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Who would you take at 3 if Ayton/Doncic gone?

Bamba
9
13%
Bagley
11
16%
Jackson
9
13%
Porter
25
36%
Young
16
23%
 
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Post#21 » by No-Man » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:30 pm

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nashrambler13 wrote:Was Doncic ever listed as a PG? Maybe this time last year? I could've sworn, because ever since I set my sights on JJ, I've had Luka pencilled in as our future PG (after we get lucky for the first time in franchise history and move from like ~8th best odds to a top 2 pick, of course) and last piece of the FINAL LINEUP.

Doncic
Booker
JJ
Chriss
Bender

I guess he's listed as a G/F now though :/

Doncic is a point-forward, you'd have no hope on D with that backcourt.

Doncic is gonna be better at the 4 than anything, he is at around 6'8 right now but he was still growing this year, hopefully he gets to like 6'9 or 6'10 and has enough size to play there full-time.


So just move Booker and JJ to guard spots and Doncic to forward. If he needs to guard PFs more than wings, start one of those bigs at C, bring one off then bench and start Warren at 3. If he is that good of facilitator you still have Booker/JJ who are also decent and should get better. Probably not full time without a true PG though...just certain lineups.

Though we probably have no chance at Doncic unless we get lucky and win the lottery, which has never happened.


Who is going to defend the other teams best perimeter player? Booker? JJ? Jackson is better as a safety type that plays with range and doesnt need to lock down people, that aint his role.

That, that you describe won't fly.
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Re: 2018 Draft 

Post#22 » by noelphx » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:03 pm

It's time for some lottery luck. We strike gold and get number #1 while having a semi-decent year.
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Post#23 » by Bogyo » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:32 pm

noelphx wrote:It's time for some lottery luck. We strike gold and get number #1 while having a semi-decent year.


I m winning powerball before this happens in the NBA draft. And I ain't even playing powerball.
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Re: 2018 Draft 

Post#24 » by Jsbath » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:34 pm

Im from Spain and I saw many match of doncic and I can say that doncic never cant play pg in the nba


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Post#25 » by sunsbg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:03 pm

Jsbath wrote:Im from Spain and I saw many match of doncic and I can say that doncic never cant play pg in the nba


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Point-forward. No PG, no full-time PF as someone mentioned previously - this is not his game and I doubt it will ever be.
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Post#26 » by thamadkant » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:57 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:Mohamed Bamba is exactly the player we need to fill out our roster I feel.

Having Bamba work under the tutelage of Chandler, combined with the defensive intensity of JJ and versatility of Bender has the potential to be devastating IMO.

Porter and Doncic would be great simply for the sake that we need one more top level talent, but I have confidence that between Chriss, Warren, or another one of our young guys, and free agency, we should be able to have one more go-to scorer to complement Booker.



Ayton looks more coordinated than Bamba.... because of this, he has better potential to be an offensive finisher... Bamba's ridiculous wingspan is appealing defensively, but watching Gobert try to dribble or perform inside the paint offensively was like a train wreck... his long arms detrimental to getting the ball up for a shot... defenders just strip the ball off of him easily.
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Post#27 » by DirtyDez » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:04 am

Bamba has soft touch and appparently shot 70% FT in high school and the AAU circuit. If Deandre Jordan shot 70% he'd be a perennial top-10 player and future HOF.
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Post#28 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:10 am

DirtyDez wrote:Bamba has soft touch and appparently shot 70% FT in high school and the AAU circuit. If Deandre Jordan shot 70% he'd be a perennial top-10 player and future HOF.



He'd be Howard prime...

still two tier below golden era centers like Admiral, Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq etc... heck even Mourning and Mutombo.

Heck I rather have prime Marcus Camby than a better FT shooting Deandre Jordan... he is horrible offensively except catching lobs... defensively he is very good obviously.
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Post#29 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:59 am

Ayton would be my target... 250 pounds 7'1, 7'6 wingspan... has a jump shot and mobility... he actually looks like a young Admiral.
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Post#30 » by PackSuns » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:02 am

Give me Michael Porter Jr. Then we would have a logjam at the wing. Not a bad problem to have.
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Post#31 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:55 am

I'll see how they play against tougher competition before assessing. Hopefully the only way we are getting a top 3 pick is by getting really lucky in the lottery and making a big jump. Now obviously if we trade Bledsoe and play all our young guys we will be hard pressed to win much, since we were only able to go like 2-13 (one of those wins was against the Mavs who were trying to lose) after he got benched. We obviously should be better than that if he's gone, but who knows how much.

Our team really struggled shooting when he sat. The only player that played consistently well was Warren. Booker had 3 or 4 good games including the 70 pointer, and Chriss and Ulis each had 3-4 good ones as well, but winning didn't come easy, even with many teams kind of in the tank race.

I suspect Bledsoe won't be traded though.
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Post#32 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:55 am

I'll see how they play against tougher competition before assessing. Hopefully the only way we are getting a top 3 pick is by getting really lucky in the lottery and making a big jump. Now obviously if we trade Bledsoe and play all our young guys we will be hard pressed to win much, since we were only able to go like 2-13 (one of those wins was against the Mavs who were trying to lose) after he got benched. We obviously should be better than that if he's gone, but who knows how much.

Our team really struggled shooting when he sat. The only player that played consistently well was Warren. Booker had 3 or 4 good games including the 70 pointer, and Chriss and Ulis each had 3-4 good ones as well, but winning didn't come easy, even with many teams kind of in the tank race.

I suspect Bledsoe won't be traded though.
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Post#33 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:37 am

Could be a difficult season to get an elite pick.

There are several teams who could be gutting their roster when FA plays out - Chicago, Indiana, Atlanta, Clippers, NY

And the leftover young / bad teams - Sacramento, 76ers, Orlando, Lakers, Brooklyn.

At this stage competing for maybe 4 guys?

Of course still alot to play out but that's how I see it at the moment.
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Post#34 » by Dry_Fish » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:03 am

All I care for is the suns developing the young players...no veterans..plan for booker and ????
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Post#35 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:54 am

Suns trade out Bledsoe, Chandler and play the youth 34+ minutes each and Suns should be bottom 3..... Ayton here we come!
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Post#36 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:43 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Could be a difficult season to get an elite pick.

There are several teams who could be gutting their roster when FA plays out - Chicago, Indiana, Atlanta, Clippers, NY

And the leftover young / bad teams - Sacramento, 76ers, Orlando, Lakers, Brooklyn.

At this stage competing for maybe 4 guys?

Of course still alot to play out but that's how I see it at the moment.


It will be interesting if Philly stays healthy. They are actually favored in Vegas to make the playoffs.
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Re: 2018 Draft 

Post#37 » by nashrambler13 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:13 pm

Fischella wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Doncic is a point-forward, you'd have no hope on D with that backcourt.

Doncic is gonna be better at the 4 than anything, he is at around 6'8 right now but he was still growing this year, hopefully he gets to like 6'9 or 6'10 and has enough size to play there full-time.


So just move Booker and JJ to guard spots and Doncic to forward. If he needs to guard PFs more than wings, start one of those bigs at C, bring one off then bench and start Warren at 3. If he is that good of facilitator you still have Booker/JJ who are also decent and should get better. Probably not full time without a true PG though...just certain lineups.

Though we probably have no chance at Doncic unless we get lucky and win the lottery, which has never happened.


Who is going to defend the other teams best perimeter player? Booker? JJ? Jackson is better as a safety type that plays with range and doesnt need to lock down people, that aint his role.

That, that you describe won't fly.

Thanks for clearing that up-- I guess a while back I had seen comparisons of him to Lonzo:



and it tricked me :lol:
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Post#38 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Jul 2, 2017 5:38 am

We know McDonough loves his upside athletes with length, a few that fit the bill:

Troy Brown SG 6'7 Height / 6'11 wingspan
Hamidou Diallo SG 6'5 Height / 6'11 wingspan
Lonnie Walker SG 6'4 Height / 6'10 wingspan
Robert Williams PF 6'9 Height / 7'4 wingspan
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Post#39 » by AtheJ415 » Sun Jul 2, 2017 5:57 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:We know McDonough loves his upside athletes with length, a few that fit the bill:

Troy Brown SG 6'7 Height / 6'11 wingspan
Hamidou Diallo SG 6'5 Height / 6'11 wingspan
Lonnie Walker SG 6'4 Height / 6'10 wingspan
Robert Williams PF 6'9 Height / 7'4 wingspan


I know some teams are going to be a lot worse this year (Indiana, etc), but we really shouldn't be having to settle for any of these guys. Maybe with the Miami pick.

This team, if we play the youngsters as expected, should finish bottom 4, and thus ideally get to pick between Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba, all 4 of whom would start immediately and put us in the race for best young core. Teams like Minnesota and Philly are going to make the playoffs and so they won't be picking high anymore. I expect Bledsoe to be moved. Even if we kept Tyson--he kind of sucks, so it wouldn't hamper the tank.
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Post#40 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jul 2, 2017 6:14 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:We know McDonough loves his upside athletes with length, a few that fit the bill:

Troy Brown SG 6'7 Height / 6'11 wingspan
Hamidou Diallo SG 6'5 Height / 6'11 wingspan
Lonnie Walker SG 6'4 Height / 6'10 wingspan
Robert Williams PF 6'9 Height / 7'4 wingspan


I know some teams are going to be a lot worse this year (Indiana, etc), but we really shouldn't be having to settle for any of these guys. Maybe with the Miami pick.

This team, if we play the youngsters as expected, should finish bottom 4, and thus ideally get to pick between Doncic, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba, all 4 of whom would start immediately and put us in the race for best young core. Teams like Minnesota and Philly are going to make the playoffs and so they won't be picking high anymore. I expect Bledsoe to be moved. Even if we kept Tyson--he kind of sucks, so it wouldn't hamper the tank.


Don't underestimate our ability to finish with the 3rd or 4th worst record and end up with the 5th or 6th pick.

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