ImageImageImage

Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST

Moderators: bwgood77, Qwigglez, lilfishi22

Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,369
And1: 22,185
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#101 » by Revived » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 am

darealjuice wrote:Not a bad loss to come so close against a playoff team with Book having an off night.

Giannis didn’t play today and the Bucks aren’t a playoff team without him (even Suns are better than them):

Image

But to the rest of your point, yeah we aren’t beating anyone with Booker struggling as much as he did today.
Funky Tut
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,393
And1: 807
Joined: Nov 29, 2012
         

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#102 » by Funky Tut » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 am

Revived wrote:Khris Middleton is actually Michael Jordan.


Against us he always seems to be .”
User avatar
darealjuice
Suns Forum Future All Star
Posts: 6,694
And1: 8,900
Joined: Apr 22, 2016
Location: Phoenix
   

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#103 » by darealjuice » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:26 am

Revived wrote:
darealjuice wrote:Not a bad loss to come so close against a playoff team with Book having an off night.

Giannis didn’t play today and the Bucks aren’t a playoff team without him (even Suns are better than them):

Image

But to the rest of your point, yeah we aren’t beating anyone with Booker struggling as much as he did today.


Wouldn't underestimate the dead coach bounce though. I'm sure the players were extra motivated to play well and not look like the reason Kidd was fired. They probably have more developed talent than us even without Giannis playing anyways too.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 97,960
And1: 60,906
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#104 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:44 am

darealjuice wrote:
Revived wrote:
darealjuice wrote:Not a bad loss to come so close against a playoff team with Book having an off night.

Giannis didn’t play today and the Bucks aren’t a playoff team without him (even Suns are better than them):

Image

But to the rest of your point, yeah we aren’t beating anyone with Booker struggling as much as he did today.


Wouldn't underestimate the dead coach bounce though. I'm sure the players were extra motivated to play well and not look like the reason Kidd was fired. They probably have more developed talent than us even without Giannis playing anyways too.


Yeah, I thought we had a good chance and I think that graphic can be a little bit misleading since usually Giannis is probably off the floor when other starters are also sitting. Plus a game plan without him is different than how you play when he is resting in game.

And even though they've lost 4 of 5 and 6 of 10 those losses were to the Warriors, Raptors, Heat, Pacers and Sixers and they had recently beaten the Pacers, TWolves, Thunder and Pacers.

Also, any close loss isn't that bad of a loss if Booker shoots 2-14. I'm surprised we were so close considering that and the fact that Brogdon and Middleton had 67 points on like 24 of 33 shooting.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said:
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
User avatar
Beetlejuice
Junior
Posts: 402
And1: 151
Joined: Dec 21, 2011
Location: Estonia

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#105 » by Beetlejuice » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:12 am

TJ is getting there !

now we have this positive thing out of the way ...

Booker played like he really is one of the worst defensive players in the league. Mistake after mistake after mistake . A really sad sight. I dont get those All star calls yet, although he does play all star D already (game). Always 2-3 feet too close to the basket leaving his man open behind the three point line yeah you get like 1 rebound more per game but winning is better. Also inconsistent effort fighting through screens. Sometimes losing his man. Some possessions just can not be bothered to give any effort.
Jdiddy701
RealGM
Posts: 10,145
And1: 6,555
Joined: Jun 05, 2006

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#106 » by Jdiddy701 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:47 am

Really thought it was time for Bender to take over as a starter for Chriss.. all Bender is a wide open stretch big man. Come back soon Marquese Chriss.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jcsunsfan
Head Coach
Posts: 6,477
And1: 4,829
Joined: Dec 20, 2006
     

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#107 » by jcsunsfan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:34 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:Really thought it was time for Bender to take over as a starter for Chriss.. all Bender is a wide open stretch big man. Come back soon Marquese Chriss.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


I am fine if we take a quality pf in this draft if that is what comes to us. Someone is going to have to step up and take the starting role. The opportunity is there. Men aren't built through coddling, otherwise Marines would take their mommies with them to boot camp (hear that Earl).
ImNotMcDiSwear
General Manager
Posts: 8,285
And1: 6,408
Joined: Dec 14, 2013
 

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#108 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:39 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:Really thought it was time for Bender to take over as a starter for Chriss.. all Bender is a wide open stretch big man. Come back soon Marquese Chriss.


He's doing what he's being instructed to do out there on offense. I liked his defense last night, even if Brogdon was able to make some very tough layups over him.

Thought we should have tried him at C against Henson and Maker. He's about the same size as those guys.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 97,960
And1: 60,906
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#109 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:05 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Really thought it was time for Bender to take over as a starter for Chriss.. all Bender is a wide open stretch big man. Come back soon Marquese Chriss.


He's doing what he's being instructed to do out there on offense. I liked his defense last night, even if Brogdon was able to make some very tough layups over him.

Thought we should have tried him at C against Henson and Maker. He's about the same size as those guys.


His 3 pt shooting is good enough this year to open up the offense. And he makes some nice passes at times...but other than that he doesn't look so good on offense...when he is trying to screen...and he really needs to start taking it to the rim when the matchup is right.

On defense he usually looks pretty good and disrupts shots often and sometimes blocks some shots...but it's not real consistent. Hopefully we see some improvement down the stretch and if they rotate next year, they make that big jump in play like many players do in their third year.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said:
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
Saberestar
RealGM
Posts: 22,279
And1: 16,928
Joined: May 21, 2010

Re: Game 47: Phoenix Suns (17-29) at Milwaukee Bucks (23-22), Monday, Jan 22, 6PM MST 

Post#110 » by Saberestar » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:47 pm

Jackson took an step back in his development in this game, he was out of control a few times and took bad decisions.

And Bender was Bender.Not more, not less.

Ulis played his worst game of the season IMO. Really bad with or without the ball and he could not defend Bled at all.

Return to Phoenix Suns