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When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?

5th season
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6th season
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7th season
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Post#1261 » by darealjuice » Sat Apr 1, 2017 5:18 pm

sunsbum wrote:People are obviously making the Kobe comparison on the offensive side. Booker will never be a great defender, just like he will never be a super athletic player. You can still be great in this league with average defense. Booker is already better than Brandon Roy.


No he's not. I think he will be by the time he's 22 like Roy was as a rookie, but Roy was a better ball handler, better passer, he turned the ball over less, and he was better defender than Book is now. He'd be one of the best guards in the league right now if his knees weren't made of paper mache.
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Post#1262 » by sunsbum » Sat Apr 1, 2017 6:07 pm

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sunsbum wrote:People are obviously making the Kobe comparison on the offensive side. Booker will never be a great defender, just like he will never be a super athletic player. You can still be great in this league with average defense. Booker is already better than Brandon Roy.


No he's not. I think he will be by the time he's 22 like Roy was as a rookie, but Roy was a better ball handler, better passer, he turned the ball over less, and he was better defender than Book is now. He'd be one of the best guards in the league right now if his knees weren't made of paper mache.


I would take Booker 10 times out of 10 over Roy. I don't think he was a better passer at all and I definitely don't think he would be one of the best gaurds in the league. He was a good player but I think his legacy is sprinkled with a little Kurt Cobainism.
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Post#1263 » by sunsbum » Sat Apr 1, 2017 6:09 pm

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sunsbum wrote:People are obviously making the Kobe comparison on the offensive side. Booker will never be a great defender, just like he will never be a super athletic player. You can still be great in this league with average defense. Booker is already better than Brandon Roy.


No he's not. I think he will be by the time he's 22 like Roy was as a rookie, but Roy was a better ball handler, better passer, he turned the ball over less, and he was better defender than Book is now. He'd be one of the best guards in the league right now if his knees weren't made of paper mache.


I would take Booker 10 times out of 10 over Roy. I don't think he was a better passer at all and I definitely don't think he would be one of the best guards in the league. He was a good player but I think his legacy is sprinkled with a little Kurt Cobainism.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft - Poll Updated AGAIN 

Post#1264 » by darealjuice » Sat Apr 1, 2017 6:09 pm

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sunsbum wrote:People are obviously making the Kobe comparison on the offensive side. Booker will never be a great defender, just like he will never be a super athletic player. You can still be great in this league with average defense. Booker is already better than Brandon Roy.


No he's not. I think he will be by the time he's 22 like Roy was as a rookie, but Roy was a better ball handler, better passer, he turned the ball over less, and he was better defender than Book is now. He'd be one of the best guards in the league right now if his knees weren't made of paper mache.


I would take Booker 10 times out of 10 over Roy. I don't think he was a better passer at all and I definitely don't think he would be one of the best gaurds in the league. He was a good player but I think his legacy is sprinkled with a little Kurt Cobainism.


Agree to disagree then I guess lol but I don't really see how you can think any of that
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Post#1265 » by sunsbum » Sat Apr 1, 2017 6:12 pm

I mean I watched him play his entire career here in Portland. If youre just going off of Booker now vs Roy at his peak @ 23 there's an argument to be made but I think Booker will be a far better at 23.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#1267 » by bwgood77 » Sun Apr 2, 2017 8:04 pm

darealjuice wrote:
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No he's not. I think he will be by the time he's 22 like Roy was as a rookie, but Roy was a better ball handler, better passer, he turned the ball over less, and he was better defender than Book is now. He'd be one of the best guards in the league right now if his knees weren't made of paper mache.


I would take Booker 10 times out of 10 over Roy. I don't think he was a better passer at all and I definitely don't think he would be one of the best gaurds in the league. He was a good player but I think his legacy is sprinkled with a little Kurt Cobainism.


Agree to disagree then I guess lol but I don't really see how you can think any of that


sunsbum wrote:I mean I watched him play his entire career here in Portland. If youre just going off of Booker now vs Roy at his peak @ 23 there's an argument to be made but I think Booker will be a far better at 23.


Booker isn't nearly as good overall as Roy was at his peak. Maybe he gets there with hard work by the same age. He's really not better overall than any of Roy's seasons prior to Roy's knees going bad. By the eye test, and just to check the numbers to make sure my eyes were not deceiving me, here is the vast difference in their #s. Roy kills him him pretty much every advanced metric. And Roy's first four years in the league he was better as well. Maybe his rookie year was close to what Booker has done this year, but that's fine, Booker is still a couple years younger than Roy was as a rookie.

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Post#1268 » by DirtyDez » Sun Apr 2, 2017 8:27 pm

Yeah, Booker isn't even close to peak-Roy but he will be within 2-3 years. Remember that Roy had 4 years of development at UW and entered the league a grown man though.

Michael Redd is also a good comparison. Booker's 3pt attempts will be closer to Redd than Roy.
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Post#1269 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:09 am

sunsbum wrote:People are obviously making the Kobe comparison on the offensive side. Booker will never be a great defender, just like he will never be a super athletic player. You can still be great in this league with average defense. Booker is already better than Brandon Roy.

I wouldn't go that far just yet.

Booker has thus far proven he can absolutely light up the score board like no one has seen for a 20yo. But he also has glaring weaknesses on the defensive end; to the point where on many nights, he gives up more defensively than he puts up offensively. Even offensively, Roy was a more efficient scorer than Booker. He's also still a work in progress when it comes to being a distributor and controlling tempo. Not to say he can't be on Roy's level as a playmaker and leader since Booker is still only 20 (Roy was already 22 when he entered the league) but he's certainly not there yet.

If you're comparison is between 23yo Roy and 23yo Booker, then you may be right but Booker will have to advance in all the areas of his game which are still weak compared to Roy who was an average to above average player in virtually all aspects of the game by the end of his second season.
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Post#1270 » by sunsbum » Mon Apr 3, 2017 3:39 am

Brandon Roy also had the luxury of being on a team with prime Lamarcus Aldridge, Zach Randolph and Nic Batum + whoever else was there. Booker has who to take any defensive pressure off him? They are constantly running Ning double teams at him and it's seems to be taking its toll on him as the season run a down. I'd still build my team around Booker over Roy.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#1271 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Apr 3, 2017 4:15 am

sunsbum wrote:Brandon Roy also had the luxury of being on a team with prime Lamarcus Aldridge, Zach Randolph and Nic Batum + whoever else was there. Booker has who to take any defensive pressure off him? They are constantly running Ning double teams at him and it's seems to be taking its toll on him as the season run a down. I'd still build my team around Booker over Roy.

Roy certainly had a more established team and he had more time to develop into a more complete player but it still stands that Booker isn't the better player of the two. Who you would take to build a team around is a different question completely because then you'd have to take into account age, health and potential, all of which arguably is in Booker's favour.
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Post#1272 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Apr 3, 2017 5:01 pm

Book has certainly developed into more than his pre-draft scouting report. He is still the shooter that everyone thought he was. But the big difference is his ability to create space for himself and make his own offense. He can score in almost every way possible. He has a quick release, step-back moves, and a tremendous ability to just "feel" his defender and move to an easy shot.
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Post#1273 » by bwgood77 » Mon Apr 3, 2017 5:41 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Book has certainly developed into more than his pre-draft scouting report. He is still the shooter that everyone thought he was. But the big difference is his ability to create space for himself and make his own offense. He can score in almost every way possible. He has a quick release, step-back moves, and a tremendous ability to just "feel" his defender and move to an easy shot.


Hopefully they start falling more consistently next year. For all the hype, you'd think he's shooting better than 42% overall and 36% from 3.
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Post#1274 » by carey » Mon Apr 3, 2017 6:20 pm

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jcsunsfan wrote:Book has certainly developed into more than his pre-draft scouting report. He is still the shooter that everyone thought he was. But the big difference is his ability to create space for himself and make his own offense. He can score in almost every way possible. He has a quick release, step-back moves, and a tremendous ability to just "feel" his defender and move to an easy shot.


Hopefully they start falling more consistently next year. For all the hype, you'd think he's shooting better than 42% overall and 36% from 3.


I'm comfortable with the 45/40 splits over the last 40 for now. He's the only guy out there defenses even give a **** about right now.
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Post#1275 » by bwgood77 » Mon Apr 3, 2017 7:01 pm

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jcsunsfan wrote:Book has certainly developed into more than his pre-draft scouting report. He is still the shooter that everyone thought he was. But the big difference is his ability to create space for himself and make his own offense. He can score in almost every way possible. He has a quick release, step-back moves, and a tremendous ability to just "feel" his defender and move to an easy shot.


Hopefully they start falling more consistently next year. For all the hype, you'd think he's shooting better than 42% overall and 36% from 3.


I'm comfortable with the 45/40 splits over the last 40 for now. He's the only guy out there defenses even give a **** about right now.

I expect a fairly significant jump in efficiency next year, barring a turf toe or other injury.
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I need mode evidence than her saying it was 14". I need a photo with a tape measure or a couple rulers.
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Post#1280 » by itlnsunsfan » Thu Apr 6, 2017 5:10 am

He was very not good against the Dubs.

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