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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#61 » by Cutter » Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:01 am

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And pray-tell kind sir, why exactly is this denial? :D

You see no possiblity that Nash could play out the remainder of his elite years as a Suns starter then move to the bench?
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#62 » by Kerrsed » Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:05 am

Cutter wrote:You see no possiblity that Nash could play out the remainder of his elite years as a Suns starter then move to the bench?


Correct.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#63 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:11 am

To be honest, I think 40 yo Nash will still be better than Dragic at that point. I see Nash retiring before he has to come off the bench (not in the AI Canswer way though).
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#64 » by L2M4G » Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:57 am

Really good debate here guys. I'm glad I've joined this board.

First of all, I'm selfish and Nash is my favourite player, so I don't want him traded. I think we've actually done reasonably well to be 8-9 after the schedule from hell in November.

I would take offence at the post that suggested J-Rich wouldn't start on any other team. The Bulls would die for him to start at the 2 and that's just one example.

It's extremely difficult when you have a player like Nash who simply is the franchise. He is a wonderful human being, a basketball phenom, and a freak of an athlete.

I also refuse to give up on this team. I have seen some very impressive stuff and if Lopez can get back and give us some grunt in the middle, we can surprise a few.

Keep the faith brothers. Stick with Steve and enjoy watching probably the greatest Phoenix Sun ever finish his career in Phoenix.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#65 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:26 am

L2M4G wrote:I would take offence at the post that suggested J-Rich wouldn't start on any other team. The Bulls would die for him to start at the 2 and that's just one example.

Don't know if JRich would put them over the top (ie Lakers/Boston category), but they would be a seriously good team with a lineup of Rose/JRich/Deng/Boozer/Noah. Great rebounding and very balanced scoring threats from 1-4.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#66 » by Christine-In-AZ » Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:49 am

Cutter wrote:Finally at the end of the 2015 NBA season, at the age of 41, Steve Nash will retire from basketball to the front office of the Suns organization.


I believe you're right about him retiring at 41. A still averaging 8 ast per game Stockton retired one month after his 41st birthday. Should Nash do the same, Steve will play 4 more seasons after this one. But I seriously doubt he'll be going into the FO...be a "lifer". He's got better plans for his "afterlife".
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#67 » by Kerrsed » Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:49 am

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L2M4G wrote:I would take offence at the post that suggested J-Rich wouldn't start on any other team. The Bulls would die for him to start at the 2 and that's just one example.

Don't know if JRich would put them over the top (ie Lakers/Boston category), but they would be a seriously good team with a lineup of Rose/JRich/Deng/Boozer/Noah. Great rebounding and very balanced scoring threats from 1-4.


Yeah but if Jrich went to Chicago Deng would be coming back no matter what. So change that line-up to Rose/Jrich/Gibson?/Boozer/Noah.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#68 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Dec 1, 2010 7:58 am

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L2M4G wrote:I would take offence at the post that suggested J-Rich wouldn't start on any other team. The Bulls would die for him to start at the 2 and that's just one example.

Don't know if JRich would put them over the top (ie Lakers/Boston category), but they would be a seriously good team with a lineup of Rose/JRich/Deng/Boozer/Noah. Great rebounding and very balanced scoring threats from 1-4.


Yeah but if Jrich went to Chicago Deng would be coming back no matter what. So change that line-up to Rose/Jrich/Gibson?/Boozer/Noah.


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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#69 » by Sandra » Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:56 pm

Yeah but if Jrich went to Chicago Deng would be coming back no matter what. So change that line-up to Rose/Jrich/Gibson?/Boozer/Noah.


We don't need Deng
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#70 » by DRK » Thu Dec 2, 2010 11:59 am

The Bulls have to include Deng in any trade if they were to get J-Rich. Its all to do with salary.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#71 » by Cutter » Fri Dec 3, 2010 1:29 am

If we are going to move JRich this year and he were to go to Chicago, getting Luol Deng as past of the package would be fine by me. It would certainy add to our wings logjam but he wuld be by far the best SF on the team.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#72 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Dec 3, 2010 1:40 am

I don't see how Deng helps us. Sure he's an overall upgrade to a few of our SF's, but for his deal and how stacked we are at the 3, we really don't need him. Unless we're getting back Noah or we move Hedo as well, I wouldn't give up JRich.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#73 » by Cutter » Fri Dec 3, 2010 2:10 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I don't see how Deng helps us. Sure he's an overall upgrade to a few of our SF's, but for his deal and how stacked we are at the 3, we really don't need him. Unless we're getting back Noah or we move Hedo as well, I wouldn't give up JRich.


I'm starting to agree that giving up J-Rich would be a big mistake. Suns have no defense or rebouding, all we have is offense. Trading J-Rich would gut the offense and leave us with neither one.

I Know in theory we would get good assets in return or else we wouldn't trade him, but would get a 20 ppg 3 point shooting, average defense player in return?
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#74 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Dec 3, 2010 3:14 am

I'd rather resign JRich than trade him FOR Deng.
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Re: The Suns without Nash 

Post#75 » by BurningHeart » Fri Dec 3, 2010 6:11 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'd rather resign JRich than trade him FOR Deng.


Totally agreed.

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