The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1

[thamadkant]

When you listen to the PROS like Tom Chambers, man.... He said you draft for offense and teach defense, not the other way around. He also said the big man isn’t dead, ask Anthony Davis. He said there aren’t any, but Ayton is one. He said James Jones thinks the same way, because he spoke with him.

I am all about Ayton. But its funny that Tom Chambers would say that. I bet Scottie Pippen would say the opposite.

Pippen is biased towards wing players, he doesnt have much opinion on bigs.

But I bet Pippen would appreciate Josh Jackson's game style for sure.

[thamadkant]

McDonough called Ayton a phenominal speciman with not a lot of holes in his game

Just the most important hole for a center.

Again, I was like you. I thought he's just a quick Valenciunas or skinny Cousins.... although he reminded me of David Robinson in regards to his size and athleticism.... and double handed dunks.

But he's explosive and he will CHALLENGE perimeter shooters shots... which is key today. Might not get the block shot but its there.




We all have to remember Ayton mentioned he sees himself KG like... hence he pushes to be "PF" in the league

Kevin Garnett was not known as a shot blocker at the rim... but he is known as a shot alterer ALL around the court... as he can challenge shots from Point Guards to Centers.


Kevin Garnett became this good.... because he was coached this way and it was part of his developmental.



With that said... If Suns drafts Ayton.... Suns should hire KG and even Hakeem to spend an off season or two with Ayton to teach him the defensive and all around game.

[Mulhollanddrive]

I'm not as bullish on Ayton as a perimeter defender most of the time I remember him getting driven by for layups, he's definately less mobile than Bender or Chriss.

[bwgood77]

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[Knicksfan20]

Knicks off Kristaps Porzingis and Emanual Mudiay for picks 1,16,31.

No less then that. Yes or no?

[JMac1]

Exactly. These clowns are not going to mess up an opportunity to have two dynamic wings and a dominant Center. All 21 and younger.

[Knicksfan20]

You should trade devin booker to the kings for the #2 and draft Ayton and Doncic since you guys can’t pick between the two.

[thamadkant]

No wonder Doncic dominates this is pretty bad basketball to watch, Jaycee Carroll who played at Utah State is one of the best players on the floor. Again, Doncic is going to be a good NBA player dont get me wrong, but the competition he is playing against is pretty bad. We can talk about Euro league being the 2nd best in the world but its a long long ways from the NBA.

Ayton dominated against inferior league college midgets.

But he was double teamed and tripled teamed...

and to be honest his own team mates "contained" him the most.... Ristic pretty much was a wall inside the paint for Ayton.
His guards looked for him a lot... but also missed him a lot.

Ayton is good at freeing himself for a good position I've noticed... very old school Great Era Center mentality. Its like watching David Robinson in the mid 90s...

[darealjuice]

You should trade devin booker to the kings for the #2 and draft Ayton and Doncic since you guys can’t pick between the two.

Effectively trading Booker for Doncic would be a quick way to get the Suns fan base to raze Talking Stick to the ground lol

[bwgood77]

Knicks off Kristaps Porzingis and Emanual Mudiay for picks 1,16,31.

No less then that. Yes or no?

No, they wouldn't trade #1 for him.

[thamadkant]

Knicks off Kristaps Porzingis and Emanual Mudiay for picks 1,16,31.

No less then that. Yes or no?

Add Pick 9 and the conversation might go further along.

[bwgood77]

No wonder Doncic dominates this is pretty bad basketball to watch, Jaycee Carroll who played at Utah State is one of the best players on the floor. Again, Doncic is going to be a good NBA player dont get me wrong, but the competition he is playing against is pretty bad. We can talk about Euro league being the 2nd best in the world but its a long long ways from the NBA.

Ayton dominated against inferior league college midgets.

But he was double teamed and tripled teamed...

and to be honest his own team mates "contained" him the most.... Ristic pretty much was a wall inside the paint for Ayton.
His guards looked for him a lot... but also missed him a lot.

Ayton is good at freeing himself for a good position I've noticed... very old school Great Era Center mentality. Its like watching David Robinson in the mid 90s...

Ayton won't have too many problems scoring and rebounding. It's the other side that needs the work, particularly against the much better competition.

[MrMiyagi]

You should trade devin booker to the kings for the #2 and draft Ayton and Doncic since you guys can’t pick between the two.

You guys are looking to dump Porzingis because he took an arrow to the knee.

[Knicksfan20]

Knicks off Kristaps Porzingis and Emanual Mudiay for picks 1,16,31.

No less then that. Yes or no?

Add Pick 9 and the conversation might go further along.

Na. Whoever is taken #1 won’t be better then KP imo. Only worth trading if we can get more then one pick.

Thanks for the response

[MrMiyagi]

No wonder Doncic dominates this is pretty bad basketball to watch, Jaycee Carroll who played at Utah State is one of the best players on the floor. Again, Doncic is going to be a good NBA player dont get me wrong, but the competition he is playing against is pretty bad. We can talk about Euro league being the 2nd best in the world but its a long long ways from the NBA.

Ayton dominated against inferior league college midgets.

But he was double teamed and tripled teamed...

and to be honest his own team mates "contained" him the most.... Ristic pretty much was a wall inside the paint for Ayton.
His guards looked for him a lot... but also missed him a lot.

Ayton is good at freeing himself for a good position I've noticed... very old school Great Era Center mentality. Its like watching David Robinson in the mid 90s...

If Ayton had played with TJ McConnell, he would be the undisputed #1 prospect.

[Knicksfan20]

You should trade devin booker to the kings for the #2 and draft Ayton and Doncic since you guys can’t pick between the two.

You guys are looking to dump Porzingis because he took an arrow to the knee.

I don’t want to trade him. But I think there are a lot of good prospects in this draft so I’m ok with resetting with fresh new management.

KP is a franchise talent. He’s going to come back a beast.

[thamadkant]

I think Michael Porter will add difficulties to Suns selection process as we closer to the draft night.

McD's comments about "big" men who can dribble and create is very applicable to MPJ as well... he's 6'11, albeit average wingspan... but very good to elite jump shot and good to very good 3pt potential..... and ATHLETIC.


Mini-Durant. Can play SF and PF.... and even Center as he can definitely out-maneuver other team's centers like Capela and Gobert.... which will force teams to put Small Forwards on him.... or Durant.

[MrMiyagi]

You should trade devin booker to the kings for the #2 and draft Ayton and Doncic since you guys can’t pick between the two.

You guys are looking to dump Porzingis because he took an arrow to the knee.

I don’t want to trade him. But I think there are a lot of good prospects in this draft so I’m ok with resetting with fresh new management.

KP is a franchise talent. He’s going to come back a beast.

Then keep him.

[gaspar]

Knicks off Kristaps Porzingis and Emanual Mudiay for picks 1,16,31.

No less then that. Yes or no?

You should trade devin booker to the kings for the #2 and draft Ayton and Doncic since you guys can’t pick between the two.

GTFO x 2

[thamadkant]

McD mentioning they're open to trading Pick 1 for a veteran All-Star is obviously a wink wink indication to Spurs and Pelicans.

Kawhi and Davis.

I would do that.

Because it means, other Star FAs would come over too.



Its basically... NOW vs FUTURE.

McD is under pressure to put a good team soon.