2025 Draft & College Hoops

[BurningHeart]

Who has the strongest heart, character, motor and work ethic?

Take the most talented guy that exhibits those qualities the most. Always.

This team needs a complete enema. Start by getting guys who give a **** about something more than themselves.

These traits you're looking at in the Top 10 are Colin Murray Boyles and maybe Maluach. And at 29, EASILY you target:

1- Adou Thiero.
2- Drake Powell.
3- Johnni Broome.

I'll take this "Murray Boyles" if he chooses just ONE last name to go by haha.

Well, Gilgeous-Alexander seems to be working out.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[RaisingArizona]

oh man I want Queen

[lilfishi22]

Zimmerman said he had some Boogie in him and thought that was interesting

I mean....Cousins pre-draft was already 6'11, 290lbs with a 7'6 wingspan while putting up 23/15/3blks in 23.5mpg. CMB is just under 6'8 240lbs and put up respectable 20/10 in 30mpg. I'm not sure what Zimmerman was looking at.

I am pretty sure he was talking about Derik Queen, not Collin Murray-Boyles.

COmpletely right. I got things mixed up.

Queen - Nice offensive package but defensively, I just don't think he'll get there at the NBA level and that's a real worry for me.
CMB - Don't like his size at all and as mentioned previously, I think he's done great at the college level but I do think the size will be a much bigger obstacle for him to overcome at the NBA level.

[lilfishi22]

The thing about Queen is that he's not elite athletically ( 28 inch vertical), not fast or fluid laterally (in combine testing) with and only 6'9 with a 7 ft wingspan. He's also relatively slow footed with a 3.27 shuttle time and 3.25 sprint time while also only shooting around 20% from three.

His defense and lateral mobility, fluidity and switchability overall are going to be huge concerns. And he'll probably land outside of the top 10 of the lottery more in the 13- 17 range possibly. Not at all a prospect that I'd consider in the top 14.

Queen is 6’9 ¼ barefoot, 247.8 lbs with a 7’0 ½" wingspan and 9’1 ½" standing reach.

That's enough size for any PF/C. He is 6'10 (some would even say 6'11) by NBA standards and his wingspan/standing reach are fine. Not great but enough.

Yeah, he is an offensive minded player but he doesn't look a potential liability on defense to me.

I would draft him at #10 over more limited players (3&D) like Carter Bryant.

Another positive about Queen is his production for a freshman. You just need to compare his numbers with Bryant to understand that Queen's floor is already much higher than Bryant who couldn't average 20 minutes per game.

There are concerns about Queen's motor which I am worried about. He's just doesn't have the overwhelming size and athletic gifts to offset a worrying motor. Even when you have overwhelming size and athletic gifts, like DA, a questionable motor is still a problem

[lilfishi22]

Brian Kalbrosky:

Some intel about the Suns, who now own the No. 10 overall pick, after the Kevin Durant trade:

Cedric Coward worked out with Phoenix during the pre-draft process.

French PG Nolan Traroré also headlined a PHX workout earlier today.

Was watching some scouting videos on Coward and I really love what he brings. #10 does feel a bit high for him and ironically, NBAdraft has JJ as his comp lol

[lilfishi22]

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He's a big time value pick outside of the lottery. At #10 he's a stretch imo

[RaisingArizona]

Brian Kalbrosky:

Some intel about the Suns, who now own the No. 10 overall pick, after the Kevin Durant trade:

Cedric Coward worked out with Phoenix during the pre-draft process.

French PG Nolan Traroré also headlined a PHX workout earlier today.

Was watching some scouting videos on Coward and I really love what he brings. #10 does feel a bit high for him and ironically, NBAdraft has JJ as his comp lol

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I'm surprised to find that I'm actually in favor of Danny wolf. Love his motor and ball handling. But I like several prospects in our range so moving down would be great.

[NavLDO]

No picks in the 1st with player positions that start with "S"...only postions that start with "P"...or "C"...

[NotTraxxe]

Trade back for Wolf is what someone told me is being talked about but dumping Beal.

Hope not. I think it is not true but if it turns out just want it here for posterity sake!

[thamadkant]

So Suns planning to trade from 10 to 12 (Bulls) for Bulls to trade Ball/Vucevic for Beal???

If it's just 2 spots.... not bad, but anything more would be stupid.

[lilfishi22]

So Suns planning to trade from 10 to 12 (Bulls) for Bulls to trade Ball/Vucevic for Beal???

If it's just 2 spots.... not bad, but anything more would be stupid.

I'd do it. Not a huge drop

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd love Cam Jones tomorrow but would probably require a trade up.