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Post#2021 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:04 am

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madmaxmedia wrote:Have you guys seen this one? Class act answer to a pretty rude reporter:



dont see how that's rude, pretty legit comment/questions imo.


The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#2023 » by clyde21 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:12 am

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madmaxmedia wrote:Have you guys seen this one? Class act answer to a pretty rude reporter:



dont see how that's rude, pretty legit comment/questions imo.


The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


the rudeness/frustration from the reporter encompasses the entire Muslim world, we're pretty damn sick of the sanctimonious and relentless finger waging by the West. this whole holier than thou attitude by Euros/Americans that they can go to someone else's country and lecture them about their own morals and cultures and traditions when no one on the planet has more blood on their hands than Westerners is peak fkn hypocrisy. just comedic levels.

we don't hear any lecturing from the Japanese. Or the Argentines. Or the Brazilians. Or the Costa Ricans. Or Uruguains. Or the Columbians. Or the Mexicans. it's always coming from the select few who think they are the center of the world and their morals and ideas should always take precedence over everyone elses.

as for the pronunciation question, his point was that it's hard to someone's opinion seriously about whats happening in Iran when they don't even know how to pronounce Iran.

like when someone talks to me about Iraq and says EYE-Raq...pretty good signal at that point to ignore everything they are saying about the country.
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Post#2024 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:17 am

clyde21 wrote:
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dont see how that's rude, pretty legit comment/questions imo.


The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


the rudeness/frustration from the reporter encompasses the entire Muslim world, we're pretty damn sick of the sanctimonious and relentless finger waging by the West. this whole holier than thou attitude by Euros/Americans that they can go to someone else's country and lecture them about their own morals and cultures and traditions when no one on the planet has more blood on their hands than Westerners is peak fkn hypocrisy. just comedic levels.

as for the pronunciation question, his point was that it's hard to someone's opinion seriously about whats happening in Iran when they don't even know how to pronounce Iran.

like when someone talks to me about Iraq and says EYE-Raq...pretty good signal at that point to ignore everything they are saying about the country.


Again, I had zero problem with the actual question. Asking how the so-called "land of the free" can pretend to take the moral high ground when it treats so many of its own citizens shabbily based on race (or gender, or sexuality, or any number of other areas where we continually fall short) actually has merit. And Tyler provided a great response so all good.

His point about pronunciation is stupid. That's just how it's pronounced in the English-speaking world, and that has absolutely zero bearing on your ability to process and understand news.
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Post#2025 » by clyde21 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:18 am

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The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


the rudeness/frustration from the reporter encompasses the entire Muslim world, we're pretty damn sick of the sanctimonious and relentless finger waging by the West. this whole holier than thou attitude by Euros/Americans that they can go to someone else's country and lecture them about their own morals and cultures and traditions when no one on the planet has more blood on their hands than Westerners is peak fkn hypocrisy. just comedic levels.

as for the pronunciation question, his point was that it's hard to someone's opinion seriously about whats happening in Iran when they don't even know how to pronounce Iran.

like when someone talks to me about Iraq and says EYE-Raq...pretty good signal at that point to ignore everything they are saying about the country.


Again, I had zero problem with the actual question. Asking how the so-called "land of the free" can pretend to take the moral high ground when it treats so many of its own citizens shabbily based on race (or gender, or sexuality, or any number of other areas where we continually fall short) actually has merit. And Tyler provided a great response so all good.

His point about pronunciation is stupid. That's just how it's pronounced in the English-speaking world, and that has absolutely zero bearing on your ability to process and understand news.


i agree that Tyler did a good job responding to the question.

and imo Dest is the best American player.
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Post#2026 » by G R E Y » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:18 am

I've heard some people say Eye-talian along with Eye-raq and Eye-ran. It sounds weird. Some are ignorant, others knowledgeable, about each country. Lots of variables. Can't assume until discussions expand.
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Post#2027 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:30 am

Going back to the South Texas thing, my first name is Daniel. In the overwhelming majority of our country and elsewhere, it's pronounced DAN-yull. To a lot of people down there and especially across the border, it's dan-YELL. I did not get offended and assume they were ignorant, I just took it at face value that they speak a different language with different rules/styles.
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Post#2028 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Dec 2, 2022 1:34 am

Lest there be any doubt as to the intent there, just read this outlet's laughable description of the session.

"At a highly-charged and tense press conference..."

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https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/11/29/693583/US-Football-captain-apologizes-at-World-Cup-press-conference
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Post#2029 » by clyde21 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:01 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:Going back to the South Texas thing, my first name is Daniel. In the overwhelming majority of our country and elsewhere, it's pronounced DAN-yull. To a lot of people down there and especially across the border, it's dan-YELL. I did not get offended and assume they were ignorant, I just took it at face value that they speak a different language with different rules/styles.


meh, don't like the analogy. i guess it works if those people were making statements about you you didn't like or agree with, and didn't even bother to say your name correctly while doing it.

the reporter isn't mad Americans don't know how to say Iran. the reporter is mad about Americans wagging their fingers towards a country they don't even know how to pronounce the name of. if you don't even know how to say the name, how likely is it that you know much else?

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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#2030 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:15 am

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Sedale Threatt wrote:Going back to the South Texas thing, my first name is Daniel. In the overwhelming majority of our country and elsewhere, it's pronounced DAN-yull. To a lot of people down there and especially across the border, it's dan-YELL. I did not get offended and assume they were ignorant, I just took it at face value that they speak a different language with different rules/styles.


meh, don't like the analogy. i guess it works if those people were making statements about you you didn't like or agree with, and didn't even bother to say your name correctly while doing it.

the reporter isn't mad Americans don't know how to say Iran. the reporter is mad about Americans wagging their fingers towards a country they don't even know how to pronounce the name of. if you don't even know how to say the name, how likely is it that you know much else?

glass houses.


I wouldn't even assume the "reporter" is mad at all. He clearly had an assignment, and that was how he went about it.
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Post#2031 » by Mamba81p » Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:35 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:Have you guys seen this one? Class act answer to a pretty rude reporter:



dont see how that's rude, pretty legit comment/questions imo.


The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


That pronunciation question is so obnoxious. Every country is pronounced differently in every freaking language. Nobody outside of English speaking countries is pronouncing Canada or Australia like they should. I am pretty sure that reporter is not pronouncing those names when he speaks in his own language. United States? Everyone translates the name of the country. How rude of them huh? I didn't see anyone here mentioning Deutschland. They were eliminated today, because Espana tanked.
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Post#2032 » by clyde21 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 2:37 am

why is everyone hella good looking in this pic? :lol:

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Post#2033 » by G R E Y » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:00 am

Mamba81p wrote:
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Sedale Threatt wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
dont see how that's rude, pretty legit comment/questions imo.


The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


That pronunciation question is so obnoxious. Every country is pronounced differently in every freaking language. Nobody outside of English speaking countries is pronouncing Canada or Australia like they should. I am pretty sure that reporter is not pronouncing those names when he speaks in his own language. United States? Everyone translates the name of the country. How rude of them huh? I didn't see anyone here mentioning Deutschland. They were eliminated today, because Espana tanked.

:lol: no but seriously who in the world has a hard time pronouncing this? There's one vowel. No 'r' or 'L' or consonant combinations that give some tongues the twists.
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Post#2034 » by Hellcrooner » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:00 am

Most vocal teams about lgtbi, human rights (including women wich btw are human you know) before and during the tourney?

Denmark and Germany.

End of their stage group
both out.

the later with a lets say................not so squeaky clean goal allowed to the japanise by var.


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Post#2035 » by Mamba81p » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:02 am

G R E Y wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
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Sedale Threatt wrote:
The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


That pronunciation question is so obnoxious. Every country is pronounced differently in every freaking language. Nobody outside of English speaking countries is pronouncing Canada or Australia like they should. I am pretty sure that reporter is not pronouncing those names when he speaks in his own language. United States? Everyone translates the name of the country. How rude of them huh? I didn't see anyone here mentioning Deutschland. They were eliminated today, because Espana tanked.

:lol: no but seriously who in the world has a hard time pronouncing this? There's one vowel. No 'r' or 'L' or consonant combinations that give some tongues the twists.



lots of people pronounce it ka-na-da. The French do that, and other latin countries.
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Post#2036 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:04 am

Mamba81p wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
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That pronunciation question is so obnoxious. Every country is pronounced differently in every freaking language. Nobody outside of English speaking countries is pronouncing Canada or Australia like they should. I am pretty sure that reporter is not pronouncing those names when he speaks in his own language. United States? Everyone translates the name of the country. How rude of them huh? I didn't see anyone here mentioning Deutschland. They were eliminated today, because Espana tanked.

:lol: no but seriously who in the world has a hard time pronouncing this? There's one vowel. No 'r' or 'L' or consonant combinations that give some tongues the twists.



lots of people pronounce it ka-na-da. The French do that, and other latin countries.


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Post#2037 » by Hellcrooner » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:04 am

you have to be joking to think spain tanked.

if that was so, those goals would have only happened in the last 5 minutes once they were sure about the other game.
not in the friggin 15 first minutes of the second half, when they were out of the world cup for 20 minutes.

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morroco right now is a much more dangerous team than croacia, croatia is old and slow, morocco is quick and phisical....yes just the type of team spain has had problems with for the last......20 years.
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Post#2038 » by G R E Y » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:08 am

Mamba81p wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
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That pronunciation question is so obnoxious. Every country is pronounced differently in every freaking language. Nobody outside of English speaking countries is pronouncing Canada or Australia like they should. I am pretty sure that reporter is not pronouncing those names when he speaks in his own language. United States? Everyone translates the name of the country. How rude of them huh? I didn't see anyone here mentioning Deutschland. They were eliminated today, because Espana tanked.

:lol: no but seriously who in the world has a hard time pronouncing this? There's one vowel. No 'r' or 'L' or consonant combinations that give some tongues the twists.



lots of people pronounce it ka-na-da. The French do that, and other latin countries.

Well that's just a short vowel sound in their tongue. An accent.

The reporter seemed to take objection to a short-to-long vowel change and attributing it to carelessness and expanding it to other areas. Sort of pulled a thread there.
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Post#2039 » by Stannis » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:08 am

Hellcrooner wrote:Most vocal teams about lgtbi, human rights (including women wich btw are human you know) before and during the tourney?

Denmark and Germany.

End of their stage group
both out.

the later with a lets say................not so squeaky clean goal allowed to the japanise by var.


mmmmmmmmmmm

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Lot of butthurt in this post lmao

Japan goal was clean AF thanks to VAR. VAR has down wonders for soccer. Years ago with no VAR, Japan probably would have been screwed as refs had a tendency to give the benefit of the doubt to privileged western nations.
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Post#2040 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Dec 2, 2022 3:09 am

G R E Y wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:
Spoiler:
Sedale Threatt wrote:
The pronunciation thing was dumb. That almost entirely comes down to how your particular country enunciates words. For example, living in South Texas around Spanish speakers for 20-plus years, tons and tons of people "mispronounced" my first name. I did not get offended. Hell, I've been watching most of the games on Telemundo and they pronounce everything depending to their style as opposed to anybody else's. It was a thinly-veiled attempt to provoke a response from a reporter from Iran's state propaganda network. A reporter from the same outlet apparently tried to badger Berhalter -- a soccer coach -- about why he hadn't used his position to pressure the US government into moving warships out of the region. I mean...

The actual question was absolutely legit.


That pronunciation question is so obnoxious. Every country is pronounced differently in every freaking language. Nobody outside of English speaking countries is pronouncing Canada or Australia like they should. I am pretty sure that reporter is not pronouncing those names when he speaks in his own language. United States? Everyone translates the name of the country. How rude of them huh? I didn't see anyone here mentioning Deutschland. They were eliminated today, because Espana tanked.

:lol: no but seriously who in the world has a hard time pronouncing this? There's one vowel. No 'r' or 'L' or consonant combinations that give some tongues the twists.


It's not a matter of difficulty, it's a matter of phonetics. Different countries/cultures pronounce words differently.

Case in point: Having spent a good chunk of my summers visiting family in Saskatchewan, I never heard any of them say "cah-nah-DAH" as, say, a Mexican might.

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