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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1161 » by Kerrsed » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:09 am

bwgood77 wrote:I'd definitely take Curry, Paul, Parker (especially at his price) and probably MCW on a rookie contract...he's shown much more as a rookie than Bledsoe could have dreamed of. Rose if he was healthy, but probably not at this point. I'd definitely take Teague or Conley at half the price, and probably Lawson. These guys have proved themselves over years starting and are not injury prone. But if he is paid as much as he wants, or even close, Dragic rightfully so will demand at least as much, and he is also better.


Teague might be an option as i hear rumblings that Atlanta would do a S&T for Bledsoe and include Teague. Unfortunately, they dont want to part with Horford or Milsap, so they dont really have any other assets that really interest us.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1162 » by NapoleonII » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:11 am

Kevin Martin....nope.

He couldn't do **** next to Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka, you think Kevin Martin is going to be in any contender's lineup? He's soft, can't finish and is a below average defender.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1163 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:11 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I'd definitely take Curry, Paul, Parker (especially at his price) and probably MCW on a rookie contract...he's shown much more as a rookie than Bledsoe could have dreamed of. Rose if he was healthy, but probably not at this point. I'd definitely take Teague or Conley at half the price, and probably Lawson. These guys have proved themselves over years starting and are not injury prone. But if he is paid as much as he wants, or even close, Dragic rightfully so will demand at least as much, and he is also better.


Teague might be an option as i hear rumblings that Atlanta would do a S&T for Bledsoe and include Teague. Unfortunately, they dont want to part with Horford or Milsap, so they dont really have any other assets that really interest us.


I'd take him and Korver. A wide open Korver is the most dangerous shooter in the league.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1164 » by drewsprocket » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:21 am

bwgood77 wrote:
drewsprocket wrote:Ok fine I'll give you that he's top 10 but i'd rather have Bledsoe at this point than Rondo, Paul, Parker, Michael Carter, Curry, Deron Will, Irving, Knight, Rubio, Rose...who else you got? Ok I'll take Wall, Lillard, and maybe Westbrook over Bledsoe. But we all know that, if healthy, Bledsoe's defensive abilities combined with his offensive traits are as rare as they come.
Bled despite his injury and potential risk is still worth considerable money- perhaps not more than what the suns offered but its enough. Just because he's off base and asking for the max doesn't mean he's **** trash.

Not that he will, but if he does sign for the QO, and plays a full season - he's GONE with nothing in return.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take Wiggins for Bled straight up. But that's not gonna happen.


I'd definitely take Curry, Paul, Parker (especially at his price) and probably MCW on a rookie contract...he's shown much more as a rookie than Bledsoe could have dreamed of. Rose if he was healthy, but probably not at this point. I'd definitely take Teague or Conley at half the price, and probably Lawson. These guys have proved themselves over years starting and are not injury prone. But if he is paid as much as he wants, or even close, Dragic rightfully so will demand at least as much, and he is also better.

It just goes to show how wide our appreciation of other players are as fans. Why take Lawson when you got IT already? Both are undersized pgs who love to take it to the hole.
MCW doesn't impress me on the Sixers -- anyone can hang numbers on their squad. Curry is just as much of an injury risk as Bled and Paul is past his prime.
Bledsoe is just so dynamic, young and poised to play better save for concerns of his knee.

So far Lebron has dominated talks of our offseason and even now waiting to hear that Bled is re-signed there is still the lingering of Lebron's presence due to his Agent trying to jack up the price to continue to make a name for himself.
TJ Warren has been the only bright spot. I'm excited to see him play off the bench next year and perhaps compete with Tucker who'll need to make sure his corner 3 is falling.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1165 » by thamadkant » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:27 am

Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1166 » by drewsprocket » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:35 am

1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1167 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:38 am

1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis


Jennings is not a guy I want...other than that it's actually good for all teams IF Atlanta is worried about injuries with Horford and our staff felt good about it. If the Hawks think Horford will be fine, then that is not a very good deal for them. Teague is more reliable than Bledsoe and I think one of the most underrated point guards in the league. Korver would be a big loss and they would need a shooter or at least a decent SF to replace him. I'd much rather get Caldwell Pope than Jennings though.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1168 » by KLEON » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:42 am

1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis

:crazy: :nonono:
Bumboclaat!!!! I can't believe you want this chucker on the Suns. There is no way u r a Suns' fan
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1169 » by matt131 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:53 am

1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis


If we could somehow end up with Teague and Horford... :love:

Teague/IT
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
Tucker/Marcus/Warren
Horford/Keef
Plumlee/Len

Terrible 3 point shooting team, but we'd be huge and deep.
(we'd probably have to give up a pick as well. Horford and Keef would run together at the end of games)
(granted, I didn't know Horford's injuries were of any concern)
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1170 » by gaspar » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:01 am

Man, this thread...
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1171 » by thamadkant » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:03 am

KLEON wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis

:crazy: :nonono:
Bumboclaat!!!! I can't believe you want this chucker on the Suns. There is no way u r a Suns' fan


F$&K YOU and your whole existence boy for even questioning my fan hood.

I don't even want to justify replying to your disrespectful a$$ but to spell it out to your dumb a$$ that was the only way I assumed I can get Pistons to trade Monroe to hawks and Suns get Horford from Hawks.

Why don't you post a trade idea so I can trash it and everyone else see if you have any creativity or any ideas.

Way over the top, both of y'all please keep it to basketball talk

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1172 » by thamadkant » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:08 am

drewsprocket wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis

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I still want Horford on the Suns.. Figured only way Pistons would let Monroe go is if they can get away from Jennings... And Hawks will only let Horford go is if they replace him with another good big man.

Suns have to take a not so good asset to get a really good asset.


Pistons / Suns don't really make sense

Hawks / Suns same as above

I combined both to solve each other's problems.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1173 » by thamadkant » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:11 am

matt131 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis


If we could somehow end up with Teague and Horford... :love:

Teague/IT
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
Tucker/Marcus/Warren
Horford/Keef
Plumlee/Len

Terrible 3 point shooting team, but we'd be huge and deep.
(we'd probably have to give up a pick as well. Horford and Keef would run together at the end of games)
(granted, I didn't know Horford's injuries were of any concern)



Maybe tweak it so Korver gets to start... League leader in 3pters

Warren has shown some potential I think he can step up with Green going out... We all have to remember Green will most likely go for a big pay day next season... Somewhere in the 7-8 million a year.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1174 » by KLEON » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:13 am

1UPZ wrote:
KLEON wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver



Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis

:crazy: :nonono:
Bumboclaat!!!! I can't believe you want this chucker on the Suns. There is no way u r a Suns' fan


F$&K YOU and your whole existence boy for even questioning my fan hood.

I don't even want to justify replying to your disrespectful a$$ but to spell it out to your dumb a$$ that was the only way I assumed I can get Pistons to trade Monroe to hawks and Suns get Horford from Hawks.

Why don't you post a trade idea so I can trash it and everyone else see if you have any creativity or any ideas.

:lol: Calm down mam, its not that serious
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1175 » by thamadkant » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:17 am

bwgood77 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis


That's actually good for all teams IF Atlanta is worried about injuries with Horford and our staff felt good about it. If the Hawks think Horford will be fine, then that is not a very good deal for them. Teague is more reliable than Bledsoe and I think one of the most underrated point guards in the league. Korver would be a big loss and they would need a shooter or at least a decent SF to replace him. Maybe if Caldwell Pope went to them it would make more sense, or they could just take Green.


I think Horford on the Suns solves so many problems they had last year... Rebounds, inside scoring, defense. Likely to boost suns to top 5 out west, someone to throw against Aldridge, Duncan, Ibaka, Howard etc


Hawks will probably consider it based solely on health of Horford as you said, maybe add a future pick to entice them.

I am assuming they really like Monroe enough to let Horford go.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1176 » by Revived » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:14 am

drewsprocket wrote:Ok fine I'll give you that he's top 10 but i'd rather have Bledsoe at this point than Rondo, Paul, Parker, Michael Carter, Curry, Deron Will, Irving, Knight, Rubio, Rose...who else you got? Ok I'll take Wall, Lillard, and maybe Westbrook over Bledsoe. But we all know that, if healthy, Bledsoe's defensive abilities combined with his offensive traits are as rare as they come.
Bled despite his injury and potential risk is still worth considerable money- perhaps not more than what the suns offered but its enough. Just because he's off base and asking for the max doesn't mean he's **** trash.

Not that he will, but if he does sign for the QO, and plays a full season - he's GONE with nothing in return.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take Wiggins for Bled straight up. But that's not gonna happen.

You would take Bledsoe over CP3, Parker and Curry?

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1177 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:16 am

I'm so excited that bumboclaat was used on this forum. Really an underused term. Good stuff

I'm also a bucks fan so I've had to live with jennings swaggy ass but yeah if taking him meant getting horford sign me up. IMO we contend with horford

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1178 » by aIvin adams » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:26 am

1UPZ wrote:
KLEON wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns / Hawks / Pistons

Suns:
In: Horford + Jennings + Korver
Out: Bledsoe + Plumlee + Green

Pistons:
In: Teague + Plumlee + Green
Out: Monroe + Jennings

Hawks
In: Bledsoe + Monroe
Out: Horford + Teague + Korver


Suns
C: Horford / Len
PF: Morris / Morris / Randolph
SF: Tucker / Warren
SG: Dragic / Korver / Goodwin
PG: Jennings / Thomas / Ennis

:crazy: :nonono:
Bumboclaat!!!! I can't believe you want this chucker on the Suns. There is no way u r a Suns' fan


F$&K YOU and your whole existence boy for even questioning my fan hood.


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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1179 » by KaneSFFL » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:03 am

There's some wacky proposals here. Some of the guys here I think have gone a little cuckoo this offseason..Chris Paul is past his prime? Bledsoe>curry, cp3, kyrie or tony? :crazy:



I would love horford and korver, if we could trade bled plus green and a pick for that I would do it! Atl prob doesn't do that deal with Teague though.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 3 

Post#1180 » by asudevil » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:10 am

LukasBMW wrote:Also, if he takes the qualifying offer, can we trade him this season?

I'd like clarification on that.


I'm fairly certain that if Bledsoe takes his QO, then he must approve any trade between now and next offseason.

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