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Post#361 » by Shaazzam » Sat Aug 8, 2015 12:36 am

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Shaazzam wrote:I haven't seen Schneiderlin play much, but he was **** in the preseason games. Is he better than Herrera? I dunno, I think Herrera is a stud... if a little thin.




Really? I didn't see the games, but all reports I'd read were raving about how great Schneiderlin in particular was during those games.


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Heh, my tactical sense isn't that great. That being said, any pressure on Schneiderlin, especially in the first couple games, and he was turning the ball over. Didn't watch much of the PSG game though.
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Post#362 » by Shaazzam » Sat Aug 8, 2015 12:39 am

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Shaazzam wrote:I haven't seen Schneiderlin play much, but he was **** in the preseason games. Is he better than Herrera? I dunno, I think Herrera is a stud... if a little thin.




Really? I didn't see the games, but all reports I'd read were raving about how great Schneiderlin in particular was during those games.


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I personally thought Schneiderlin was pretty good. His defensive instinct especially is going to be huge for us. Then again i'm not high on Herrera as most people are. He hit like 6 goals on 6 shots last season and that's not going to happen again this season. I don't think Herrera is particularly creative nor does anything really well. He does work hard i'll give him that.

So yeah, I probably wasn't looking at him doing his main job,which I assume would be breaking up play, and focused more on what he did with the ball. Maybe it was him not knowing his teammates too.
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Post#363 » by Swift3 » Sat Aug 8, 2015 4:16 am

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Really? I didn't see the games, but all reports I'd read were raving about how great Schneiderlin in particular was during those games.


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I personally thought Schneiderlin was pretty good. His defensive instinct especially is going to be huge for us. Then again i'm not high on Herrera as most people are. He hit like 6 goals on 6 shots last season and that's not going to happen again this season. I don't think Herrera is particularly creative nor does anything really well. He does work hard i'll give him that.

So yeah, I probably wasn't looking at him doing his main job,which I assume would be breaking up play, and focused more on what he did with the ball. Maybe it was him not knowing his teammates too.


I actually haven't seen him play much in the past on Southampton, but from what i've read, he's really improved his passing game especially his long balls the last couple years. As long as he can hit those occasional long balls and move the ball from the back third to the front third, I think he should be fine. I don't expect him to control the game like Carrick does. I actually see a lot of similarities between Bastian and him so it'll be interesting to see how they play together. 7 hours or so until our first game!! So excited even though it's at 4:45 am
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Post#364 » by Shaazzam » Sat Aug 8, 2015 1:50 pm

I'll take the three points. Not much to say about the offence in this game. Darmian looked good, Smalling played quite well at the back. And schneiderlin still got dispossessed a little too easily for my liking.
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Post#365 » by Swift3 » Sat Aug 8, 2015 4:10 pm

Shaazzam wrote:I'll take the three points. Not much to say about the offence in this game. Darmian looked good, Smalling played quite well at the back. And schneiderlin still got dispossessed a little too easily for my liking.


Agreed. Some encouraging sides at best. Darmian was great along with Smalling and Carrick. Schneiderlin had a pretty mediocre game like you said lost the ball too often and didn't bring much besides his tackling. I liked what him and Carrick did together though. I honestly thought Carrick was the best player for the first 50 or however long it took until he got taken off. He was making interceptions, making tackles and making great passes all game.

That being said, it looks like some of the newer players especially are going to take some time to gel with the team. We need to see much more from Rooney. Either way, the important thing is we got the 3 points and off to a good start. Hopefully a better game against Club Brugge for the CL spot on Tuesday.
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Post#366 » by TNBT » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:45 pm

Just read that we've apparently agreed to a 4 year deal with midfielder Lucas Biglia. Unless someone is being traded or moved to a different position, then this doesn't make sense. I'm guessing there's another corresponding move in the works... Anyone want to guess what that will be?


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Post#367 » by magik9113 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:10 pm

I can only imagine the Biglia deal goes thru in a few weeks if Lazio lose their CL qualifier vs Leverkusen
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Post#368 » by jirrit » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:53 pm

I don't really get the Biglia-love. I've seen him play for Anderlecht for like five years here, and that's in Belgium.. Guess he has improved much?

Anyhow, I think Man U needs to get rid of Van Gaal asap. Look what he already spent and look what he got for a team. They'll be #3 again as their max this season.
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Post#369 » by truth18 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:13 pm

jirrit wrote:Anyhow, I think Man U needs to get rid of Van Gaal asap. Look what he already spent and look what he got for a team. They'll be #3 again as their max this season.


Starting to agree with this. I feel like the fans will get impatient soon.

Also, is Carrick a robot? Dude doesn't seem to decline.
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Post#370 » by magik9113 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:52 am

jirrit wrote:I don't really get the Biglia-love. I've seen him play for Anderlecht for like five years here, and that's in Belgium.. Guess he has improved much

He had a great season last year with Lazio and did well in the World Cup. Not worth over 20mill tho
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Post#371 » by Swift3 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:25 am

jirrit wrote:I don't really get the Biglia-love. I've seen him play for Anderlecht for like five years here, and that's in Belgium.. Guess he has improved much?

Anyhow, I think Man U needs to get rid of Van Gaal asap. Look what he already spent and look what he got for a team. They'll be #3 again as their max this season.


Coming from a guy who hasn't seen him play much, why are we trying to sign a 29 year old midfielder? We already have Herrera, Schneiderlin, Mata, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Carrick, Blind. This is before we add in the wingers and realize we have 2-3 midfield spots at most. Just doesn't make sense to me.

We still need to solve our CB and backup striker issue. I'm starting to think neither of these deals are going to happen. On the bright side, with more time going on, it means De Gea might stay for one more season.
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Post#372 » by TNBT » Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:34 am

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jirrit wrote:I don't really get the Biglia-love. I've seen him play for Anderlecht for like five years here, and that's in Belgium.. Guess he has improved much?

Anyhow, I think Man U needs to get rid of Van Gaal asap. Look what he already spent and look what he got for a team. They'll be #3 again as their max this season.


Coming from a guy who hasn't seen him play much, why are we trying to sign a 29 year old midfielder? We already have Herrera, Schneiderlin, Mata, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Carrick, Blind. This is before we add in the wingers and realize we have 2-3 midfield spots at most. Just doesn't make sense to me.

We still need to solve our CB and backup striker issue. I'm starting to think neither of these deals are going to happen. On the bright side, with more time going on, it means De Gea might stay for one more season.




Basically what I was trying to say. Unless you have a chance to land an elite, world-class superstar like Ronaldo or Messi, I just don't see the point in adding to a position where we already have plenty of players. I don't see striker as such a big issue either as we have Wilson who should get some opportunities and LVG has already declared that we're bringing back our Mexican friend as well. I definitely would like to see a new top CB come in though.
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Post#373 » by TNBT » Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:05 am

Oh well, we're 2-0 at the moment. Januzaj gets a chance and scores the game-winner. LVG has said since that he needs to do more than just score to make up for last season, specifically working on maintaining possession and not turning the ball over. I'm a huge fan of Januzaj personally and I think he will be a star for us, but LVG probably has a point.


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Post#374 » by Shaazzam » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:18 pm

Really been impressed with Darmian thus far. Still not sold on Schneiderlin, I've seen him not aware of a player behind him and then get stripped a couple times every game. Mata had some incredible passes as well. Rooney isn't seeing the ball or is losing it too easy when he does get it. I don't know if he is just slipping physically or not getting the service or both. And depay hasn't done sweet **** all since he's been here. Doesnt look dangerous at all, either turns it over, can't deliver a pass or can't hit the net. Shaw looked really good yesterday though, some nice tackles.
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Post#375 » by Lakers415 » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:12 pm

United has looked like crap because their midfield is so slow and their team in general is slow.

Pedro would of been a fantastic signing for them...

Not impressed by united in the preseason nor the first 2 games of the year....
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Post#376 » by Swift3 » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:24 pm

Shaazzam wrote:Really been impressed with Darmian thus far. Still not sold on Schneiderlin, I've seen him not aware of a player behind him and then get stripped a couple times every game. Mata had some incredible passes as well. Rooney isn't seeing the ball or is losing it too easy when he does get it. I don't know if he is just slipping physically or not getting the service or both. And depay hasn't done sweet **** all since he's been here. Doesnt look dangerous at all, either turns it over, can't deliver a pass or can't hit the net. Shaw looked really good yesterday though, some nice tackles.


I agree with everything you said. Schneiderlin is a fantastic tackler and its great having someone like him break up play in the midfield. I think that's part of the reason why we have 2 clean sheets so far. That being said, he doesn't have any creativity and is slow sometimes, but i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because it's still 2 games in and i'm sure he'll get better as he gels with the team.

Depay hasn't done anything I agree, but I think we're putting too much expectation on a 21 year old who just joined the team. Hopefully he gets better over time. Rooney is the one who i've been so disappointed with. The guy needs to lead the team and get on the ball more. I think he either just isn't capable of being a striker anymore or needs to get into that striker mentality because if he isn't scoring we're going to struggle badly. I feel like he's only taken like 2-3 shots in the 2 games combined... Either way the team is still playing slow possession and not making any chances. I'm watching Dortmund play right now and they're just wave of attack after attack being dangerous. I understand possession is LVG's philosophy but without the attacking mentality and switching gears it's useless possession.

Schweinsteiger was impressive to me the last 30min he came on yesterday. Mata has been great too he's just by far the most creative one on our team and that assist proves it. I wish there was a way we could somehow sneak him into the 10 role again and not have it hinder us on our high press or defensive side. From what I've seen so far I would start like this next game for the CL qualification.

Romero; Darmian, Smalling, Blind?, Shaw; Schweinsteiger, Carrick; Mata, Herrera, Young, Rooney

I still like Young over Januzaj or Depay and bring in Herrera for that little bit of creativity and workrate. Hopefully Rooney can bag a goal this upcoming game for confidence.

Nevertheless, we've gotten 6 points in 2 games and i'm happy with that! Hope we keep winning 3 points!
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Post#377 » by Shaazzam » Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:52 pm

Yeah I forgot to about out smalling. He was excellent yesterday. He might be turning into a pretty decent CB. Not neccesarilybon tuusday, but I would like to see perreira or however u spell his name get a sniff. He might have been the most dangerous player in preseason.
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Post#378 » by jirrit » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:35 am

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jirrit wrote:I don't really get the Biglia-love. I've seen him play for Anderlecht for like five years here, and that's in Belgium.. Guess he has improved much

He had a great season last year with Lazio and did well in the World Cup. Not worth over 20mill tho


OK but is he the guy who's gonna make Man U that much better when you already have players like Fellaini, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, etc.. Not saying he's worse than them but is he soooo much better? Nope.
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Post#379 » by jirrit » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:37 am

TNBT wrote:Oh well, we're 2-0 at the moment. Januzaj gets a chance and scores the game-winner. LVG has said since that he needs to do more than just score to make up for last season, specifically working on maintaining possession and not turning the ball over. I'm a huge fan of Januzaj personally and I think he will be a star for us, but LVG probably has a point.


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As a Belgian that's why I'm following Man Utd. I hope he gets there, he sure has the talent... But he needs to play more and need to build confidence. Big chance next game he's on the bench again or maybe not even in the squad..
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Post#380 » by Lakers415 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:33 pm

United should of kept raphael... The most talented rightback in the EPL.

He might have angry bursts, but with the right manager, he could be unleashed.

United needs to figure out what they are going to do tactically. Depay right now is all potential and Mata is wasted on the right wing. You can keep trying to win games 1-0, but sooner, rather than later, the opposition will score.

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