Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

[King4Day]

Best offer for yabusele?

I'm sure others will know but I've never heard of him. Who's that?

Dancing Bear.
16th pick in last years draft.

The Suns have too many bigs as it is. I don't know enough about Yabusele to comment. Someone else might be able to though.

[Weemsickew14]

I'm sure others will know but I've never heard of him. Who's that?

Dancing Bear.
16th pick in last years draft.

The Suns have too many bigs as it is. I don't know enough about Yabusele to comment. Someone else might be able to though.

Yeah, zero need for the dude. That was a really random question by that Celtic fan.

[Frank Lee]

I’d trade chandler 10 times in 10 rather than Monroe. Further more, i play him and start him.... and then sign him.

I don’t understand this infatuation with a rim protecting big man… Is it because one through four can’t play D ??? I’m ready for some offense from the post… It only opens up the perimeter.

Mc Dreaming needs to wake up and realize there are but a few good offensive centers out the and available. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing to have a player traded to the suns and then embrace that move

[bwgood77]

I'd do that George Hill/Koufos for Tank Master/Monroe

Clearing cap for 2019, George Hill was always the best prototype PG to play next to Booker.
Koufos is probably better than Alex.

They are not gonna trade for Brandon Knightmare. We would have to add first round picks in that offer.

Keep it simple... Greg Monroe and a 2nd for George Hill. They can buy out Monroe and save around $3M this season and $19M next year.

Fox has been really good for them, earlier than expected. He is ready to play 35 mpg. And they have Frank Mason III too, so suddenly they don't need Hill. Good opportunity for us to get a good PG.

Fox has actually been terrible. 3rd worst rookie in defensive rating and 7th/8th worst eFG% and TS% out of 34 qualified rookies in eFG% and TS% (neck and neck with JJ on the shooting). He is 13th worst in offensive rating for a net rating of -19.4

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/stats/2018/Advanced_Stats/Qualified/drtg/All/desc/1/Regular_Season?rookies=

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/stats/2018/Advanced_Stats/Qualified/efg_pct/All/asc/1/Regular_Season?rookies=

Kings may figure they may as well start him but they signed Hill to have that vet around so I'm not sure they want to move on from him already. He started out poorly but has played better as of late.

I'd trade for him though...either one of the trades.

[Frank Lee]

...... no one is signing here if we keep trading away nba talent for draft picks and have nothing to show for it

Nutshelled nicely

[bwgood77]

I’d trade chandler 10 times in 10 rather than Monroe. Further more, i play him and start him.... and then sign him.

I don’t understand this infatuation with a rim protecting big man… Is it because one through four can’t play D ??? I’m ready for some offense from the post… It only opens up the perimeter.

Mc Dreaming needs to wake up and realize there are but a few good offensive centers out the and available. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing to have a player traded to the suns and then embrace that move

Last year Chandler was ranked 4th among centers in Ortg with a 129 rating while Monroe was ranked 44th with a 111 rating.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/stats/2017/Advanced_Stats/Qualified/ortg/C/desc/1/Regular_Season

http://bkref.com/tiny/DhRcm

There is a reason Detroit wouldn't give him a contract and Milwaukee has been trying to get rid of him forever. He's a decent player but nothing special. I mean we have nothing to lose by keeping him but he might not be as special as people are making him out to be.

[OGBAH]

Detroit had Drummond making big money
Bucks needed floor spacing
2 good reasons they didn’t need Monroe

[Saberestar]

I’d trade chandler 10 times in 10 rather than Monroe. Further more, i play him and start him.... and then sign him.

I don’t understand this infatuation with a rim protecting big man… Is it because one through four can’t play D ??? I’m ready for some offense from the post… It only opens up the perimeter.

Mc Dreaming needs to wake up and realize there are but a few good offensive centers out the and available. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing to have a player traded to the suns and then embrace that move

I would like to give Monroe an opportunity here to play and see how he fits with the team, but it looks like we have decided already to trade him or negotiate a buyout...that's why I made that offer.

[jcsunsfan]

Detroit had Drummond making big money
Bucks needed floor spacing
2 good reasons they didn’t need Monroe

Monroe took the QO in Detroit. He made the choice to move on.

[bwgood77]

Detroit had Drummond making big money
Bucks needed floor spacing
2 good reasons they didn’t need Monroe

Monroe took the QO in Detroit. He made the choice to move on.

Pistons were unwilling to pay him what he wanted. Not sure he liked playing with Drummond much but SVG didn't care about losing him.

[NTB]

So bw are you saying that Chandler is a better offensive player?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Detroit had Drummond making big money
Bucks needed floor spacing
2 good reasons they didn’t need Monroe

Monroe took the QO in Detroit. He made the choice to move on.

Pistons were unwilling to pay him what he wanted. Not sure he liked playing with Drummond much but SVG didn't care about losing him.

Detriot realized early you couldn't play him with another traditional big because of spacing problems.

He does fit ok with guys like bender and chriss because they can protect the rim and stretch the floor. I wouldn't mind them giving him a look just to see what a player like him looks stylistically in the offense. It could help determine who they target in the draft or FA.

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[Saberestar]

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[MathiasPW]

I’d trade chandler 10 times in 10 rather than Monroe. Further more, i play him and start him.... and then sign him.

I don’t understand this infatuation with a rim protecting big man… Is it because one through four can’t play D ??? I’m ready for some offense from the post… It only opens up the perimeter.

Mc Dreaming needs to wake up and realize there are but a few good offensive centers out the and available. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing to have a player traded to the suns and then embrace that move

Last year Chandler was ranked 4th among centers in Ortg with a 129 rating while Monroe was ranked 44th with a 111 rating.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/stats/2017/Advanced_Stats/Qualified/ortg/C/desc/1/Regular_Season

http://bkref.com/tiny/DhRcm

There is a reason Detroit wouldn't give him a contract and Milwaukee has been trying to get rid of him forever. He's a decent player but nothing special. I mean we have nothing to lose by keeping him but he might not be as special as people are making him out to be.

What's with the sudden love affair with ORtg and DRtg as THE single player evaluation tool?

[NTB]

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I was gonna post this. Wtf? Why would they suffer respiratory issues?

[bwgood77]

So bw are you saying that Chandler is a better offensive player?

Well that of course depends on how you look at it. Chandler is much more efficient with over 70% TS% last year whereas Monroe was at 57% Monroe scored a little more (11.7 ppg to 8.4 ppg). Chandler doesn't look for offense as much.

65% of Monroe's attempts are at the rim too and 25% are short mid range so he really only can operate in very close proximity to the basket. Of course pretty much all of Chandler's shots are at the rim, thus the high efficiency.

They are both assisted on their shots at about the same rate...around 60%.

Chandler is a much better rebounder and probably a better leader who I feel is helping our youngsters.

I'm not opposed to playing Monroe, though I'd probably still start Chandler for his rebounding and leadership.

Monroe's not the type of guy these days you want to dump a lot of money into in FA. He has no range, no rim protection, not a great defender, and just an avg rebounder for a C. There is a reason no one wanted to trade for him even though he was on the block forever. He did help the Bucks second unit last year once they decided to play him but Thon (who was really raw and basically could only stretch the floor) started down the stretch.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Monroe took the QO in Detroit. He made the choice to move on.

Pistons were unwilling to pay him what he wanted. Not sure he liked playing with Drummond much but SVG didn't care about losing him.

Detriot realized early you couldn't play him with another traditional big because of spacing problems.

He does fit ok with guys like bender and chriss because they can protect the rim and stretch the floor. I wouldn't mind them giving him a look just to see what a player like him looks stylistically in the offense. It could help determine who they target in the draft or FA.

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If we play Monroe, we have to trade Chandler or Len. Len won't give up his bird rights, I'm fairly confident. So our options are to buyout Monroe, or trade one of Monroe or Chandler. Tyson's good for our kids, and we might be able to use him next year as well.

Monroe would give us something none of our kids have played with in the NBA - a big with a post game. Would that be a useful change? Our kids have played with and learned a lot from Chandler, and he continues to be a great leader, but haven't they learned most of what they're going to learn from him already? I would think so. But if Monroe worked for us, would we want, need or even be able to re-sign him if we wanted to? Would we be okay going into next offseason having only Williams and Bender under contract at the C spot?

Ultimately, the question is, Who wants centers? Anyone want this one or that one?

I am okay with just buying Monroe out if that's what works best. Chandler will almost certainly have a new mentee if he sticks around another year. If we dealt him, well, no biggie, centers are cheap. So I'm totally flexible on this matter.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

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I was gonna post this. Wtf? Why would they suffer respiratory issues?

Ummm... a cold?

[bwgood77]

I’d trade chandler 10 times in 10 rather than Monroe. Further more, i play him and start him.... and then sign him.

I don’t understand this infatuation with a rim protecting big man… Is it because one through four can’t play D ??? I’m ready for some offense from the post… It only opens up the perimeter.

Mc Dreaming needs to wake up and realize there are but a few good offensive centers out the and available. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing to have a player traded to the suns and then embrace that move

Last year Chandler was ranked 4th among centers in Ortg with a 129 rating while Monroe was ranked 44th with a 111 rating.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/stats/2017/Advanced_Stats/Qualified/ortg/C/desc/1/Regular_Season

http://bkref.com/tiny/DhRcm

There is a reason Detroit wouldn't give him a contract and Milwaukee has been trying to get rid of him forever. He's a decent player but nothing special. I mean we have nothing to lose by keeping him but he might not be as special as people are making him out to be.

What's with the sudden love affair with ORtg and DRtg as THE single player evaluation tool?

It's not THE only one, but it's one way to look at it. I just posted more.

[Saberestar]

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I was gonna post this. Wtf? Why would they suffer respiratory issues?

Ummm... a cold?

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