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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

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Initial thoughts on KD for Bridges, Cam, Crowder, plus picks?

Love it!
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Wait and see...
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions 

Post#1541 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:39 am

Qwigglez wrote:
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Qwigglez wrote:I don't see Kyrie wanting to play with Luka. Most other stars traditionally, haven't really paired themselves with Euro stars. I don't see Kyrie supporting the idea of going to play for the Mavs because of this.

CP3 might be overpaid but he is still a star player and certainly better than any offer the Mavs send. Dallas doesn't have their 2023 draft pick either. I don't think KD would be thrilled to be playing with Dinwiddie, Wood, and whoever else. I mean... Luka is struggling with those guys as teammates, why would KD be any different? Why would KD be happy about that. KD would certainly demand a trade immediately after. He already casually threw his current teammates under the bus earlier in the season.


KD said he was happy with the guys he was playing with pre Kyrie. I don't think he meant to sound like he was throwing them under the bus..but it came out wrong.

Anyway, it's not up to him and he is not a guy that will sit out. But my reasoning I don't think they trade him unless they got a crazy good offer is the same as it was in the offseason. They have him under contract. I don't think he even wants out after the coaching change..he might be getting sick of Kyrie too.

Anyway, it's no use for me getting into repeating the same reasons I didn't think they would trade him in the offseason in which I was right, and since then him and others said he was having a lot of fun and loved his teammates (pre Kyrie coming back), they fired Nash, which was his ultimatum,and he came out and said he has nothing to prove and already won a championship.


So you think KD would be happy going from playing with Westbrook/Harden to Curry/Klay, to Kyrie/Harden and then to go to Kyrie/Simmons, and then be happy to finish his career with Dinwiddie and Christan Wood and Ben Simmons who is on a max contract putting up 7.4 points, 6.5 rebounds. 6.4 assists while shooting under 50% from the FT?

Also... that is just damage control KD saying he loves his teammates. No one is going to blatantly say their team is trash.


He said he was happy, even when they were not playing great, and he's been injured. I think there is far less chance he is traded in the next week than there was this summer, and I didn't think chances were very high then either. This offseason, possibly, but I still don't see us having great assets and long term it's probably better to have Bridges. The KD injury worries have come alive and if we had him now he'd just be another player who is out.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions 

Post#1542 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:40 am

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Nets had Dinwiddie. Stein is a clown :lol:


Yeah, and they liked him but signed Kyrie. Now Kyrie apparently wants out unless it is just negotiation leverage attempt. That would be a solid offer for him, and beats what we could offer unless we give up Bridges.
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Post#1543 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:41 am

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I call BS here! With a new billionaire owner incoming who just happens to also be from Detroit AND recently signing a supermax deal. This rumor is highly unlikely!


Where did Shams say this GoK?

Went back and tried to find a source because there's apparently nothing in Shams timeline as a source reference. I thought it might've been taken from an (Athletic article) as I don't subscribe and he has one up correlating to the Irving trade possibilities? But for now, until this guy shares a legit source, I'll have to view it as a fake tweet or BS!!! :nod:


I mean, look at his twitter handle.
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Post#1544 » by TeamTragic » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:59 am

bwgood77 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
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Nets had Dinwiddie. Stein is a clown :lol:


Yeah, and they liked him but signed Kyrie. Now Kyrie apparently wants out unless it is just negotiation leverage attempt. That would be a solid offer for him, and beats what we could offer unless we give up Bridges.


You never cease to amaze me BW :lol:
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Post#1545 » by BobbieL » Sat Feb 4, 2023 2:29 am

dremill24 wrote:
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Nets had Dinwiddie. Stein is a clown :lol:


Not that he is worth a first but if the suns could get Dinwiddie in that deal… would be nice


Why would we get him if the Nets want him in that deal?


Good question. Just know he would help the Suns

Clippers might get FVV

Lakers or Mavs might get Kyrie

Suns and Jones might need to figure something out. Granted a healthy Booker , Payne or Sham back and a player for Jae would be a lot at this point
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Post#1546 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sat Feb 4, 2023 2:54 am

I like Jones is All-Star shopping.

The right player with Booker is a contender.
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Post#1547 » by KLEON » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:18 am

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Could they be holding him out because of an impending trade?

Maybe?............ But Cam himself was quoted as saying it's precautionary as there was some swelling in the knee! I hope he doesn't end up having chronic issues because of this. :o

I'm surprised no one saw that he nearly snapped his leg vs the Hawks. I'm not surprised he didn't play tonight
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Post#1548 » by Qwigglez » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:20 am

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He said he was happy, even when they were not playing great, and he's been injured. I think there is far less chance he is traded in the next week than there was this summer, and I didn't think chances were very high then either. This offseason, possibly, but I still don't see us having great assets and long term it's probably better to have Bridges. The KD injury worries have come alive and if we had him now he'd just be another player who is out.


I didn't say anything about the Nets trading KD this week, just that if Kyrie is traded for Dinwiddie and whoever else from the Mavs that KD would likely ask out as well this summer.
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Post#1549 » by lilfishi22 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 3:45 am

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Phnxsports wrote:Is it me, or is it maddening that Suns fans on this board CONSISTENTLY overvalue our trade assets. Rant over.

Just you

This happens on every board, every fanbase


We are supposed to be better then that.

Why? What makes us extra special?
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Post#1550 » by bigfoot » Sat Feb 4, 2023 4:09 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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lilfishi22 wrote:Just you

This happens on every board, every fanbase


We are supposed to be better then that.

Why? What makes us extra special?


Frank and I make this place extra special. In another 30 years and 30 pounds, you youngsters should be able to hold down the fort while we are taking a dirt nap.
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Post#1551 » by Qwigglez » Sat Feb 4, 2023 4:26 am

bigfoot wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Phnxsports wrote:
We are supposed to be better then that.

Why? What makes us extra special?


Frank and I make this place extra special. In another 30 years and 30 pounds, you youngsters should be able to hold down the fort while we are taking a dirt nap.


Why is it only a nap?
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Post#1552 » by starbosa10 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 4:49 am

I want no part of Kyrie in Phoenix. Disaster waiting to happen.
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Post#1553 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:13 am

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He said he was happy, even when they were not playing great, and he's been injured. I think there is far less chance he is traded in the next week than there was this summer, and I didn't think chances were very high then either. This offseason, possibly, but I still don't see us having great assets and long term it's probably better to have Bridges. The KD injury worries have come alive and if we had him now he'd just be another player who is out.


I didn't say anything about the Nets trading KD this week, just that if Kyrie is traded for Dinwiddie and whoever else from the Mavs that KD would likely ask out as well this summer.


I doubt it but it's possible. If he did and again has a really short list of teams that couldn't put together a really nice package he definitely wouldn't go anywhere. I don't even know at his age if the Pelicans or Grizzlies would give up a lot for him. The Knicks would but not sure if they have enough good players even though they have tons of picks.
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Post#1554 » by bwgood77 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 5:14 am

TeamTragic wrote:
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Nets had Dinwiddie. Stein is a clown :lol:


Yeah, and they liked him but signed Kyrie. Now Kyrie apparently wants out unless it is just negotiation leverage attempt. That would be a solid offer for him, and beats what we could offer unless we give up Bridges.


You never cease to amaze me BW :lol:


Likewise.
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Post#1555 » by Frank Lee » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:25 am

Qwigglez wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Why? What makes us extra special?


Frank and I make this place extra special. In another 30 years and 30 pounds, you youngsters should be able to hold down the fort while we are taking a dirt nap.


Why is it only a nap?


I’m a light sleeper…. :eyebrows:
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Post#1556 » by Crives » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:33 am

I would rather trade expirings + a first for Kyrie then Ayton/Mikal/Cam and a lot of picks for injured KD
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Post#1557 » by Bogyo » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:00 am

Frank Lee wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
Frank and I make this place extra special. In another 30 years and 30 pounds, you youngsters should be able to hold down the fort while we are taking a dirt nap.


Why is it only a nap?


I’m a light sleeper…. :eyebrows:


So you are coming back as a ghost or a zombie?
If ghost, please write shorter posts as the other one! :D (j/k, love you Gok)
If zombi, and wanting to eat brains - do NOT chase Kyrie, you'll end up hungry even if you manage to catch him. :D
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Post#1558 » by Bogyo » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:32 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I like Jones is All-Star shopping.

The right player with Booker is a contender.


Yeah, and suddenly even I think that our blind squirrel of a "gm" has an actual chance with all these moving parts... Toronto's willingness about OG or Siakam (no to the midgets, they are problems, not solutions), the Kyrie drama could turn some rocks, etc... while we have all of our draft picks, a sought-after young guy in Cam, useful players on expirings (Crowder/Saric), useful players on non-expirings (Payne, Craig), and an aging win-now star with the big contract in GrandPaul, and a yucky filler in Shamet...
Basically you should be able to make a trade for every scenario. Win now if you think we are healthy enough? Done.
Facilitate a trade elsewhere and make a sneaky-good, but not earth-shattering for this year and next type acquisition? Sure.
Punt on the season (if Book is out), and make a move for next year? Absolutely!
So the pieces are there, the money behind from Ishbia is there - I'm just afraid that our "gm" will shoot us in the foot. :D
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Post#1559 » by BobbieL » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:13 pm

Crives wrote:I would rather trade expirings + a first for Kyrie then Ayton/Mikal/Cam and a lot of picks for injured KD


I do agree with this

A lot of buzz yesterday with Kyrie but my guess it will still be a three team trade

Crowder goes to team A
Team A sends players and seconds to team B

Team B sends player to suns
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Post#1560 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Feb 4, 2023 2:36 pm

KLEON wrote:
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NE1Care wrote: Could they be holding him out because of an impending trade?

Maybe?............ But Cam himself was quoted as saying it's precautionary as there was some swelling in the knee! I hope he doesn't end up having chronic issues because of this. :o

I'm surprised no one saw that he nearly snapped his leg vs the Hawks. I'm not surprised he didn't play tonight


Missed that game. He injured it in the Hawks game? Not sure IF that scenario is better or worse from a long term durability perspective honestly. I just hope it doesn't become a chronic or progressive issue. :-?
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