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Thoughts after Shaq's 1st game....

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Post#61 » by Patterns » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:26 am

Poor Officiating? Please.

You guys shot 30 freethrows, we shot 26. You guys had 22 fouls, we had 24.

Hardly poor officiating. Amare was on Odom all night for offensive rebounds and no one called that.
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Post#62 » by BurningHeart » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:35 am

Who gives a damn about free throw numbers? The officiating was awful BOTH ways. Stop looking at numbers as a basis for good officiating. Just because the numbers were close to equal doesnt mean good fouls were called and good no-calls were made.

I hate that thinking.
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Post#63 » by -SDU- » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:06 am

anyone who doesnt think the officiating was poor obviously didnt watch this game

@ patterns - equal fouls does not equal fair umpiring

some of the calls were laughable, not the least of which was the jump ball between shaq and gasol in the 4th that they said was off of the suns when it went out of bounds? madness.

then the blocking foul called on shaq, but gasol does the exact same thing on an amare drive at the other end with no call??????

and thats just small examples, there were shocking calls both ways and in general the umpiring crew was just not up to oficiating a game of this standard
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Post#64 » by eatyourchildren » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:49 am

-SDU- wrote:anyone who doesnt think the officiating was poor obviously didnt watch this game

@ patterns - equal fouls does not equal fair umpiring

some of the calls were laughable, not the least of which was the jump ball between shaq and gasol in the 4th that they said was off of the suns when it went out of bounds? madness.

then the blocking foul called on shaq, but gasol does the exact same thing on an amare drive at the other end with no call??????

and thats just small examples, there were shocking calls both ways and in general the umpiring crew was just not up to oficiating a game of this standard


Sorry guys, but the reality is that without the number of angles that are available to the actual NBA refs, we're pretty much left to speculate on many, if not most, of the calls that we don't like. The best you can hope for is an equal number of fouls being called. I'm sure that for example you can come up with as a Suns fan, a Lakers fan can do the same e.g. Amare barging into Nash, Lakers called for the foul.
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Post#65 » by Chubby Chaser » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:05 pm

Only the losing team complains about "horrible officiating"
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Post#66 » by -SDU- » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:14 pm

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Sorry guys, but the reality is that without the number of angles that are available to the actual NBA refs, we're pretty much left to speculate on many, if not most, of the calls that we don't like. The best you can hope for is an equal number of fouls being called. I'm sure that for example you can come up with as a Suns fan, a Lakers fan can do the same e.g. Amare barging into Nash, Lakers called for the foul.


check the jump ball call and tell me the ref wasnt in a good enough position

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the amare pushing nash call over was TERRIBLE too, youll see i said it was terrible BOTH ways, because it was. That umpiring crew was just not up to such a big game
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Post#67 » by guaves13 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:23 pm

I think it's interesting that Laker fans seem to think that when Bynum comes back he is just going to jump right back into the rythum he had before his injury. He is still a very young player and he has been out awhile. His team has changed since he left. You don't really know what player you will get when he comes back. The inconsistent Bynum that we all knew before this year or the one we saw before his injury. He doesn't have the body of work behind him to ensure that he is going to be the same player.
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Post#68 » by -SDU- » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:27 pm

^ yet they want to judge shaq by his first game in 2 months :crazy:
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Post#69 » by BurningHeart » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:48 pm

Kobe D wrote:Only the losing team complains about "horrible officiating"


Actually, plenty of people everywhere complained about the officiating. Get off your high horse.
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Post#70 » by eatyourchildren » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:52 pm

guaves13 wrote:I think it's interesting that Laker fans seem to think that when Bynum comes back he is just going to jump right back into the rythum he had before his injury. He is still a very young player and he has been out awhile. His team has changed since he left. You don't really know what player you will get when he comes back. The inconsistent Bynum that we all knew before this year or the one we saw before his injury. He doesn't have the body of work behind him to ensure that he is going to be the same player.


Why is this so hard to comprehend? If Suns fans can think that Shaq will go full steam ahead like this the rest of the regular season and into the playoffs, why is it so 'interesting' (or worse) to think that Bynum will have an easy (or better) transition back into the Lakers?

Bynum had nothing less than a breakout year. Do you know what that means? It means that he shed the inconsistent title that people harped on him about last year. Which means that, barring his body failing him (sounds familiar to you Suns fans, doesn't it?), Bynum will re-enter an offense that now has improved interior passing, improved outside shooting, and more opportunities to operate in the post like Dwight Howard does i.e. beasting the glass for easy putbacks and catching over the top for alley-oops.

So really, is it that complicated a notion to think that the Lakers will be better upon Bynum's return, just like the Suns are upon Shaq's introduction?
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Post#71 » by Mr. Sun » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:32 pm

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Post#72 » by eatyourchildren » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:41 pm

I guess my expectations were too high for this or any threads on the Suns board--you know, constructive discourse about our favorite teams matching up.

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