Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs

Barkley6 · Post #1601 » by **Barkley6** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:31 am

This is going to be a VERY interesting Suns season I feel.

If Teletovic and Weems end up being the players we want them to be, we could be a very good team.

If they end up being scrubs, we could be a very bad team.

bigfoot · Post #1602 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:31 am

Moochthemonkey wrote:
bigfoot wrote:Hey bwgood ... how bout updating the poll ...

What was the most important off season transaction

1) Trading away Marcus, Granger, Bullock to Pistons
2) Signing restricted free agent Brandon Knight
3) Signing free agent Tyson Chandler
4) Signing free agent Mirza Teletovic
5) Signing free agent Sunny Weems

Disrespectful. You forgot Ronnie Price

Dang ... must have been the bourbon

Post #1603 » by **batsmasher** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:35 am

What a f**king good off season. Well done McD.

"and does this mean we are trading xyz?": No, we are done. Bring on the season.

Cutter · Post #1604 » by **Cutter** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:38 am

SF88 wrote:
Scubetrolis wrote:Gambo's only late cause he is too busy obsessing over his fiance now.

She looks like she could be his daughter.

Wait. I've listened to Gambo for years. I could have sworn he was married. Did he get divorced?

Cutter · Post #1605 » by **Cutter** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:41 am

bigfoot wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:
bigfoot wrote:Hey bwgood ... how bout updating the poll ...

What was the most important off season transaction

1) Trading away Marcus, Granger, Bullock to Pistons
2) Signing restricted free agent Brandon Knight
3) Signing free agent Tyson Chandler
4) Signing free agent Mirza Teletovic
5) Signing free agent Sunny Weems

Disrespectful. You forgot Ronnie Price

Dang ... must have been the bourbon

That would be an interesting poll. I would vote signing Chandler as number one, although trading Marcus would be a close second.

bigfoot · Post #1606 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:43 am

Cutter wrote:
SF88 wrote:
Scubetrolis wrote:Gambo's only late cause he is too busy obsessing over his fiance now.

She looks like she could be his daughter.

Wait. I've listened to Gambo for years. I could have sworn he was married. Did he get divorced?

At least a year ago

[tweet]https://twitter.com/gambo987/status/481981024054685697[/tweet]

Post #1607 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:46 am

His daughter is hot

Mr-Al · Post #1608 » by **Mr-Al** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:47 am

wish it was a two year deal with Mirza

on a one year deal you can't really be a trade asset and you could just as easily be gone the next summer.

chances are he flourishes here and gets due for a lot more money, two year deal would have been much better

Mr Puddles · Post #1609 » by **Mr Puddles** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:49 am

We addressed some of our most pressing issues during this off season:

1. Interior defense (one of the worst in the league last season): Tyson Chandler
2. Rebounding (25th in rebounding differential): Tyson Chandler
3. Three point shooting (20th in the league last season): Knight, Booker, Teletubby

For the first time in modern Suns history we have a legitimate Center rotation. Weems is a solid, low risk backup.

Rotation next year (assuming no more trades):

Bledsoe 35 min / Goodwin (18 min) / Price (13th man)
Knight 35 min / Weems (8 min) / Booker (12th man)
PJ (26 min) / TJ (22min)
Kieff (32 min) / Teletubby (16 min) /Leuer (11th man)
Chandler (26 min) / Len (22 min)

Barkley6 · Post #1610 » by **Barkley6** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:58 am

Mr-Al wrote:wish it was a two year deal with Mirza

on a one year deal you can't really be a trade asset and you could just as easily be gone the next summer.

chances are he flourishes here and gets due for a lot more money, two year deal would have been much better

We're not going all in on any of our FA signings because we know they aren't the guys who will get us over the top. We want to maintain flexibility to get a star FA next year, think if we turned that cap space into DeMar DeRozan? who likely ends up being the cream of the FA crop (outside of Durant).

Also, think about it like this, you make the playoffs this year, go hard after a top tier FA next offseason, and all of a sudden you look like a top-4 or 5 team in the conference (in other words, in the conversation for a title), meaning those role players will be more likely to return to the team to continue the winning project.

I also don't think that Teletovic is going to perform SO well that we'll feel like we HAVE to sign him at all costs.

starbosa10 · Post #1611 » by **starbosa10** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:02 am

like these past few signings, low risk with some good upside but won't lock down cap space long term

thamadkant · Post #1612 » by **thamadkant** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:23 am

Rosterbation hat on

Suns / Thunder
Morris + Tucker + Cavs 2016 pick
for
Ibaka

Why for Thunder?
C: Adams
PF: Kanter
SF: Durant
SG: Morrow
PG: Westbrook
PF: Morris
SG: Waiters
SF: Tucker
SF/PF: Jones
C/PF: Collison
C:/PF: McGary
SG: Roberson

Champions, the depth and scoring off the bench. (Max contract for Kanter who has played extremely well with Westbrook, inside scoring finally)

Why for Suns?
C: Chandler / Len
PF: Ibaka / Teletovic / Leuer
SF: Weems / Warren
SG: Knight / Goodwin
PG: Bledsoe / McNeal / Price

RunDogGun · Post #1613 » by **RunDogGun** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:25 am

bigfoot wrote:
Moochthemonkey wrote:
bigfoot wrote:Hey bwgood ... how bout updating the poll ...

What was the most important off season transaction

1) Trading away Marcus, Granger, Bullock to Pistons
2) Signing restricted free agent Brandon Knight
3) Signing free agent Tyson Chandler
4) Signing free agent Mirza Teletovic
5) Signing free agent Sunny Weems

Disrespectful. You forgot Ronnie Price

Dang ... must have been the bourbon

Man you're right, you "don't think sometimes". :wink:

But really, how could you forget Price?

Sunsdeuce · Post #1614 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:28 am

1UPZ wrote:Rosterbation hat on

Suns / Thunder
Morris + Tucker + Cavs 2016 pick
for
Ibaka

Why for Thunder?
C: Adams
PF: Kanter
SF: Durant
SG: Morrow
PG: Westbrook
PF: Morris
SG: Waiters
SF: Tucker
SF/PF: Jones
C/PF: Collison
C:/PF: McGary
SG: Roberson

Champions, the depth and scoring off the bench.

Why for Suns?
C: Chandler / Len
PF: Ibaka / Teletovic / Leuer
SF: Weems / Warren
SG: Knight / Goodwin
PG: Bledsoe / McNeal / Price

While i understand your reasoning I don't like not having one front court player who can get points posting up. All those front court players you have there are hustle guys (except teletovic) not offensive guys.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1615 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:31 am

Bledsoe 14
Knight 14
Tucker 5
Morris 8
Chandler 12

Goodwin 1
Weems 3
Warren 2
Teletovic 5
Len 4

Price 1
Booker 2
Lauer 1
14th Player
15th Player

72m

Good - Nash/Richardson/Jackson and Bledsoe/Plumlee/Green
Bad - Thomas/Tolliver and Childress/Turkoglu/Warrick

Chandler, Weems, Teletovic?

thamadkant · Post #1616 » by **thamadkant** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:47 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Rosterbation hat on

Suns / Thunder
Morris + Tucker + Cavs 2016 pick
for
Ibaka

Why for Thunder?
C: Adams
PF: Kanter
SF: Durant
SG: Morrow
PG: Westbrook
PF: Morris
SG: Waiters
SF: Tucker
SF/PF: Jones
C/PF: Collison
C:/PF: McGary
SG: Roberson

Champions, the depth and scoring off the bench.

Why for Suns?
C: Chandler / Len
PF: Ibaka / Teletovic / Leuer
SF: Weems / Warren
SG: Knight / Goodwin
PG: Bledsoe / McNeal / Price

While i understand your reasoning I don't like not having one front court player who can get points posting up. All those front court players you have there are hustle guys (except teletovic) not offensive guys.

The target is to become a slashing/3pt team with a defensive Center... similar to the Warriors.

Stretching out the defense towards the 3pt line opens up lanes... then Suns 2 main scorers will have the paint to attack... the defense basically picks their poison... similar to the Warriors... they burn you from 3pt or via layups with Barnes, Curry, Iggy, Klay who can drive and score.

carey · Post #1617 » by **carey** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:50 am

bigfoot wrote:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/gambo987/status/481981024054685697[/tweet]

Dude for sure out kicked his coverage.

Post #1618 » by **Qwigglez** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:57 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Rosterbation hat on

Suns / Thunder
Morris + Tucker + Cavs 2016 pick
for
Ibaka

Why for Thunder?
C: Adams
PF: Kanter
SF: Durant
SG: Morrow
PG: Westbrook
PF: Morris
SG: Waiters
SF: Tucker
SF/PF: Jones
C/PF: Collison
C:/PF: McGary
SG: Roberson

Champions, the depth and scoring off the bench.

Why for Suns?
C: Chandler / Len
PF: Ibaka / Teletovic / Leuer
SF: Weems / Warren
SG: Knight / Goodwin
PG: Bledsoe / McNeal / Price

While i understand your reasoning I don't like not having one front court player who can get points posting up. All those front court players you have there are hustle guys (except teletovic) not offensive guys.

1Upz, I dig this trade. It would make sense for the Thunder if they are hard pressed on being in the luxury tax. I mean, that's the reason they traded James Harden right?
Sunsdeuce, I get your point. However, Ibaka has stretched his offense, he can now shoot threes (probably better than Kieff actually. He's a good pick n pop player too. Most of his buckets are heavily relied upon on others creating though or his put backs.
Still, this would be great. It might take the Heat's 2017 pick too though.

Post #1619 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:59 am

I don't think we can get Ibaka but that is definitely the sort of deal I will be pursuing in NBA 2K so thank you for the inspiration

sunsbum · Post #1620 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:05 am

I love teletovics nickname #kingslayer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bhRrOAI-0

If its not, it should be.