow into a bigger role gradually.


I heard he has really bad numbers.

His value of his defense is more on eyetest than on numbers given his low stls and blk rate. Offensively, he has poor shooting % and has low assists numbers.

For me drafting him is more of looking past his numbers, except for his FT%.
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Post#43 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:58 pm

76ciology wrote:His value of his defense is more on eyetest than on numbers


But that eye test doesn't give us anything either because he was glued to catch and shoot players that couldn't dribble while Ashton Hagans defended any opposing player with a creation pulse.
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Post#44 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:59 pm

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76ciology wrote:Defense? Who cares.

How good can he be on offense? That’s the question IMO.

Good enough to score off the dribble in the halfcourt of playoff games against tough defenders.

That said, can he remain on the floor without getting mercilessly targeted and destroyed? It's a valid concern in the modern NBA where it is impossible to hide bad defenders because nobody fights through screens (switch everything era).


Its easy now to hide the defense now with the increase usage of the zone defense. Heat has shown that by making it to the finals with Herro and Duncan Robinson.

And you also have Ben and Biid so you wouldnt rely a lot from them. Just as how we treat JJ back then or Kork last season.

Overall, i dont think he can’t be a good defensive player because of his lack of length but he can be an average defensive guy.
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Post#45 » by Arsenal » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:09 pm

Can Maxey become Donovan Mitchell?

Can he be a great C&S player off of Ben?
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Post#46 » by SixthStreet » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:09 pm

Maxey looks like a good defensive player because of effort but I don't think he is one. Kind of like McConnell.
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Post#47 » by Mik317 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:22 pm

Arsenal wrote:Can Maxey become Donovan Mitchell?

Can he be a great C&S player off of Ben?

Does not have Don's burst or length
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Post#48 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm

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Arsenal wrote:Can Maxey become Donovan Mitchell?

Can he be a great C&S player off of Ben?

Does not have Don's burst or length


Maxey is more like Lou Will than Mitchell IMO.
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Post#49 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:36 pm

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Post#50 » by Arsenal » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:50 pm

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Yeah its true. OKC initially traded it to us w/Illy for Grant. Then your boy BCB traded it to Orlando for Picnic Baskets. Then we got it back for Fultz.

Hopefully Maxey can become what Fultz was supposed to be.
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Post#51 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:06 pm

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Is this true?


Yeah its true. OKC initially traded it to us w/Illy for Grant. Then your boy BCB traded it to Orlando for Picnic Baskets. Then we got it back for Fultz.

Hopefully Maxey can become what Fultz was supposed to be.


My boy BCB has the longest view in the room, he saw the pick will just return to us. :lol:
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Post#52 » by Arsenal » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:10 pm

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Mik317 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Can Maxey become Donovan Mitchell?

Can he be a great C&S player off of Ben?

Does not have Don's burst or length


Maxey is more like Lou Will than Mitchell IMO.


Body type looks way more rocked up than Lou Will. More like Mitchell. Keep in mind Mitchell was one year older when he came out too.
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Post#53 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:19 pm

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76ciology wrote:
Mik317 wrote:Does not have Don's burst or length


Maxey is more like Lou Will than Mitchell IMO.


Body type looks way more rocked up than Lou Will. More like Mitchell. Keep in mind Mitchell was one year older when he came out too.


Body of Mitchell, style of Lou Will.

He’s like Lou Will or TJ Warren where they are natural to score 20-30pts without any eye popping highlights, unlike Mitchell.
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Arsenal wrote:Can Maxey become Donovan Mitchell?

Can he be a great C&S player off of Ben?

Does not have Don's burst or length


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Post#56 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:08 pm

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Post#57 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:31 pm

I think an interesting game to watch is probably the Florida game, last game of the season for the Cats. Hagans was semi-suspended for that game, so it was Maxey at point. He had an absolutely dreadful night scoring (1-11 FG%) but played the most minutes (39) and had 7 assist to 1 turnover in a win on the road at Gainesville. You can probably get an idea of how he plays when the shot isn't dropping.
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Post#58 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:35 pm

I think to add to that, he finished out the last 13 games of the season averaging 36 minutes per game which is very impressive. Seems to be in the mold of Thybulle and Ben in that he doesn't really get tired. He also got his spg up to 1.1 in that stretch. I do usually like to see how Fr end out the year in the last 15-20 games because they are finally comfortable. It feels like he regressed a bit offensively, but he did seem to play better defense.
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Post#59 » by phillynative » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:45 pm

What about drawing fouls ?
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Post#60 » by skulky » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:59 pm

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Who is this guy? Maxey does not have a scary first step. He’s not an explosive athlete or a speed demon. Yes he is crafty and knows how to use a screen, but he’s not going to blowing by defenders in the nba, cause he didn’t do that in college. And his handle is average again not tight right or super elite, it’s by no means a negative but this guy is making it sound like he has Nash or kyrie ball handling.

I like the pick but he’s going to need to adjust to the pro game but it’s encouraging sounds like he’s a hard worker/gym rat. And most importantly he’s going to need to work on his shot.

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