NavLDO wrote:It was cute the first time you did it, now it just shows your maturity level...
Ok, you're right. I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry. It was unnecessary and unhelpful.
The truth is, you make some good points. In particular...
- It's not just player vs player...it's also about contracts. Both length & amount.
- Injury concerns
- Telly is sorta similar to Gallo, so what's the point?
- With all the question marks here, why give up a solid asset like Markieff (again factoring in contract length & amount)??
I think the sum total of that case is legit. I don't actually think this proposed trade will happen...perhaps because of these types of reasons...or perhaps from Denver's side.
I still wanna make this trade, but I recognize why smart people with good basketball sense would disagree with me.
These are my biggest issues with your arguments:
- "I, and others, would rather have Mirza than Gallinari on this team." That was never an either/or discussion. That's like GS fans having a big debate between Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and Harrison Barnes. In the modern NBA, I want as many wing types who play defense and shoot threes as possible. I want both Mirza and Gallo. One to start and one to come off the bench...and they'd almost certainly play together sometimes. You want AT LEAST a couple of these types of players on the court at all times.
- Basing such a huge part of your case on a couple of playoff series. The sample size is just too small. For Gallo, you're talking about just two series, two teams, both when he was U23. I just don't think you can conclude much of anything from that. I mean Michael Jordan was hardly...Michael Jordan...when his team got bounced quickly in his first three playoff series U23. You just can't take that tiny sample and then extrapolate to: this is who Gallo is forever gonna be in the playoffs. And on the flip-side, Telly's playing an extremely limited reserve role in the playoffs for the Nets: he played a grand total of 16 minutes in 6 games this past season's playoffs.
- Outright rejection of APM/RAPM numbers. I don't think they're the words of Allah or anything, but you gotta recognize that this is an important part of the picture we can draw for a player. It gives us an (admittedly imperfect) baseline for the value of the player. It's absolutely fine to question them and argue against a particular value -- and there are valid reasons for doing so -- but that's not the same thing as just flat-out declaring them useless. In particular, box scores stats tell us basically nothing about defense. So if you're gonna just reject a DRAPM value, that case has to have some serious homework behind it: in-depth lineup analysis, advanced stats about opponents' %s, video analysis, etc.
Ok, now in terms of my fundamental argument in favor of the trade, the most complete explanation I have is what I wrote
here. The argument, in my opinion, is not Gallo vs Telly, but Gallo vs Markieff.
Basically my argument boils down to playing style, rather than the details in TS% and whatnot. It's a philosophical understanding of how the game has changed. With Chandler here, I no longer think Markieff fits. The Bled/Markieff/Chandler/Len core is just
perfect for keeping us on the mediocrity treadmill. Gallo's a risk in several ways. But he makes us intriguing as hell. He's a historically solid 3&D guy...who also has a freakish offensive skill set.
IF he stays healthy, and
IF he sticks around for longer than a year, and
IF he finds appropriate space in our system to use his impressive array of skills...well then we're all of a sudden freakin' scary. And I just can't imagine us becoming scary with the Bled/Markieff/Chandler/Len core.
Too many
ifs? Perhaps. But I think we all know what happens if we stay the course.
Nothing.
